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Highway to the danger zone? Non-pilot given command of Air Force in Pacific
Washington Times ^ | 07/17/2014 | Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 07/18/2014 6:54:32 AM PDT by DFG

The White House has picked the first female general to head the Air Force in the Pacific, which will make her the first non-pilot to command air power in such a large theater of operation.

The Pentagon announced this week that Air ForceLt. Gen. Lori J. Robinson has been nominated for promotion to four-star general and as commander of Pacific Air Forces, the Air Force component of U.S. Pacific Command. It is a major combatant command whose air, ground and naval forces have broad responsibility for security in the Asia-Pacific region. Her nomination was sent to the Senate for confirmation.

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KEYWORDS: airforce; communism; depowermilitary; diversity; pacific; robinson
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1 posted on 07/18/2014 6:54:32 AM PDT by DFG
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To: DFG

Yabut, is she a member of the mile high club (Happy Division)?


2 posted on 07/18/2014 6:57:07 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DFG

..... and she was nominated for a promotion amid a drive for more diversity in the Pentagon.

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I don’t know why they’re screwing around with this ..... just go ahead and put The Mooch in charge. [/s]


3 posted on 07/18/2014 6:57:15 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: DFG

Yeah, well, the whole nation elected a person who was not qualified. There is nothing here. Move on.


4 posted on 07/18/2014 6:59:46 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: DFG

First top generals are purged from the military. Now this.
SOMEONE HELP!!!

http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/


5 posted on 07/18/2014 7:02:11 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: DFG

What’s wrong with that?

Affirmative Action worked for Obama, why not for her?

You can see just how well it worked out.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 7:04:52 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: DH

Equal-opportunity, affirmative action appointment. Will some die because of this?


7 posted on 07/18/2014 7:08:09 AM PDT by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: ogen hal

Sure isn’t the PACAF I served in.


8 posted on 07/18/2014 7:10:40 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Close the border!!!)
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To: DFG

It is all part of the plan by the VRWC to gut the effectiveness of the forces of Mordor on the Potomac in the runup to the coming revolution.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 7:11:00 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: DFG

Good for her.

Bad for America.


10 posted on 07/18/2014 7:14:08 AM PDT by moovova
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To: DFG

Just put an accountant or lawyer in charge, they call the shots anyway.


11 posted on 07/18/2014 7:14:56 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ogen hal

guess who is REALLY screwed?-

our former allies-

Japan- say goodbye to your islands
korea- Kim will now do MORE selective attacks
phillipines- same as Japan, loss of territory

and finally— Taiwan- hold on to your Hats-
No American forces will be coming to help you!


12 posted on 07/18/2014 7:15:24 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: DFG

Progressives believe the military is just college with guns and uniforms.


13 posted on 07/18/2014 7:15:44 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: DFG

PC is going to get us all killed.
Women should not be cops nor firemen and certainly not Air Force Generals - especially if they never flew nor fought in the air!

Stupidest appointment ever.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 7:17:24 AM PDT by Fear The People (When the government fears the people, you have LIBERTY.)
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To: Qiviut

its about time they fixed the Air Force. For too long its been two white and two male. (sic)

The Sec AF is Female and is a gender loyal type. Expect more. PS they hate christians too.

As an AF Vet its hard to admit all this.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 7:18:12 AM PDT by Breto (Stranger in a strange land... where did America go?)
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To: DFG

I don’t know what all the stink is about. It is a government job. Lacking the qualifications a reasonable minded person would expect is a resume enhancer. And no, I am not joking.


16 posted on 07/18/2014 7:18:15 AM PDT by Yogafist
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To: DFG
Meanwhile, In Moscow.....


17 posted on 07/18/2014 7:20:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Breto

I have a couple of relatives who were in the AF - love those guys & thank you for your service!


18 posted on 07/18/2014 7:25:33 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: DFG

qualifications don’t matter anymore - you can be POTUS whose only qualification is skin color, and next up a POTUS because of gender. Hey...it’s all good! /s


19 posted on 07/18/2014 7:26:00 AM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: mj1234

And how would any of that change under this president regardless of who commanded the Pacific Air Forces?


20 posted on 07/18/2014 7:29:15 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: bigbob

As a CPA I resent that comment. I have hands on experience running business. Not all CPA’s are so cost conscious as to destroy what works. The objective is to fix what is broken.

Any business is only as good as the employees and you reward productivity by empowering the employees. Keep out of the way of production and eliminate bureaucracy. You monitor what is going on but minimize your presence and interference.

I always told my employees u will fire you quicker for not making a decision than making one. When you do not make one in essence you did and most times the wrong one.

You can teach employees how to make the decisions you want if you will take the time. Lastly do not tell me how to do the accounting and I will nor tell you how to rebuild the engine in my car. I will listen to your reccomendations and rey ans have the job done right the first time because that is always the cheapest way to do any job.


