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Red light cameras tag thousands for undeserved tickets [Chicago]
Chicago Tribune ^ | 7/18/2014 | David Kidwell and Alex Richards

Posted on 07/18/2014 8:22:50 PM PDT by markomalley

Thousands of Chicago drivers have been tagged with $100 red light fines they did not deserve, targeted by robotic cameras during a series of sudden spikes in tickets that city officials say they cannot explain, a Tribune investigation has found.

The Tribune's analysis of more than 4 million tickets issued since 2007 and a deeper probe of individual cases revealed clear evidence that the deviations in Chicago's network of 380 cameras were caused by faulty equipment, human tinkering or both.

Chicago transportation officials say they had no knowledge of the wild swings in ticketing until they were told by the Tribune — even though City Hall legally required the camera vendor to watch for the slightest anomaly in ticketing patterns every day. Many of the spikes lasted weeks.

The lack of oversight raises new questions about the controversial traffic enforcement program, the largest in the country, now embroiled in a federal corruption probe into allegations that the city's longtime red light camera manager took bribes from the camera company.

“Something is terribly amiss here,” said Joseph Schofer, an associate dean at Northwestern University's McCormick School of Engineering and Applied Science who reviewed the Tribune's research.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Illinois
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1 posted on 07/18/2014 8:22:51 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

They’re catching the bullets as speeders


2 posted on 07/18/2014 8:23:49 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: markomalley

“Chicago transportation officials say they had no knowledge of the wild swings in ticketing until they were told by the Tribune”

Riiiiggggghhhhht. If you believe that.....


3 posted on 07/18/2014 8:24:59 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Viennacon

LOL!


4 posted on 07/18/2014 8:25:27 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Viennacon

LOL! Good one. ;-)


5 posted on 07/18/2014 8:25:59 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Lurker

Apparently cities going bankrupt gatta do whatever to make ends meet. They just got caught.


6 posted on 07/18/2014 8:27:56 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: doc1019

Bingo. Now watch as the city of Chicago fights tooth and nail over refunding a nickel of this money.


7 posted on 07/18/2014 8:29:18 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: markomalley

“a series of sudden spikes in tickets that city officials say they cannot explain, a Tribune investigation has found.”

It is called enhancing the cities revenue.


8 posted on 07/18/2014 8:35:51 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Lurker

Yep! They will issue a public apology and say it won’t happen again. Unless there is a class action suit, nothing else will happen and nobody will get their money back.

Considering that all such fines are generally held in a confidential database, a class action suit is highly unlikely ...


9 posted on 07/18/2014 8:36:54 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Lurker

It sure sounds like someone else we know.

“I didn’t know about it until I read about it in the paper.”


10 posted on 07/18/2014 8:37:26 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

It’s the Chicago way.


11 posted on 07/18/2014 8:39:33 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: markomalley

Somebody send Rahm a fish.


12 posted on 07/18/2014 8:40:49 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: markomalley

In Ci-cago? I am shocked, I tell you, shocked! In Ci-cago? Who would’ve thunk it? I wonder now what the size of the bill is that you have to give them clipped to your driver’s license to get off with a warning compared to when I lived there?


13 posted on 07/18/2014 8:45:50 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: markomalley

Corruption in Chicago?


14 posted on 07/18/2014 8:47:09 PM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: DannyTN

shockingly hard to believe isn’t it?


15 posted on 07/18/2014 8:48:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: markomalley

That’s the fad today when it comes to this new “fundamentally transformed” country. Now you can be tried and convicted of a crime when they government says so, and apparently even killed on the spot when the government says so for whatever reason they say so.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/staten-island-da-man-death-nypd-chokehold-article-1.1871946


16 posted on 07/18/2014 8:48:08 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: markomalley
Chicago's network of 380 cameras

LOL! What a bunch of SHEEPLE.

380 cameras milking the proles for $100 a throw. I get a ticket from one of yours, I put two of yours in the scrap yard...

17 posted on 07/18/2014 8:56:36 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
You know, GJMY, your post was kind of "uppity".

Maybe the NSA needs to look into who you REALLY are, in the interests of "precrime", of course...

Just like flashbangs, it's for the children.

18 posted on 07/18/2014 9:00:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: markomalley

There must not be any traffic accidents with all those red light cameras...


19 posted on 07/18/2014 9:02:21 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: yorkiemom; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; Foundahardheadedwoman; baddog 219; ..

CWII Spark — Pv 29:2 “When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan.”


20 posted on 07/18/2014 9:36:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: doc1019

Hacksaws, .22s, and maybe flaming tires are the proper response to traffic cameras.


21 posted on 07/18/2014 9:37:11 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: markomalley

How to beat red light ticket: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/effectively-beat-red-light-camera-ticket/

Friend in Chi-town just received ticket and sending similar worded response.


22 posted on 07/18/2014 9:48:07 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: markomalley

I live in central Illinois, about 180 miles from Chicago. About 40 years ago, the city of Chicago sent me a parking ticket. At that time, I had never been in Chicago in my life. I found out that they were sending them out randomly, all over the state.

Some people actually paid them.


23 posted on 07/18/2014 9:54:17 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (cations, you know.)
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To: markomalley

Bump for later when I get a red light ticket


24 posted on 07/18/2014 10:13:54 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: markomalley

Times are getting tough for the red light and speeding camera crowd. Americans refused to play their game.


25 posted on 07/18/2014 10:16:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: Viennacon

Nice


26 posted on 07/18/2014 10:35:08 PM PDT by suijuris
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To: markomalley

This actually sounds like in most of the cases the camera operated properly, but the reviewer wasn’t aware that a turn after full stop is legal. In some states, there’s no turn on red, in others the full stop has to be before the limit line. If the first reviewer wasn’t applying the right standard for Chicago, then the second reviewer could have just been signing off on anything thrown in front of her for years, and that wouldn’t have shown up until the first reviewer started screwing up. One of those cases where it’s not an independent review if they’re both applying the wrong standard or if one of them isn’t actually doing a review at all.

My city dumped the cameras because they weren’t effective and we were losing money on them. We didn’t get many bounced out of court, primarily because the citation couldn’t be issued until a cop reviewed the tape.


27 posted on 07/18/2014 10:45:16 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: markomalley

Traffic cameras should be an anethma to every American.

They violate the Bill of Rights and are demonstrably a tool to create revenue rather than decrease behavior, such as running a red light.


28 posted on 07/19/2014 8:04:36 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: markomalley
...allegations that the city's longtime red light camera manager took bribes from the camera company.

It's the Chicago Way!

29 posted on 07/19/2014 8:41:05 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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