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Ukraine admits it shot down Russian airliner (2001)
The Telegraph ^ | 10-13-2001 | Ben Aris

Posted on 07/18/2014 9:48:46 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto

Ukraine finally admitted yesterday that its military shot down a Russian airliner that crashed into the Black Sea last week, killing all 78 passengers and crew.

Evhen Marchuk, the chairman of Ukraine's security council, conceded that the plane had probably been brought down by "an accidental hit from an S-200 rocket fired during exercises".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine
Accidents happen even outside a warzone.
1 posted on 07/18/2014 9:48:46 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Eagerly waiting for the Russian separatists to accept responsibility.


2 posted on 07/18/2014 9:49:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Did Russia admit to downing that Korean airliner yet?


3 posted on 07/18/2014 9:50:26 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

That wasn’t an accident, and the Russian separatists weren’t conducting a “drill,” either.


4 posted on 07/18/2014 9:55:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

What would the Ukraine separatists gain by deliberately shooting down a civilian airliner? Aside from world condemnation, the likes of John McCaniac saying there will “to be hell to pay”, and more than likely more aide to their Kiev enemies and more sanctions on their Russian allies. Other than that its genius!


5 posted on 07/18/2014 10:05:26 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

The guy who backed into your car in the grocery store parking lot? What did he have to gain? See where you are going with this . . . ?


6 posted on 07/18/2014 10:07:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Why are you ignoring the idea that it may have been an accident by half-trained, fully vodkarized separatists?


7 posted on 07/18/2014 10:08:41 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: wideawake
Did Russia admit to downing that Korean airliner yet?

The Soviets did that. Russia has as different a government now as the Obama Regime is from the Eisenhower Administration.

8 posted on 07/18/2014 10:09:36 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Natufian

An accident is when you dial a wrong phone number, not when you launch missiles to bring down a plane.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 10:10:21 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Another kremlin kiddie posting a deflecting article,

and by the way ass___ the military and country until

recent boot out of putin stooges was under russlies

control so that was still their fault just like now..


10 posted on 07/18/2014 10:10:26 AM PDT by hubel458
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To: Natufian

half-trained, fully vodkarized separatists

You forgot ‘’mostly brain dead’’ ...


11 posted on 07/18/2014 10:21:24 AM PDT by hubel458
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To: Natufian
It could have been an accident. I don't think they expected a civilian airliner to be flying over a war zone.

Airlines, including Qantas, quit flying over Ukraine airspace months ago

Kiev shuts down airspace over southeast Ukraine

Malaysia plane deviated from typical path before going down

The FAA's Notice Prohibiting Airline Flights Over Ukraine

12 posted on 07/18/2014 10:35:12 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Story from 2001! (Which you note in the headline but seems to be confusing folks.)


13 posted on 07/18/2014 12:07:14 PM PDT by outofsalt
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
The Soviets did that. Russia has as different a government now

Russia is governed by a Soviet, specifically a KGB colonel.

14 posted on 07/18/2014 12:27:03 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

You need to look into why there are videos of chaff falling down on the wreckage site.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 12:42:18 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Evhen Marchuk, the chairman of Ukraine's security council, conceded that the plane had probably been brought down by "an accidental hit from an S-200 rocket fired during exercises".

You don't fire a multimillion dollar rocket in a "training exercise." You PRETEND to fire it.

16 posted on 07/18/2014 1:06:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Do you think they shot down the passenger jet on purpose? No, they were aiming for military aircraft or made a mistake, but the fact is THEY DID shoot it down yesterday, so their cause is now dead.


17 posted on 07/18/2014 1:22:26 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: wideawake
Did Russia admit to downing that Korean airliner yet?

Which one? They shot down two. KAL 902 KAL 007

18 posted on 07/18/2014 1:25:24 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
The Daily Mail, a major conservative newspaper in Great Britain reported yesterday: Singapore Airlines plane was flying just 15 MILES away when MH17 was shot down over Ukraine ... and 55 aircraft flew over danger zone on the SAME DAY

The FAA has nothing to do with non-USA owned flights not over American territory.

If you re looking for a conspiracy, consider looking into just how many of the Russian-speaking separatists are actually Russian officers on assignment from the Russian military--answer: most of them.

19 posted on 07/18/2014 1:34:22 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: 1rudeboy

~That wasn’t an accident, and the Russian separatists weren’t conducting a “drill,” either.~

True, not a drill. Their cities were bombed for weeks, dozens of military aircraft were shot in the area, yet some idiot flew a commercial aircraft there.

Of course, shooting it without proper identification is so wrong on many levels but you can’t judge militias as if they are a professional military.

Not to mention Ukraine has systems like that too, they claimed Russian fighter jet’s incursion and wowed response. And Ukrainian forces are notorious for their incompetence.

Yes, rebels most likely bragged about shooting another transport before they knew what happen but it is that rebels do all the time even if things are falling on themselves.

Though I agree that the version of rebel action as a cause is the most realistic.


20 posted on 07/18/2014 5:00:41 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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From what I read there are many many commercial airlines flying through there.


21 posted on 07/18/2014 5:02:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

They should fix it if they have brains. Numerous Ukrainian units defected with all kind of weaponry, rebels has captured a number of capable assets and dozens of military aircraft were shot, yet boneheads are flying airliners over this mess as if it is a kind of safari.


22 posted on 07/18/2014 5:09:31 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix

Thanks. I knew someone would be by to offer-up excuses.


23 posted on 07/18/2014 5:26:20 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Not an excuse actually, rude.


24 posted on 07/18/2014 5:31:11 PM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: Natufian
Why are you ignoring the idea that it may have been an accident by half-trained, fully vodkarized separatists?

Because to counter the "sodomite EU," one has to break a few eggs. /s

25 posted on 07/18/2014 5:31:45 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: wetphoenix

Ok, next time I won’t read what you write. I’d have given you one sentence, at least.


26 posted on 07/18/2014 5:33:00 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: JSDude1
their cause is now dead.

So who benefited the most from this shoot down?

Where is the hard evidence that the separatists did this, even accidentally?

27 posted on 07/19/2014 7:35:18 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: justa-hairyape

“You need to look into why there are videos of chaff falling down on the wreckage site.”

Got a link to that?


28 posted on 07/19/2014 7:52:40 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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