Skip to comments.Staten Island DA looking into death of dad of six after NYPD cop put him in chokehold (Update)
Posted on 07/18/2014 4:12:56 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
--SNIP-- This comes as two NYPD officers were yanked off the street Friday as cops and the Staten Island district attorneys investigated the stunning death of a suspect placed in a banned chokehold. The officers were slated for desk duty pending completion of the probe into Thursdays death of Eric Garner, 43, as he was brought down by five NYPD officers outside a Tompkinsville beauty parlor.
Loss of life is always a tragedy, said Police Commissioner Bill Bratton at a City Hall news conference. Nobody began the day with the expectation it would end the way it did.
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Too many people are learning MMA and think taking the easy way out has no consequences.
That choke hold can/did have dire outcomes.
In before the badge worshippers.
Can't wait to see how they'll excuse this.
I thought that I recalled that it was banned, but I wasn’t sure.
Cops with tats shouldn’t be among us.
A sure sign on mental disorder.
Go drive a forklift instead. (though there’s nothing wrong with that) (It just means you’re not qualified to determine who lives and dies) (Dooshes!)
May just as well have been this way
If the thread about the cop beating the tar out of that lady is any indication..
The usual. He did it to himself. You need to bow and lick the boots of your masters or you deserve what you get.
It’s a real pity that DiBlasio had to postpone his trip to Italy/sarcasm off
I think that Viet Cong had it coming to him.
Pretending to be a civilian, and then attacking and killing people while you and your gang of commie thugs are trying to overthrow the Nation. Sure, he earned his bullet.
If hazy memory serves, it was a similar choking death that caused it to be banned to begin with.
Yes, that’s what I recall as well, with my befuddled memory.
Not even close.
A different world. Not a place you would ever want to be.
I was in country for Tet of 68 and two more.
Nguyen Ngoc Loan,Tet offensive of 68
Mr. Loan insisted that his action was justified because the prisoner had been the captain of a terrorist squad that had killed the family of one of his deputy commanders.
Wasn’t too long ago either.
Q: How many cops does it take to throw a handcuffed prisoner down the steps behind the lockup?
A: None. They always jump. (Headfirst.)
IIRC the picture’s site takes place Da Nang during the Tet Offensive; the shootee is NVN and the shooter has found out that the NVN terrorists (not necessarily the dead shootee) have executed his wife and family plus about 5,000 loyal south vietnamese.
No, I don’t think it was that long ago.
Within past twelve years.
That isn’t too long ago.
I’m a cop and I don’t excuse it. The cops in question exceeded their departments use of force policy. Start “coloring outside the lines” and you get indicted. That’s what the use of force policy is there for, to tell you what is and is not acceptable. Personally, I’ve never liked the “cowboys” in my agency, they tend to suck others into their stupidity when they get into trouble. Fortunately my agency seems to have a good grip on this sort of thing. Please don’t assume all of us are JBT’s because we pin on a badge before we go to work.
Not even close.
Does FreeRepublic have subscribers in the nation’s lockups.
Did you know the guy with the gun in that photo was the police chief in Saigon?
No. Not at all. There’s no way that the cops involved weren’t aware of it.
Isn’t NYC run by Democrats?
Can anyone say whitewash with no charges filed against the thugs.
Wonder how they justified it to themselves.
I’m beginning to wonder how many of today’s cops are sociopaths.
More than enough, especially in the NYPD, chp, state troopers..etc.
I've been wondering about the politicians too.
I don't think anybody assumes all police are JBTs, but like peaceful moslems, they just don't matter.
They will neither support the victims, nor fight against the perpetrators.
The 'professionalization' of LEOs means that they are selected and trained by social science university graduates. A society that lacks a traditional view of right and wrong simply can't end up with LEOs as a group that are more moral than the sinking average.
Well,his family’s just won the lottery.
What? Are you kidding?
They are TRAINED to be sociopaths!
It certainly seems so. I am beginning to wonder how they’re screening these people.
As of January it's been run by a Maoist.
Didn’t notice, but did they shoot his 12 week old puppy before or after they choked him to death?
I’m not sure that’s possible, but it sure seems that way at times.
At least the Saigon cop had good reason. the person he is shooting was a VC who had just murdered a family near there. The cop was godfather to that family.
Da Nang, it wasn’t Saigon.
maybe not sociopaths but bullies.
Two years back NYPD held a recruiting drive at a homosexual bdsm festival.