21 posted on 07/18/2014 7:30:05 AM PDT by pcpa
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To: Fear The People

Imagine you’re the base commander somewhere when this twofer (pardon me, threefer, she’s not a pilot) & her retinue show up demanding VIP treatment.

Oh, and they’ll be conducting an EO investigation.


22 posted on 07/18/2014 7:32:43 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: ogen hal
Will some die because of this?

"I certainly hope so!"

23 posted on 07/18/2014 7:35:35 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: pcpa

“Lastly do not tell me how to do the accounting and I will nor tell you how to rebuild the engine in my car. I will listen to your reccomendations and rey ans have the job done right”

CPAs I have dealt with do know how to spell.

;^)


24 posted on 07/18/2014 7:35:54 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: DFG
This is like putting a coach who never played football but instead ran the pop stand in charge of training and leading a football team.

Sure, she has some skills. But will they be the right ones with the proper perspectives when the SHTF and the life and death decisions of real combat are critical? I seriously doubt it.

Actual flying experience is important but actually running operational flying operations at all levels is just more important - and that is almost never done by somebody who is not a trained and experienced aircrew member. She apparently has none of those skills.

However, she is a female, so I suppose in today's military that more than makes up for her stark deficiencies in critical combat areas. It would be even better is she is a lesbian or transgendered person, right?

There are good reasons pilots (and occasionally very talented navigators) are generally chosen to the top command positions in the Air Force, and it is not just because of their dashing good looks!

25 posted on 07/18/2014 7:47:25 AM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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To: Gritty

quota commander?


26 posted on 07/18/2014 7:48:30 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: DFG

Whaddayaexpect? Got a community organizer for a “president” why not a non-pilot running an Air Force. Is she black and gay too, it wouldn’t surprise me...those are the new qualifications for leadership in the USA. Experience, leadership and competence are no longer elements of the selection/appointment process.


27 posted on 07/18/2014 7:48:54 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DFG
I don't know why everybody is getting so upset. Most pictures of Ike when he was Operation Overlord commander show him with just a few service ribbons. These lady wears like 25 ribbons. So I conclude she is, if anything, over-qualified.
28 posted on 07/18/2014 7:54:50 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: DFG

Reminds me of this old song from Gilbert and Sullivan.

Sir Joseph.
When I was a lad I served a term
As office boy to an Attorney’s firm.
I cleaned the windows and I swept the floor,
And I polished up the handle of the big front door.

Chorus.
He polished up the handle of the big front door.

Sir Joseph.
I polished up that handle so carefullee
That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Chorus.
He polished up that handle so carefullee,
That now he is the ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Sir Joseph.
As office boy I made such a mark
That they gave me the post of a junior clerk.
I served the writs with a smile so bland,
And I copied all the letters in a big round hand.
Chorus.
He copied all the letters in a big round hand.

Sir Joseph.
I copied all the letters in a hand so free,
That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Chorus.
He copied all the letters in a hand so free,
That now he is the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Sir Joseph.
In serving writs I made such a name
That an articled clerk I soon became;
I wore clean collars and a brand-new suit
For the pass examination at the Institute.

Chorus.
For the pass examination at the Institute.

Sir Joseph.
That pass examination did so well for me,
That now I am the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Chorus.
That pass examination did so well for he,
That now he is the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Sir Joseph.
Of legal knowledge I acquired such a grip
That they took me into the partnership.
And that junior partnership, I ween,
Was the only ship that I ever had seen.

Chorus.
Was the only ship that he ever had seen.

Sir Joseph.
But that kind of ship so suited me,
That now I am the ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Chorus.
But that kind of ship so suited he,
That now he is the ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Sir Joseph.
I grew so rich that I was sent
By a pocket borough into Parliament.
I always voted at my party’s call,
And I never thought of thinking for myself at all.

Chorus.
He never thought of thinking for himself at all.

Sir Joseph.
I thought so little, they rewarded me
By making me the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Chorus.
He thought so little, they rewarded he
By making him the Ruler of the Queen’s Navee!

Sir Joseph.
Now landsmen all, whoever you may be,
If you want to rise to the top of the tree,
If your soul isn’t fettered to an office stool,
Be careful to be guided by this golden rule.

Chorus.
Be careful to be guided by this golden rule.

Sir Joseph.
Stick close to your desks and never go to sea,
And you all may be rulers of the Queen’s Navee!


29 posted on 07/18/2014 7:57:05 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: DFG

For the record, Robinson is married to retired USAF Major General David A. Robinson. Robinson’s step daughter, United States Air Force Reserve (USAFR) Second Lieutenant Taryn Ashley (b.February 1, 1983) was critically injured, and her civilian flight instructor was killed, when their plane impacted terrain on September 21, 2005. Taryn later succumbed to her injuries and died on January 10, 2006. Lt. Robinson was enrolled in a government undergraduate pilot training (UPT) introductory flight program, and this was her second flight.


