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Surprise, Surprise: Israelis Have More Confidence In Obama Than Ever Before
Haaretz ^ | 7/18/2014 (5 hours ago) | Chemi Shalev

Posted on 07/18/2014 2:55:23 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Pew Research poll also shows Israel as staunchly pro-U.S. and most supportive of drones and surveillance in the fight against terrorists.

The fact that Isrealis are one of the most staunchly pro-American people in thw world is not new. But that their confidence in Barack Obama's ability to handle world affairs climbed dramatically to reach an all-time high?

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; democrats; elections; gaza; haaretz; israel; obama; pewpoll
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1 posted on 07/18/2014 2:55:23 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All; Star Traveler

Link workie, workie!


2 posted on 07/18/2014 2:56:15 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Ha’aretz - Neturei Karta with journalism degrees.


3 posted on 07/18/2014 2:57:34 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

It must be noted that this poll was taken in April and May, before the Gaza conflict.

But with Fox News reports like this “Obama says US supports Isreal’s offensive in Gaza” 7/18/2014, I wonder if Obama’s approval rating of 71% among Isrealis will come down much, even though he has botched his handling of this crisis.


4 posted on 07/18/2014 2:58:36 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This is the amount of quote that is allowed here ...

The fact that Israelis are one of the most staunchly pro-American people in the world is not new. But that their confidence in Barack Obama’s ability to handle world affairs climbed dramatically in 2014 to reach an all-time high? That will surely surprise and confound both supporters and detractors of the U.S. president.

Nonetheless, these are some of the findings included a new poll on global attitudes released this week by the Pew Research Institute. According to the poll, 84% of Israelis have a favorable view of the United States, second only to the Philippines, with 92%, among the 44 countries surveyed.

More surprisingly, 71% of Israelis now have “confidence in Obama to do the right thing in world affairs”, a 10% increase over last year. The new figure is the highest it’s ever been in Pew’s annual survey, and is significantly more than the 56% that Obama garnered in 2009 and his low point of 49% in 2011.


5 posted on 07/18/2014 2:59:22 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

In other news, Obamacare is a roaring success, veterans are being treated like gods by the government, Michelle Obama will be over to your house this weekend with a boatload of steak and lobster and Joe Biden is giving away free shotguns at the Naval Observatory.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 2:59:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Full text available by registration only; however, it would appear that Israelis are nuts.


7 posted on 07/18/2014 3:00:26 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Here’s a running account of news reports related to these recent events with Israel and Hamas. If you want to catch up on the news accounts ... they are here ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/stisraelhamas/index

It’s listed from newest to oldest, so go to the bottom to start.


8 posted on 07/18/2014 3:00:29 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Ad Hominem does not help at all.

Obama has botched his handling of this crisis, no doubt, but with the Pew Poll and the reporting and talking on that poll soon to come, it will have to be talked about, and Ad Homs won’t do much in the discussion of Obama’s botched handling of this crisis.


9 posted on 07/18/2014 3:01:13 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Jack Hammer

No kidding!!


10 posted on 07/18/2014 3:01:27 PM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men d)
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To: Star Traveler

There is much more available to those who register.


11 posted on 07/18/2014 3:02:10 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Perhaps Haaretz has forgotten the series of polls showing throughout Hussein’s first term that had him around 3 or 4 percent.

I certainly haven’t forgotten!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/28/percent-israelis-think-obama-pro-israel/


12 posted on 07/18/2014 3:03:24 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarcasm won’t help much in the discussions and reports on this to come, either, despite Obama’s botched handling of this.


13 posted on 07/18/2014 3:03:35 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarcasm won’t help much in the discussions and reports on this to come, either, despite Obama’s botched handling of this.


14 posted on 07/18/2014 3:03:40 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Jack Hammer

Yes, much more is available to peruse - for those who register (which isn’t hard to do).

“Isrealis are nuts.”

We should not broad brush stroke all Isrealis and call them all nuts.


