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After MH17 shot down, video shows Buk missile launcher allegedly being moved from Ukraine to Russia
National Post ^ | July 18, 2014 | Tom Parfitt & David Barrett

Posted on 07/19/2014 9:47:25 AM PDT by free_life

A missile launcher allegedly used to destroy Flight MH17 has been smuggled across the Ukrainian border into Russia to cover up its role in the strike, Ukraine’s interior minister claimed Friday.

Amid mounting evidence that Russian-backed separatists were behind the disaster, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations said “technical assistance” from Russia could not be ruled out.

In a pointed reference to Moscow, Samantha Power added that the perpetrators should not be “sheltered” by any UN member state.

We cannot rule out technical assistance from the Russians. The perpetrators must be brought to justice, they must not be sheltered by any member state of the United Nations.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: mh17; putin; russia; terrorism; war
The Ukrainian Interior Ministry said footage of a Buk launcher with one of its four missiles apparently missing was captured by a police surveillance squad at dawn Friday.

In a day of claim and counter-claim, Ukraine’s interior minister, Arsen Avakov, said a Buk mobile launch vehicle had been moved since the destruction of the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200 on Thursday, and that it was missing at least one rocket. He claimed the launcher had been tracked by Ukrainian intelligence agents as it passed by the town of Krasnodon in the Luhansk region.

A 13-second video showed a tarpaulin-covered vehicle being driven through a semi-rural location with green and white missiles still visible, but it was not possible to confirm the veracity of the claim.

Mr. Avakov wrote on Facebook: “To all appearance, this is exactly the Buk rocket complex which fired at the aircraft flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.”

Photographs also emerged purportedly showing a Buk battery being moved in a rebel-held area close to the crash site.

Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, dismissed suggestions that Moscow was involved in the alleged strike. The separatists also denied involvement, claiming that they did not have a weapon capable of such an attack.

However, the separatists themselves announced last month that they had seized at least one Buk missile launcher from a Ukrainian army base in Donetsk.

Ms. Power told the UN Security Council: “We assess Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 … was likely downed by a surface-to-air missile, [likely] an SA-11 [the U.S. designation for a Buk missile], operated from a separatist location in eastern Ukraine.” She added: “We cannot rule out technical assistance from the Russians. The perpetrators must be brought to justice, they must not be sheltered by any member state of the United Nations.”

Douglas Barrie, an air defence specialist from the International Institute for Security Studies, said a Buk would have been capable of hitting an aircraft at 10,000 metres, the altitude at which MH17 was flying when it disappeared. “That kind of altitude is in the heart of its engagement envelope,” he added.

Russian sources suggested that the Buk system seized by the rebels in Donetsk was poorly maintained or incomplete, and there was speculation that it could not have been fired in such condition. But Mr. Barrie said that while the Buk required specialist training to operate, the launcher could be used crudely even without a separate command vehicle or surveillance radar.

Raw tracking data from a less sophisticated radar mounted within the launch vehicle itself would have made it difficult to distinguish a civilian jet from a military plane, possibly explaining why MH17 was shot down by mistake, he said.

There were unconfirmed reports that MH17’s “black box” – the voice data recorder and flight data recorder – had already been found and spirited away to Moscow. Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to Mr. Avakov, said: “According to the latest information from our intelligence the black boxes obtained by the terrorists at the scene will be handed over to their supervisors from FSB [the Russian security service] today on one of the border crossing checkpoints of Luhansk.

“This would be one of the many brazen acts of violation of international treaties in the sphere of aircraft accidents investigation by [Vladimir] Putin.”

Mr. Lavrov responded: “Despite what Kiev is again saying, we do not plan to take these boxes. We do not plan to violate existing norms for such situations. We want international experts to get to the site of the crash as soon as possible so that they get the black boxes right away.”

Earlier, Valentyn Nalivaychenko, Ukraine’s state security chief, released recordings and transcripts of what he claimed were intercepted telephone conversations between Russian military intelligence officers and rebel fighters, suggesting collusion in a missile strike.

One recording featured a man whom Mr. Nalivaychenko said was Igor Bezler, a rebel commander, who is heard reporting on the incident to Vasily Geranin, a colonel in Russian military intelligence.

“A plane has just been shot down. It was the ‘minelaying’ group. They’ve gone to search and photograph the plane. It is smoking,” Bezler says.

In another recording, a rebel fighter going by the nom de guerre of “Major” is heard to say: “Hell. It’s almost 100 per cent certain that it’s a civilian plane.”

The UN Security Council approved a statement drafted by the British government yesterday which called for “a full, thorough and independent international investigation”. The Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe said 30 observers reached the site yesterday, as talks continued with the rebels to create a “humanitarian corridor” allowing access to the region.

But it remained unclear which organisation would take the lead role in the inquiry. It is unknown whether Ukraine has a functioning air accident organisation with the resources and personnel necessary to carry out such a complex investigation. Philip Hammond, the British Foreign Secretary, called for the United Nations to lead the inquiry and the Air Accident Investigation Branch said it was sending a team to Ukraine to help.