30 posted on 07/18/2014 8:04:45 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: DFG

If the woman was former “back seater,” some type of aircrew, this would be fine (apples to me. I served OK at Naval Air Facility, Detroit during the Gulf War).


31 posted on 07/18/2014 8:07:14 AM PDT by Ace's Dad (Proud grandpa of a newly born "Brit Chick" named Poppy Loucks!)
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To: Leaning Right
I don't know why everybody is getting so upset. Most pictures of Ike when he was Operation Overlord commander show him with just a few service ribbons. These lady wears like 25 ribbons. So I conclude she is, if anything, over-qualified.

Because as everyone knows there has never once in all of recorded history been a case where a woman was placed in a position due to her competence and qualifications.

32 posted on 07/18/2014 8:07:31 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

In the name of Diversity, what’s next? Nominating a Transvestite to command the Marines??


33 posted on 07/18/2014 8:09:40 AM PDT by Herodes
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To: DH

Affirmative Action worked for Obama, why not for her?

so now Obama owns her and she will do what ever Obama wants


34 posted on 07/18/2014 8:10:20 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: stars & stripes forever

The difference is that this is really happening and it’s not good. The purge is a myth started by idiots and perpetuated by ignorant dolts with internet connections.


35 posted on 07/18/2014 8:13:35 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Herodes
In the name of Diversity, what’s next? Nominating a Transvestite to command the Marines??

Probably. Everyone knows that women can't get ahead on talent, right? They have to have diversity or something.

36 posted on 07/18/2014 8:13:50 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
My comment was more ribbon-related than gender-related.

As far as a woman's competence goes, one of the most interesting biographies I ever read was that of Adm Grace Hopper.

37 posted on 07/18/2014 8:21:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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38 posted on 07/18/2014 8:22:10 AM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Leaning Right

How many of those ribbons are gedunk ribbons? Holly Graf (the female Captain Bligh) had a lot of those.


39 posted on 07/18/2014 8:33:06 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Leaning Right

And my comment was made with tongue firmly planted in cheek, and after witnessing dozens of these kinds of threads.


40 posted on 07/18/2014 8:34:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Fred Hayek
There is a danger of taking pics with medals. Service members will
recognize the fakes or props against her record.

No idea how this will pan out but it's PC BS at the very least.

41 posted on 07/18/2014 8:38:21 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

If that’s her official DoD photo, then she has made darn sure that every decoration she is wearing is backed up by documentation in her personnel file: citations, orders, ORB, etc.

Remember Adm. Jeremy Boorda? He was driven to suicide over accusations that a single campaign star may have been unearned.


42 posted on 07/18/2014 8:47:32 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970
....and put together coherent thoughts in sentences...

What the hell is THAT jibberish?

43 posted on 07/18/2014 8:51:25 AM PDT by Fedupwithit (If you never stop giving, they will never stop taking...)
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To: Rio

If she’s not pilot, what are the wings for?

I was an Army guy. If it wasn’t a CIB, it was all just stuff.


44 posted on 07/18/2014 9:00:52 AM PDT by Makana ("Nothing can bring you peace but yourself; nothing, but the triumph of principles." -Emerson)
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To: DFG

Just think if George Washington ran the military like this. Don’t find the bestpeople. Find the gay, the black, the lesbian, the ttansgender and put them in charge so the redcoats will be so impressed with our diversity they will surrender.


45 posted on 07/18/2014 9:08:57 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: DFG

Checked out her bio
She’s had a distinguished career
Not the first non-rated 4 Star to hold high command, just the first woman
She is married
Her stepdaughter died in pilot training
Running PACAF is mostly logistics management and she has the qualifications


46 posted on 07/18/2014 9:11:16 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

What’s that old saying? Good generals understand strategy and tactics; great generals understand logistics ...

I also recall that MacArthur referred to Eisehower as the best clerk he’d ever had.


47 posted on 07/18/2014 9:17:39 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Ace's Dad

she was an air combat controller, or weapons controller, or whatever is the present term
ie, probably AWACS mission (not flight) crew while she was at Tinker
that is the badge on her uniform


48 posted on 07/18/2014 9:20:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Gritty

“Sure, she has some skills. But will they be the right ones with the proper perspectives when the SHTF and the life and death decisions of real combat are critical? I seriously doubt it.”

uh, you do know what a weapons controller, or what they call air combat controller, does, right? Gets the fighters in range of the target, IDs it, and authorizes them to engage. I’d say that is life-and-death combat decision making


49 posted on 07/18/2014 9:23:06 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Makana

not wings, Air Combat (weapons) controller badge
the ones I knew were AWACS crewmembers and logged many hours of flight and combat time, just not in the cockpit


50 posted on 07/18/2014 9:26:36 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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