.............I think I am gonna come down on your side on this one!
Yes, certainly that.
I agree with you about this case, and your comments about the murderer.
Although you know the background behind the picture (9), others might not -- so I copied an excerpt below.
Pulled from: davidrobertcrews.blogspot.com
There is also film footage of this famous execution. There is a documentary film about the still photographer who took this photo, and there is also a documentary about the TV news cameraman who filmed this infamous scene. I saw each of those documentaries on PBS TV about ten years ago.
In the year 2000, I had a photography instructor, Pat Perry, who had been an MP in Vietnam. At the exact moment when this world famous photo was taken, Pat was about ¼ mile away from the scene, and he was very busily fighting for his life. This was during the Tet Offensive, on February 1, 1968, when the communist Vietnamese were attacking many targets all over South Vietnam from all directions, and those fighters had just about overrun the country.
It may very well be that the South Vietnamese Army officer, General Nguyen Ngoc Loan, who is seen in the photo shooting a Viet Cong Guerrilla through his skull was justified in doing so. The general had just been given the terrible news that some VC attackers had just cut the throats of three children whom he cared very much about. The person being shot through his head had just been captured right near where the children had been murdered.
The generals men tell him the kids were murdered; he is standing there stunned and trying to process the emotionally devastating info; several other of his men walk up to him with a prisoner in tow and say exactly where they captured the VC; the officer immediately realizes these facts:
1. The VC could very well have been one of the ones who had cut the childrens throats.
2. If that very VC did not have his hands on the kids as they were murdered, he was still part of the humongous group of Communist attackers who were there to kill as many, many South Vietnamese and Americans as they could. That VC had definitely provided some kinda military support to aid the throat slitters in their brutal task.
3. General Nguyens whole g**** fuckin country was being overrun by his enemies at that point in time.
4. The general had no friggin way of knowing how long he had to live; he was being effectively attacked from all sides; his prospective remaining time on earth musta seemed to be awfully short to him; so there was no way that he could have figured that there would be any future opportunity to give the VC a fair trial.
5. And the general and his men had enough to deal with from that VCs vicious comradesit was no time to be screwing around with a prisoner.
The three childrens parents had been murdered at the same time the kids had been. And the way that them VC usually did things was to tie their captives up, cut the childrens throats as the bound and gagged, horrified, parents helplessly were forced to watch, then the parents were killed.
The childrens father had been a deputy police chief under General Nguyens command, and the two men were very close friends. The father was in some capacity a long-time, armed fighter and enemy of the VC. The general told the photographer who took the photo that he understood that the kids father was an enemy in a war against the VC, that war is war and he would have let the VC live if it was just the father killed, but killin the kids was too much for him to bear. I can understand his point of view as best a non-victim of similar circumstances can.
My memories of the documentaries are that one of the photographers said in the film about himself that the slain father was the generals best friend and that the children were his Godchildren. Pat said that the kids were the generals niece and nephews. It does not matter who had the exact facts right, the officer loved those children and their family dearly.
The scene is always described as, General Nguyen pulled out his revolver and calmly executed the prisoner with a single shot to the right temple.
I do not believe that the general was calm.
I believe that General Nguyen was numb from emotional shock, and that his insides felt like they were beginning to stew inside of him. But he was a trained soldier, a lifelong warrior, a veteran of many years of fighting hard for what he believed in, and he was an Asian gentlemanmen who are taught from their youths to maintain control over their emotions and not loose their grip on themselves in a bad situation. General Nguyen was not calm at all during that frozen flash in time when the photo was taken; he was simply doing his best to keep from loosing his grip. He was beginning to broil with justifiable anger beyond what most people can relate to. He was in control of his emotions enough not to break down and loose control of what he needed to do to defeat his attacking enemies.
General Nguyen shot that shit through the head, and then the general moved on to lead his men in helping to win the horrific battle that massive numbers of fiercely fighting American GIs were also engaged in. Any calm feelings that the general was experiencing, during the infamous moment when he drew his pistol and dispatched that murdering VC to go greet his ancestors, were necessary for the generals survival.
General Nguyen Ngoc Loan once owned a restaurant in Virginia, unfortunately, he was driven out of business by harassing Americans who had their priorities screwed up. He passed away on July 14, 1998. I wanted to go meet him when he was alive, to shake his hand and tell him that I believe he did the right thing at the time.
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