15 posted on 07/18/2014 3:06:27 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yes there is, and I have registered and get all of it ... :-) ...


16 posted on 07/18/2014 3:09:13 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Good, then Israel won’t mind doing a swap... Ø for Bibi. With cash... $3.7 Billion should do. And, we’ll throw in a player to be named later (can choose from Biden, Hillary!, Reed (sicKo), Washerwoman).


17 posted on 07/18/2014 3:09:16 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

How Obama got to 71%, I have no idea...


18 posted on 07/18/2014 3:09:18 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It was a joke - lighten up.


19 posted on 07/18/2014 3:11:43 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

20 posted on 07/18/2014 3:12:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Oh we can believe Haaretz. Theya are as trustworthy as the New York Times.


21 posted on 07/18/2014 3:12:20 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I was relieved to find out Am Ha’aretz did not misspell ‘Israelis’, but these days, even the BBC does stuff like that.


22 posted on 07/18/2014 3:21:13 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

After the way Obama has treated the Israelis?


23 posted on 07/18/2014 3:24:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Ha’aretz occupies the same niche in Israel that the Guardian does in England. GIGO.


24 posted on 07/18/2014 3:27:06 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

We have a saying in Hebrew:

“The only Israel HAARETZ ever supported was the British Mandate.”


25 posted on 07/18/2014 3:28:24 PM PDT by golux
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26 posted on 07/18/2014 3:28:29 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Ha'aretz leans to the left in Israel and against Israel in matters of defense, as do the following kind of constituent here in the States. They lean against U.S. defense from both U.S. parties, many of them while pointing blame at Jewish people and Israel.

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”
National Cmte to Preserve Social Security & Medicare $10,414,606 [Democrat] 82% [Republican] 17%

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

Spendthrift ways are ways of government-linked socialists.

About "70 million" people are receiving good incomes but are also steeped in debt and can't borrow more for big ticket items.


27 posted on 07/18/2014 3:35:32 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
So which U.S. political party should the Israelis run to for help? During the 2004 Republican campaign, the Official Republican Platform promised to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel instead of Tel Aviv. Instead, Israel received the following treatment (links accessed and posted, some with quotations, long ago).

Bush on Israel: Heartburn for All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844641/posts

President Abbas asks Congress help to release PNA funds withheld by Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844647/posts

Bush releases money to Abbas
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844646/posts

Rice: Better to have Hamas in power than in streets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1733397/posts

Rice: Palestinians deserve to live free of ‘occupation’[at an event of pro-Palestinian group]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1717847/posts

US Supplies Fatah With Arms, Rice Decries “Occupation”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718348/posts

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts

Disciples of Christ to Israel: Drop dead
http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-religion/1458942/posts

U.S. Presbyterians target five firms with Israel links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458765/posts

The Church Stares Into the Abyss (The dhimmitude of the Church of England)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1435084/posts

(Anti-Semitic) Anglican group urges Israel sanctions
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430566/posts

Anglicans Call for Sanction on Investment in Israel to Uphold Justice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1430772/posts

THE VATICAN AND THE STANDOFF AT THE CHURCH OF THE NATIVITY
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp515.htm

Two United Methodist gatherings urge selective divestment from Israel (official anti-Israel United Methodist Website)
http://www.umc.org/site/c.gjJTJbMUIuE/b.886089/k.A105/Two_United_Methodist_gatherings_urge_selective_divestment_from_Israel.htm

world council of churches (WCC)
church & ecumenical relations
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/what/ecumenical/index-e.html
"Among those churches which are not members of the WCC, the most notable is the Roman Catholic Church (RCC). Since 1965 a Joint Working Group (JWG), co-sponsored by the WCC and the RCC, has met regularly to discuss issues of common interest and promote cooperation. The group meets annually. One of the church and ecumenical relations staff members serves as co-secretary for the JWG and helps to coordinate contact between the Council and the dicasteries of the Vatican through the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. [And] . . . Though the Roman Catholic Church is not a member of the WCC, it is a full member of the Faith & Order Commission. The RCC also serves the team on Mission & Evangelism in a consultative capacity."

