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How Obama is Turning Liberalism Into an Instrument of Coercion
rasmussenreports.com ^ | 7/18/14 | Michael Barone

Posted on 07/18/2014 8:10:48 AM PDT by cotton1706

Liberals just aren't very liberal these days. The word "liberal" comes from the Latin word meaning freedom, and in the 19th century, liberals in this country and abroad stood for free speech, free exercise of religion, free markets, free trade -- for minimal state interference in people's lives.

In the 20th-century, New Dealers revised this definition by arguing that people had a right not only to free speech and freedom of religion but also, as Franklin Roosevelt said in his 1941 Four Freedoms speech, freedom from fear and from want.

Freedom from want meant, for Roosevelt, government provision of jobs, housing, health care and food. And so government would have to be much larger, more expensive and more intrusive than ever before.

That's what liberalism has come to mean in America (in Europe it still has the old meaning), and much of the Obama Democrats' agenda are logical outgrowths -- Obamacare, the vast expansion of food stamps, attempted assistance to underwater homeowners.

But in some respects the Obama Democrats want to go further -- and are complaining that they're having a hard time getting there. Their form of liberalism is in danger of standing for something like the very opposite of freedom, for government coercion of those who refuse to behave the way they'd like.

Example one is the constitutional amendment, sponsored by 43 of the 55 Democratic U.S. senators, which would cut back on the First Amendment and authorize Congress and state legislatures to restrict political speech.

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1 posted on 07/18/2014 8:10:48 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Tell me when Modern Liberalism hasn’t been an Instrument of Coercion. All ObaMao is doing is peeling off the mask.


2 posted on 07/18/2014 8:13:28 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cotton1706

Great title to the article.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 8:15:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Vigilanteman

I was going to post that he is only REVEALING it to be so.


4 posted on 07/18/2014 8:16:01 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: cotton1706

Progressive = Repressive


5 posted on 07/18/2014 8:16:13 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Vigilanteman

True, and good distinction by indicating Modern Liberalism — a form of Leftism with fewer calories.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 8:17:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Yes, there is strong totalitarian streak in liberalism.

We can think of examples. Such as coercion or lawsuits used against people who have said the “N” word, people who believe marriage is a man and a woman who happen to run a fast food company, beauty pageant contestants who say they believe marriage is a man and a woman, lawsuits to compel people to render services to homosexual weddings against their beliefs, campaigns against those who don’t buy into global warming, campaigns against companies which don’t buy into abortifacient “birth control” being provided in company health plans, etc.

I cannot think of any examples of conservative coercion to compel compliance with conservative views. If anybody has examples of that coming from the conservative side, I would like to be fair and balanced.


7 posted on 07/18/2014 8:18:28 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: cotton1706

“Liberals” never WERE liberal!

The fascists of the 30’s, known as “progressives” of the time, became associated with the Nazis, because they sympathized with them.

They changed their label to “liberals” in order to escape that association. Then they became associated with communists, and now want to be called “progressives” again.

The funny thing is, the “progressives” today are, once again, more fascist than they are communist.


8 posted on 07/18/2014 8:18:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cotton1706

There is nothing liberal about liberalism and nothing progressive about progressivism.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 8:18:38 AM PDT by all the best
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To: cotton1706

Modern liberals have stolen the word “liberal” from the classical liberals. Homosexuals have stolen the word “gay” from the happy people. Hippies are trying to steal the word “love” from the Christians. The Left’s word-stealing agenda is furthered by the cynical losers who have nothing better to do than update dictionaries.


10 posted on 07/18/2014 8:19:53 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Also, anarcho-syndicalists and environmentalists have stolen the word “progressive” from people in the science and technology industries.


11 posted on 07/18/2014 8:22:06 AM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: cotton1706
I can't get my mouth to call the Left "liberals" any more because it's part of the whole lie.

I call them the Left, Socialists, Collectivists, Fabian Progressives, Marxist, and sometimes tyrants.

Whatever else the Left is, it is certainly not "liberal" - lovers of freedom.

12 posted on 07/18/2014 8:22:31 AM PDT by PapaNew (Freedom always wins the debate in the forum of ideas)
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To: Objective Scrutator

WRT the word “love”, the Greek language had it right, better than English.

We have one word that means the same whether you mean
you “love” chocolate,
you “love” your children,
or you “love” your spouse.

The left, in accordance with their founding (Gen 3), have conflated and twisted the word so that when they use the context of

agape love - wanting the absolute best for someone
to justify
eros love - fleshly desire,

they give more weight and credence to the latter.


