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Calif. City Will Fine Couple $500 For Not Watering Brown Lawn, State Will Fine’em $500 If They Do
Consumerist ^ | July 18, 2014

Posted on 07/18/2014 1:52:49 PM PDT by SMGFan

When you’re in a steady relationship, communication is clear. Because when mom says to do one thing, and dad says another, the kids get really confused. Such is the case in California, where the state has issued rules for homeowners to conserve water in the midst of extreme drought, with fines of $500 per day or violating those guidelines, but one city is threatening to fine a couple $500 — unless they water their lawn.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 07/18/2014 1:52:49 PM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

And it’s neither one’s business as to whether you water your lawn or not.


2 posted on 07/18/2014 1:53:49 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SMGFan

I’d see if one of em would be willing to lower the fine to $400.00 and go with them.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 1:54:41 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: SMGFan

Put in Astroturf................


4 posted on 07/18/2014 1:58:36 PM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: SMGFan
The US Government DOD requires certain types of electrical enclosures for military use to be tin plated to a Mil-Spec.

The EPA mandates that that type of tin plating cannot be done. So each job you do (usually one to five enclosures) you price into the job the $200,000 EPA fine. So you charge $200,550 each, for a $550.00 item.

The government says that's okeedokee.

5 posted on 07/18/2014 1:58:37 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: SMGFan

It’s California - dig up the lawn and plant marijuana and nobody will bother you (well, maybe the local dealers).


6 posted on 07/18/2014 1:59:19 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: SMGFan
Put down some plastic fake turf. It's green and does not need water.
It's California, who cares if something isn't real.

7 posted on 07/18/2014 1:59:19 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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8 posted on 07/18/2014 1:59:31 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: SMGFan

Its all about equality and fairness, right?

$500 either way - that’s equal!

Someone takes what they did not earn from the one who did earn it - that’s the new definition of ‘fair’, right?


9 posted on 07/18/2014 2:00:04 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: SMGFan

Out of control, unaccountable bureaucrats need to die.


10 posted on 07/18/2014 2:00:42 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: SMGFan
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lesley-daunt/state-vs-federal-law-who-_b_4676579.html

The law that applies to situations where state and federal laws disagree is called the supremacy clause, which is part of article VI of the Constitution. The supremacy clause contains what's known as the doctrine of pre-emption, which says that the federal government wins in the case of conflicting legislation. Basically, if a federal and state law contradict, then when you're in the state you can follow the state law, but the feds can decide to stop you. When there is a conflict between a state law and federal law, it is the federal law that prevails. For example, if a federal regulation prohibits the use of medical marijuana, but a state regulation allows it, the federal law prevails.

11 posted on 07/18/2014 2:05:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: SMGFan
Maybe he could just collect rainwater and irrigate from that...

... if he doesn't mind staying at hotel graybar for a few weeks...


12 posted on 07/18/2014 2:08:12 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SMGFan

All I can say is.. FReepers in Cali, I don’t know how you survive the rampant insanity out there, but God bless you for doing it. Managing to NOT go bonkers is a major accomplishment. You have my highest respect.


13 posted on 07/18/2014 2:08:38 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If it doesn't include border security, it isn't "reform." It's called "amnesty.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Okay.

But this is conflict between state and local law.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 2:10:46 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: SMGFan

OR, the state and local governments could entirely remove themselves from exercising ANY control whatsoever over the lawn watering practices of its citizens.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 2:12:12 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

Same principle. State law supersedes local law.


16 posted on 07/18/2014 2:14:20 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: BitWielder1

Do it the Wernher Von Braun way: cover the yard with concrete and paint it green.


17 posted on 07/18/2014 2:15:05 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: SMGFan

Astroturf. I always thought lawns a colossal waste of time.


18 posted on 07/18/2014 2:16:01 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SMGFan

Wonder what the fine is for peeing outside?


19 posted on 07/18/2014 2:19:12 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: blackdog

proves it is really about the revenue not the environment.