1 posted on 07/19/2014 9:47:25 AM PDT by free_life
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To: free_life

Yep, I can see the “Russia or Bust” sign on the side of the road, as well as yesterday’s newspaper.

Must be trying to get that hardware out of there in a hurry.


3 posted on 07/19/2014 9:54:15 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

“Yep, I can see the “Russia or Bust” sign on the side of the road, as well as yesterday’s newspaper.

Must be trying to get that hardware out of there in a hurry.”
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Oh yeah....a real big hurry.

What’s the Russian for “Lucy.....you got some ‘splainin’ to do!”


4 posted on 07/19/2014 9:57:17 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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World's top terrorist.

5 posted on 07/19/2014 9:59:24 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Putin needed to get the Russian military personnel who were manning that BUK out too.


6 posted on 07/19/2014 10:01:49 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: BobL

So far, Putin has blamed the victim, hidden the evidence (black boxes, launcher, personnel), and now will probably refuse to cooperate with any investigation.

Sure sounds like the actions of someone who’s guilty.


7 posted on 07/19/2014 10:08:27 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: free_life

Fortunately for Vlad obama remains flexible. This will be out of the American news as soon as obama’s failed foreign policy comes to light.

By next Wednesday.


8 posted on 07/19/2014 10:10:44 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: free_life

Putin cleaning up. Nothing new for communists killers.


9 posted on 07/19/2014 10:12:04 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: canuck_conservative

“So far, Putin has blamed the victim, hidden the evidence (black boxes, launcher, personnel), and now will probably refuse to cooperate with any investigation.”

The blame seemed to arrive VERY QUICKLY from the other side...even faster.


10 posted on 07/19/2014 10:12:05 AM PDT by BobL
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To: free_life
I read yesterday that the BUK/Military Vehicle shown in the video was one missile short. Typically they carry four missiles, three were seen in the video.

Was the BUK that fired the deadly missile caught on video? Seems like it.

Another nail in Putin's coffin.

Clearly the cold war has resumed.

11 posted on 07/19/2014 10:13:56 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: free_life

I am sure Obama’s response today will include doing something with golf clubs. What’s the weather like at Ft. Belvoir?


12 posted on 07/19/2014 10:17:10 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: free_life
word on the street is that John If I Had A Hammer Kerry....is on his way to moscow to woo putin's cooperation in getting to the bottom of this

his plans are said to include an opening serenade,,,


13 posted on 07/19/2014 10:18:02 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: canuck_conservative

Putin is caught red handed this time. Time to put the international screws to him.


14 posted on 07/19/2014 10:49:33 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

And there is the problem our Prez and his administration is AWOL as Putin advances the evil empire.


15 posted on 07/19/2014 10:51:25 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: BobL

The Russians couldn’t hide it fast enough this time and have been caught red handed, but keep making excuses for our enemies quisling.


16 posted on 07/19/2014 10:53:30 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: BobL

There is a lot of Obama’s Administration in Putin’s administration or a lot of Putin’s administration in Obama’s administration. Or both!


17 posted on 07/19/2014 10:55:49 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Hoodat

Obama is practicing his bowing to muslim leaders as Putin supports muslim terrorists... well actually so is Obama.. a coordinated effort against America and Israel by Obama and Putin.


18 posted on 07/19/2014 10:57:17 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Don Corleone

Bingo!


19 posted on 07/19/2014 10:58:22 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: BobL

Yet the Russian rebels were fastest of all in blaming themselves for shooting down the plane even before anyone knew it was actually a commercial airliner.


20 posted on 07/19/2014 11:02:32 AM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: BobL

‘The fighters have allowed Emergencies Ministry workers in there, but they do not allow them to take anything from the area. The fighters are taking away all that has been found.’

The rebels have also been accused of looting the corpses of the dead and rifling through their luggage, also by the Ukrainian government.

Anton Gerashchenko, an adviser to the Kiev government, said: ‘I have received information that terrorist death-hunters were collecting not only cash and jewelery of the crashed Boeing dead passengers but also the credit cards of the victims.

‘Currently, they might as well try to use them in Ukraine or pass them on to Russia.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2697810/Does-Kremlin-black-box-Flight-recorders-said-way-Moscow-Russian-rebels-prevent-OSCE-observers-conducting-investigation.html#ixzz37wV3sBhl

So it appears that the Ukrainian government emergency corps is doing the hard work of bagging the corpses while the Russian-backed rebels are doing what they are famous for —looting them.


21 posted on 07/19/2014 12:05:58 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Corporate Democrat

That’s because they didn’t think anyone other than themselves was listening —


22 posted on 07/19/2014 12:08:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: free_life

Samatha Powers? You all remember her, she’s the one who authored the “responsibilty to protect act” with her buddy Larry Summers. These two clowns are both another couple of Obama criminal friends in just the right places. She is a worse propoganda tool than even the video toting Susan Rice. Ignore these people at every level.


23 posted on 07/19/2014 12:51:23 PM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: rwoodward

She is bang on here. Just what do you claim she has wrong on this issue?


24 posted on 07/19/2014 1:45:04 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Where are the ass ears on the picture?


25 posted on 07/19/2014 10:27:02 PM PDT by EinNYC
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