13 posted on 07/18/2014 8:35:08 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PapaNew

Oh, they’ll tell you they’re for “freedom”. I think it was FDR that redefined “freedom” from “not being interfered with” to “having everything provided for you”.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 8:36:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cotton1706

Modern “liberalism”, now often called “progressivism” was NEVER “liberal” as classically defined. In fact what is now called “liberalism” has ALWAYS been coercive in nature.

Classical liberal philosophy is now more seen in what is called “libertarian”.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 8:41:47 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Objective Scrutator

It’s Marxist-Leninist corruption of the language.


16 posted on 07/18/2014 8:46:39 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Vigilanteman

Amen! “Tell me when Modern Liberalism hasn’t been an Instrument of Coercion. All ObaMao is doing is peeling off the mask.”

How to tell a Republican from a left wing progressive DemocRat:

If a Republican doesn’t like guns, he doesn’t buy one. If a Democrat doesn’t like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

Republican is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat. If a Democrat is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a Republican is homosexual, he quietly leads his life. If a Democrat is ahomosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a Republican is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. If a Democrat is down-and-out he wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a Republican doesn’t like a talk show host, he switches channels. A Democrat demands that those they don’t like be shut down.

If a Republican is a non-believer, he doesn’t go to church. A Democrat non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

If a Republican decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. If a Democrat decides he needs health care, he demands that
the rest of us pay for his health care.

If a Republican reads this, he’ll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.

A Democrat will delete it because he’s “offended”.


17 posted on 07/18/2014 8:54:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, = new democrat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: Vigilanteman
Tell me when Modern Liberalism hasn't’t been an Instrument of Coercion. All ObaMao is doing is peeling off the mask.

Thank you. You saved me from stating what should be but apparently isn't both obvious and common knowledge. Liberalism is just the leading edge of a path that inevitably leads to tyranny.

18 posted on 07/18/2014 8:59:48 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Remember Mississippi)
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To: Grampa Dave

So true! That can’t be posted often enough.


19 posted on 07/18/2014 9:02:38 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: MrB

No matter which label they choose, they are all control freaks.


20 posted on 07/18/2014 9:09:26 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: all the best
Paraphrasing from Dinesh D'Souza in his latest book:

"If termites could speak, they would call what they do 'progressive'".

21 posted on 07/18/2014 10:31:47 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: bassmaner

Progressive means more and more. More control, more power, more spending, more taxes. I have more respect for communists who announce their end goal right up front. Progressives are too cowardly or dishonest, or too smart, for that. This is what makes them a lot more dangerous. One more little step seems so harmless and quite reasonable to so many people.


22 posted on 07/18/2014 10:50:40 AM PDT by all the best
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To: laplata

This is the new meaning, and it will only become more so with time.


23 posted on 07/18/2014 4:07:46 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Gene Eric

We need to control our State and local education systems. We must insure Standardized and mandatory testing on the concepts of liberty!

Freedom is at the edge of extension in this country, it is imperative that we raise our children and every other child to know exact what it is to respect the NATURAL(As in from Nature NOT State) rights of their countrymen.

To do this we must insert theses topics into standardized testing and mandate passing. You put it into testing and teachers will have to teach it.


24 posted on 07/18/2014 4:10:22 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: all the best

Our children must be taught to think critically about the consequences of voting bread from their neighbors mouth and allowing a state to place such demands in support of such services upon a population.

If our public school systems have but one function this is the only one that is justifying of their experience to all childless population.

Remember teachers today teach for tests, so we must test for their knowledge of the theory of liberty.

There must be questions such as this one the test:
“If a people votes successfully to have the government provide a service which costs x amount for every man, woman, and child in the population where will that money come from.”

If that child answers anything other than the people, they failed the civics portion, and should not be allowed to graduate.


25 posted on 07/18/2014 4:15:49 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Grampa Dave

Democrats control our schools and as such they ARE teaching our children to missbehave as they do with NO respect for anyone else’s rights!

We must focus our attention on securing control of schools and mandating Testing for the virtues of Republican liberty.

Students who can’t answer questions about how the Government gets every dollar it spends upon them(or anything else for that matter) should fail the test and be forced to retake it.

If you test for it teachers will teach it. There is no matter more indispensably in the public interest of education than the education of respect for the civil liberty of one’s countrymen. Otherwise those children will grow up to be like modern democrats with no honest respect for anyone elses rights.


26 posted on 07/18/2014 4:21:34 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Progressives are a very vile bunch. Hitler or Stalin had nothing on what the Progressives of today are capable of if allowed to have their way.


27 posted on 07/18/2014 4:24:48 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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