President Bush Calls for New Palestinian Leadership
The Rose Garden
June 24, 2002
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020624-3.html
"The United States, the international donor community and the World Bank stand ready to work with Palestinians on a major project of economic reform and development. The United States, the EU, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund are willing to oversee reforms in Palestinian finances, encouraging transparency and independent auditing."

Quartet Joint Statement
Summary
July 16, 2002: Text of a joint statement issued by the "Quartet" (United Nations, Russian Federation, the United States and the European Union) following their meeting in New York
[Document behind the link.]
http://europa-eu-un.org/articles/sk/article_1489_sk.htm
"The new international Task Force on Reform, which is comprised of representatives of the U.S., EU, UN Secretary General, Russia, Japan, Norway, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund, and which works under the auspices of the Quartet, will strive to develop and implement a comprehensive action plan for reform."

...little more background material:

Rice: Israel Must Withdraw from More than Gaza and Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1333354/posts
February 1, 2005

Bush and Sharon disagree over Israel's future
Wednesday June 27, 2001
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,513410,00.html

Sharon presses Putin to drop UN resolution on road map
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1013908/posts
4 November 2003

Commencement Address at Boston College (Secretary Condoleezza Rice, Boston, Massachusetts, May 22, 2006. US Department of State)

Excerpts:

As a student of a Catholic high school, the Sisters of Loretta taught me, I am pleased to be at an institution of higher education with such strong and celebrated Catholic and Jesuit traditions . . . You see, I got my Master's Degree at Notre Dame. (Boos.) I acquired a passion for the fighting Irish . . . and my family has been college educated and Presbyterian ever since. (Laughter and applause.) . . . I wandered into a course on international politics taught by a Czech refugee who specialized in Soviet studies, a man who had a daughter by the name of Madeleine Albright. With that one class, I was hooked. I discovered that my passion was Russia and all things Russian.

Democrats are hyper-regulating socialists. So are Republicans, especially in state and local levels of government. We Americans also have no political party to support.


28 posted on 07/18/2014 3:45:12 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It’s spelled “Israel” (and “Israelis”).


29 posted on 07/18/2014 3:47:43 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll defend your rights?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Yeah - I have full confidence in the president too.


30 posted on 07/18/2014 5:08:39 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

This poll doesn’t surprise me. Obama got 69% of the Jewish vote in 2012 and Shimon Peres awarded him Israel’s highest civilian honor, the Medal of Distinction.
http://www.jpost.com/Arts-and-Culture/Arts/Peres-bestows-on-Obama-the-Medal-of-Distiniction-307338


31 posted on 07/18/2014 8:03:49 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus
Obama’s share of the Jewish vote in 2012 was actually 80% if you subtract the mostly conservative Orthodox Jews.

That is so depressing.

American Conservatives are the most reliable Friends of Israel in the world, yet most secular American Jews absolutely despise us.

32 posted on 07/18/2014 11:22:09 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Didn’t the Israelites have confidence in Hitler to.Then look what happen to them..Obama like Hitler hates the JEWS.


33 posted on 07/20/2014 7:15:49 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Dave346

Apparently things have changed given that the light of day has shined on Obama’s extensive use of surveillance and drones. That appears to have been a game changer among Isrealis.


34 posted on 07/21/2014 1:22:33 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Star Traveler

Awesome!


35 posted on 07/21/2014 1:22:55 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Jack Hammer

Expressions and emotion can sometimes be hard to convey via the net, especially joing around. If according to what you say, then no problem!

BTW, what do you think about Isreal’s massive confidence in Obama?


36 posted on 07/21/2014 1:25:02 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know, you were joking about all of the Obamacare, veterans. Therefore, given what you said, we should both lighten up, then! Sounds good. :)

If not, then you will have to lighten up about Obamacare, Veterans, etc.

