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THREE HUNDRED passenger planes were scheduled to fly over Ukraine on day...(Short Title)
DailyMail.co.uk ^ | July 18, 2014 | Sarah Gordon, Carol Driver

Posted on 07/18/2014 3:53:54 AM PDT by Biggirl

Nearly 300 passenger planes were scheduled to fly over the Ukraine yesterday. Some 290 commercial flights continued operating over the war zone, with just 10 fewer aircraft entering Ukrainian airspace than normal, according to European air traffic control centre Eurocontrol.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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"THREE HUNDRED passenger planes were scheduled to fly over Ukraine on day MH17 was shot down... despite warnings to airlines about "serious risks to safety"

1 posted on 07/18/2014 3:53:54 AM PDT by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl
The plane shot down was above the restricted altitude and had traversed almost the entire west to east span of Ukraine ... THEN someone decided to shoot it down.

To me ... suspicious ... zero is Malaysian, and runniung faster away from getting caught ... these days

2 posted on 07/18/2014 3:57:58 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Biggirl

Hindsight is 20/20 but this was really the first thought I had when hearing the news...’Why are they flying over a (potential) war zone?’


3 posted on 07/18/2014 3:58:12 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: Biggirl
'It’s up to each individual nation, each individual airline how much risk they are going to accept.'

And in the case of Malaysia, they have no reason to worry about air safety. I guess it's official now: Malaysian Airlines is run by cretins. Book your tickets today!

4 posted on 07/18/2014 4:01:08 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Biggirl

Short title ‘Russian Roulette’


5 posted on 07/18/2014 4:19:20 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: knarf

Obama grew up in Indonesia, not Malaysia. Entirely different country. Malaysia was a former British colony, and has a good size Chinese minority that lives in relative peace with the Muslim majority. Indonesia, not so much.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 4:20:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: relictele

Why? It is pretty simple, per the article:

Veteran Australian war correspondent Michael Ware said: ‘This is a sad reality of where the commercial imperative collides with war. It’s still economically attractive to airlines to continue flying over war zones. It’s simply a matter of cost and reducing fuel. Alas that is what happened here.’


7 posted on 07/18/2014 4:21:14 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: samtheman

My guess is, although Malaysia Airlines is a state-owned airline, and it’s been operating in the red for the past 3yrs, it’s going to disappear and its assets and routes be sold and divided-up between smaller carriers like Air Asia and others in the region. The planes must be empty by now, after the 370 and 17 incidents.


8 posted on 07/18/2014 4:38:47 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: Biggirl

There is a NO FLY ZONE to the southeast over Crimea forcing planes to fly north of there.

So if planes are going to go east and west they have to fly over eastern Ukraine and those mindless thugs in Donetsk.

So all this blabber about it being the pilot’s fault for flying over “a War Zone” is hogwash.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 4:43:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Problem is that there is NO ENFORCEMENT of such “no go” zones.


10 posted on 07/18/2014 4:47:51 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

So to whatever degree the airline and/or the crew were unwise to use that route they surely weren’t alone.


11 posted on 07/18/2014 4:48:31 AM PDT by SayNoToDems (Will the dancing Hitlers please wait in the wings? We're only seeing singing Hitlers.)
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To: carriage_hill

Yep, look for Malaysia Airlines to go the way of Pam Am.


12 posted on 07/18/2014 4:48:37 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

It wasn’t not a NO GO zone — the zone south of there is the NO GO zone. Check the map —


13 posted on 07/18/2014 4:50:25 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Get me a map please. Thank-you!

Because it is a war zone, eastern Ukraine, you do have to consider it a no-go zone.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 4:55:49 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Did you miss what you posted:

“Nearly 300 passenger planes were scheduled to fly over the Ukraine yesterday.”

Are you saying that 300 pilots couldn’t read a map???


15 posted on 07/18/2014 5:02:35 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

.....Or rather one did not?


16 posted on 07/18/2014 5:12:12 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl
From zerohedge...

Perhaps the best visualization of what the issue is, comes from Vagelis Karmiros who has collated all the recent MH-17 flight paths as tracked by Flightaware and shows that while all ten most recent paths pass safely well south of the Donetsk region, and cross the zone above the Sea of Azov, it was only today's tragic flight that passed straight overhead Donetsk.


17 posted on 07/18/2014 5:51:17 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

Thank-you! This is what I wanted to see.


18 posted on 07/18/2014 5:54:07 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Is flight MH17 to Obama what the RMS Lusitania was to Woodorw Wilson?

What We Can Learn From Woodrow Wilson’s Great Blunder The Case for Staying Out of Other People’s Wars

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/04/jim-powell/what-we-can-learn-from-woodrow-wilsons-greatblunder-the-case-for-staying-out-of-other-peoples-wars/


19 posted on 07/18/2014 6:31:32 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Yep, you got it.

But I am afraid we could be brought it because of American weakness.


20 posted on 07/18/2014 6:33:56 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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