20 posted on 07/18/2014 2:21:57 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Joe 6-pack

Then they put you on the sex offender list for indecent exposure.


21 posted on 07/18/2014 2:24:17 PM PDT by ken in texas
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To: SMGFan

Oh they did the same thing to us in Basic Training. One Sergeant would tell us to do something and then another would tell us to do the opposite. The first would come back and punish us for not doing what he told us to do. We eventually came out of it as trained killers, so no worry.


22 posted on 07/18/2014 2:29:39 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Starstruck

What would happen if an draftee disobeyed every single order from the very first order given (”take a seat on the bus”) to one a few down the line (refusing to break rocks at Leavenworth). I have often wondered this.


23 posted on 07/18/2014 2:33:58 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: SMGFan

Look up the word ‘government’ in the dictionary - this example will be there.


24 posted on 07/18/2014 2:38:29 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: steve86
What would happen if an draftee disobeyed every single order from the very first order given (”take a seat on the bus”) to one a few down the line (refusing to break rocks at Leavenworth). I have often wondered this.

Back when I was in being kicked in the ankles with combat boots for being out of step was not unusual. Refusing an order was not something we wanted to push.

25 posted on 07/18/2014 2:40:22 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: SMGFan

And they want to create six of them???


26 posted on 07/18/2014 2:41:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you do not read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read the newspapers you are misinfo)
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To: SMGFan

Got a simpler idea . go to the hardware store & buy a weed sprayer ,go to art supply store & buy green water color paint ,spray paint your lawn green ,total cost less than $100.00 .


27 posted on 07/18/2014 2:48:14 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: SMGFan

Way too much goddam government.


28 posted on 07/18/2014 2:48:26 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
State law supersedes local law.

Exactly

29 posted on 07/18/2014 2:53:25 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: skeeter
I’d see if one of em would be willing to lower the fine to $400.00 and go with them.

Now that right there is smart thinkin', you gotta head fer bidness on you.

(Or politics)

30 posted on 07/18/2014 2:59:27 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (cations, you know.)
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To: Graybeard58

He should do this. Dig up the entire lawn. Put a couple of rocks down and a cactus and say you are zeroscaping.


31 posted on 07/18/2014 3:06:01 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: Lockbox

Local government will fine you the $500.

They will then tell you that once you have paid the state fine:

1)Submit your receipt (original only)
2)Plus 6 notarized copies of City Council Form 3781(b)/3 - “Request for Refund of Duplicate Fines”
3)To the Clerk of Court
4)On the 5th Thursday of the month following payment of the State fine.


32 posted on 07/18/2014 3:08:07 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: SMGFan

I’d water half of it and leave the other half brown just to give them both the you know which finger.

Blankety, blank nannies. Leave us the hell alone! I’m so sick of this stuff


33 posted on 07/18/2014 3:23:46 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Fledermaus

No, they need to be locked up 1 year for every stupid law they pass.


34 posted on 07/18/2014 3:24:44 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: SMGFan

John Roberts would simply call this a tax. :)


35 posted on 07/18/2014 3:26:18 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: SMGFan

pretty insane


36 posted on 07/18/2014 3:29:26 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SMGFan

California is so screwed up... this proves it...


37 posted on 07/18/2014 3:43:01 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I ai-pprove this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: ExCTCitizen
That's it?
That's the best the FR braintrust can come up with?

Where are all the adults tonight?
You're killing me here.

And just to keep things interesting, we have a third boot on our necks. A Homeowner's Association.

I might just go for two out of three and take my chances.

38 posted on 07/18/2014 6:13:38 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Nebr FAL owner

Green food coloring would also work and avoid any fines should the powers that be decide water color paint is toxic.

They may already have a weed sprayer in the garage, or borrow one. Bet it would cost less than $20.


39 posted on 07/18/2014 6:56:35 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: publius911

I hate HOAs. I think you could be penalized if you sneeze wrong.


40 posted on 07/19/2014 1:07:55 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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