BTW, doing away with the red herring of your initial post, what do you think about Israel’s massive confidence in Obama?

37 posted on 07/21/2014 1:28:05 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Nachum

That’s funny...People have posted [past articles here (one or two from me) from the New York Times that have ripped the Obama administration, or brought something to light about it that was damaging to the Obama administration, and yet I didn’t hear a peep about it not being trustworthy then?

I guess you are one of those that are one way one day, one way another day, when it comes to the NYT and according to what they are reporting. :)


38 posted on 07/21/2014 1:30:32 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: jjotto

And so do some American newspapers.


39 posted on 07/21/2014 1:31:13 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Blood of Tyrants

What is more surprsing than that, is how Republicans tend to hate Obama’s policies, while most Isrealis tend to love Obama’s policies Talk about a disconnect...


40 posted on 07/21/2014 1:32:31 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Slings and Arrows
And the Guardian more than anyone reported on how the Obama adm. is spying on regular, heartland-of-America Americans.

And 71% of Israelis have confidence in Obama’s policies in Obama’s use of surveillance (and drones).

So your problem with Haaretz is..., unless you are a big-govt’t, top-down, must know all McCainiac or Rep. King-style person?

41 posted on 07/21/2014 1:36:27 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: golux

Logically fallacious, sweeping generalization such a saying in Hebrew is...


42 posted on 07/21/2014 1:37:15 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: familyop

And John McCain, as is Lindesy Graham, Peter King, etc, can be found on the polar opposite from Haaretz. So, what is your point -— that you support RINOS?


43 posted on 07/21/2014 1:39:23 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: familyop
You have it backwards: why should we Republicans continually reach out to Israel, show that we respect them, believe in and adamantly support their national right to exist as a sovereign state, etc, only to find that they after all of this overwhelmingly support Obama? I support Israel, but Repubs get back stabbed all of the time it seems: i.e. Where do most of the big bucks go to during election cycles be they 2 or 4 year ones: to Dems or Repubs?
44 posted on 07/21/2014 1:43:43 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Ah, the sppech police....

Nice red herring, though.


45 posted on 07/21/2014 1:44:50 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; AuH2ORepublican

I hope you like the intentional misspelling of “speech” LOL.


46 posted on 07/21/2014 1:46:52 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Tzimisce
So if most of Israel supports Obama, where then does that leave Republicans? How can they differentiate themselves from him,, or do they intend on carrying out the same policies that Obama has, so that they, too, can reap the rewards of high poll numbers?
47 posted on 07/21/2014 1:48:29 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
"So if most of Israel supports Obama, where then does that leave Republicans? How can they differentiate themselves from him,, or do they intend on carrying out the same policies that Obama has, so that they, too, can reap the rewards of high poll numbers?"

It leaves them with their ongoing activities, for example, pushing for a constitutional convention controlled by state and local government employees and influential constituents to eventually pass an amendment to allow state and local unions (through their state politicians) to more easily amend the Constitution (re. Levin, _The Liberty Amendments_, Article V convention herd).

Same policies, other side of the same political face.


48 posted on 07/21/2014 2:04:02 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I don’t understand what you mean. It’s a joke. It’s funnier to me after having read HAARETZ in Israel through the disengagement and after. In case you’re slow or something the point is that HAARETZ is kind of like the New York Times and Village Voice meet “The Blade” in terms of its editorial stance.


49 posted on 07/21/2014 3:13:30 PM PDT by golux
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Can't find a copy of the poll, though it's at complete odds with other polls about Obama. Given the source, Ha'aertz, I can't help but wonder if the question was America rather than Obama. Who has consistently been polling in the 10% or so approval area. Not that it matters what Israeli's think of him. Most recent I could find quickly was from Feb, 2014, 70% wouldn't trust him. Even at his lowest in Israel, about 4% approval, Israeli's still trusted America

50 posted on 07/21/2014 3:55:25 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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