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Russian government edits Wikipedia on flight MH17
The Telegraph ^ | 2014-07-18 | Matthew Sparkes

Posted on 07/18/2014 2:26:28 PM PDT by cartan

A political battle has broken out on Wikipedia over an entry relating to the crash of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, with the Russian government reportedly removing sections which accuse it of providing "terrorists" with missiles that were used to down the civilian airliner.

A Twitter bot which monitors edits made to the online encyclopaedia from Russian government IP addresses (unique numbers relating to certain computers or networks) has spotted that changes are being made to a page relating to the crash.

It appears that an internet user from within the All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company (VGTRK) changed a Russian language version of a page listing civil aviation accidents to say that "The plane [flight MH17] was shot down by Ukrainian soldiers".

That edit replaced text – written just an hour earlier - which said MH17 had been shot down "by terrorists of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic with Buk system missiles, which the terrorists received from the Russian Federation."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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The propaganda war is on in full force.
1 posted on 07/18/2014 2:26:28 PM PDT by cartan
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To: cartan

Whatever the outcome of that fight, the truth will be the likely loser.


2 posted on 07/18/2014 2:28:47 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
Yeah. I wonder if we’ll ever know for sure which side shot down that plane.
3 posted on 07/18/2014 2:33:12 PM PDT by cartan
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To: cartan
Russians are great at this kind of thing:

Operation INFEKTION was a KGB disinformation campaign to spread information that the United States invented HIV/AIDS[2] as part of a biological weapons research project at Fort Detrick, Maryland. The Soviet Union used it to undermine the United States’ credibility, foster anti-Americanism, isolate America abroad, and create tensions between host countries and the U.S. over the presence of American military bases (which were often portrayed as the cause of AIDS outbreaks in local populations).[3]

4 posted on 07/18/2014 2:34:37 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: cartan

Same thing the DemocRATS did to our American History books. Must be a communist thing.


5 posted on 07/18/2014 2:36:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: cartan

I would look to the contemporaneous accounts of the people claiming that they did it, myself.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 2:36:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Zhang Fei

Yes, they have decades of experience there.


7 posted on 07/18/2014 2:38:04 PM PDT by cartan
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To: cartan

The guy pulling the trigger may not even truly know who he was working for


8 posted on 07/18/2014 2:38:31 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: rockrr
Whatever the outcome of that fight, the truth will be the likely loser.

Given the Russian propensity for deceit and double-dealing, I'd be inclined to believe the opposite of just about anything they say.

9 posted on 07/18/2014 2:40:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Anything could be fake at this point. Maybe the NSA can verify the voices. But can we trust the NSA? ;-)

Personally, I believe the most likely scenario is that the plane was shot down by some drunken pro-Russian separatist fighters/terrorists who thought they were shooting at some Ukrainian military plane. But who knows…

10 posted on 07/18/2014 2:42:10 PM PDT by cartan
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To: rockrr

“In war, truth is the first casualty.”

Aeschylus


11 posted on 07/18/2014 2:43:54 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: cartan

I believe it is the most likely scenario myself. Sad thing is, the Russians can’t bring themselves to admit it. (And I don’t mean that in a necessarily bad way—simply observing that if the Russians admitted it now, instead of concocting all sorts of conspiracies, they’d be better off).


12 posted on 07/18/2014 2:46:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: varyouga
The guy pulling the trigger may not even truly know who he was working for

So the Russian-aligned Ukrainian rebels, using Russian-made and provided weapons (potentially including Russian "advisers" to help them use them), may not have known who they were working for? Seriously? When the allegation is that the rebel commander involved is a also a member of the GRU?

At this point, the Russia-shilling has accelerated to ludicrous speed ("They've gone to plaid")...

13 posted on 07/18/2014 2:47:04 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: Zhang Fei

The Soviets were also active in planting stories casting doubt on the Warren Commission, and suggesting the involvement of right wing conspirators in the assassination of JFK.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 3:06:05 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: cartan

Putin-x-KGB=Someone will be dead soon to resolve this.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 3:09:28 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The Soviets were also active in planting stories casting doubt on the Warren Commission, and suggesting the involvement of right wing conspirators in the assassination of JFK.

Heck, that butterface gold digger Jackie Onassis took the lead role in suggesting this, even though she knew that Oswald was a Red through and through.

16 posted on 07/18/2014 3:17:22 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: cartan

“Yeah. I wonder if we’ll ever know for sure which side shot down that plane.”

...and if you look out the left side, you’ll see an exchange of mortar fire and tank rounds.

To be honest, I don’t really care which side took out the plane - I’m more interested in knowing why it was flying directly over a WAR ZONE where military planes had been shot down, and whether that practice will continue in the future.


17 posted on 07/18/2014 3:17:51 PM PDT by BobL
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To: cartan
All edits to Wikipedia are permanently logged, with the username and IP address being stored along with the changes they have made.

Meaning anyone can edit it. Did they check for edits from our government?

18 posted on 07/18/2014 3:27:43 PM PDT by McGruff (Umm)
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I’m more interested in knowing why it was flying directly over a WAR ZONE where military planes had been shot down, and whether that practice will continue in the future.

Same here. This reminds me of Iranian flight 655 that was headed directly for the U.S. Navy ship.

19 posted on 07/18/2014 3:34:02 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: BerryDingle
Singapore Airlines plane was flying just 15 MILES away when MH17 was shot down over Ukraine ... and 55 aircraft flew over danger zone on the SAME DAY
20 posted on 07/18/2014 3:37:21 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: cartan

True... unfortunately.


21 posted on 07/18/2014 3:57:30 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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Bookmark


22 posted on 07/18/2014 4:48:47 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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