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McCain: Had I won in 2000, Iraq War might not have happened
CNN's The Lead with Jake Tapper ^ | July 18, 2014 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 07/19/2014 10:25:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, made a surprising suggestion Thursday night: If he had been elected in 2000, there might not have been a war in Iraq.

The Vietnam veteran and former prisoner of war, who lost his race for the GOP nomination that year but went on to become his party’s nominee in 2008, made his comments in a far-reaching interview in CNN and National Journal’s “Politics On Tap” event, after this reporter asked him what would be different if he had won either in 2000 or 2008.

On 2008, McCain said “national security” would be different, and he delineated the many ways he would have done things differently from the victor, President Barack Obama. But when asked about 2000, McCain made the most surprising remarks. “You’ll find this surprising,” he said, “but I think I would’ve been more reluctant to commit American troops.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thelead.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; bush; iraq; johnmccain; mccain; revisionisthistory
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How creative! He invents new ways for me to hate him even more on a daily basis. I thought he had outsourced that to his daughter and Linda.
1 posted on 07/19/2014 10:25:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

uh huh, McCain loves war as long as he gets to act like war leader.


2 posted on 07/19/2014 10:27:15 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More likely we would have been screwed just as bad as we are now, only earlier.


3 posted on 07/19/2014 10:27:28 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He’s right. He would’ve had all our troops fighting in other countries by then.


4 posted on 07/19/2014 10:29:00 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rather than hate him, which runs contrary to the Lord’s commands, let’s pray for him. He seems mentally more unfit as time goes by. He certainly doesn’t seem to have a Christian outlook on life. He’s getting up there. Let’s pray he sets his spiritual house in order before it’s too late.

As to his comments about Iraq, they are dotty. The product of a diseased mind. God can cure that too, if McCain will allow it/ask for it.


5 posted on 07/19/2014 10:30:45 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: dforest
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6 posted on 07/19/2014 10:30:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Be quiet John.


7 posted on 07/19/2014 10:34:27 AM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh blow it out your @$$ mr. song bird of nam.


8 posted on 07/19/2014 10:36:04 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So then he would have ignored the Clinton admin plan to remove saddam from power as well the UN resolution to remove?
Interesting


9 posted on 07/19/2014 10:36:46 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who approved Barack taking us to war againts Gaddafi?

What was our interest?

It led to the murder of our ambassador there in a terrorist attack.

FUJM


10 posted on 07/19/2014 10:37:45 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McPain would have had a non-response to 9/11 handy.


11 posted on 07/19/2014 10:37:56 AM PDT by Darksheare (I don't have a copy. one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: dforest
uh huh, McCain loves war as long as he gets to act like war leader.

Until things go to hell, then he's leading the charge to demand answers.
12 posted on 07/19/2014 10:38:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But, John-—you told us Obama would make a fine president.


13 posted on 07/19/2014 10:39:53 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Notice it’s not, “If I’d won in 2008, this wouldn’t be happening.”

He knows damn well the beating Zero in 2008 was never on the table.


14 posted on 07/19/2014 10:40:19 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I personally wish we had elected Duncan Hunter in 08. That’s one smart and tough guy.


15 posted on 07/19/2014 10:42:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the al Qaeda islamofascists would be standing on the sidewalks outside of Home Depot looking for day labor jobs, right Johnny?!


16 posted on 07/19/2014 10:42:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am sure in his demented, senile war mongering old mind this revisionist history...would have happened...


17 posted on 07/19/2014 10:43:02 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Moron,he is so in love with his ugly self.McCain must stay awake at night dreaming up this kinda stuff..


18 posted on 07/19/2014 10:46:09 AM PDT by PLD
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To: CatherineofAragon

From McCain’s point of view, he is. I will regret to my last breath voting for him [McCain] in’08 and Romney in ‘12. But I finally learned.


19 posted on 07/19/2014 10:46:44 AM PDT by sport
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
McCain's definition of war is, "No hitting in the face, No shooting above the ankle,
and No meanie comments on the battlefield".
20 posted on 07/19/2014 10:48:49 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neva happen, GI.

There was a REASON the primary voters did not flock to you in 2000, and it had nothing to do with warhawk or former prisoner status or anything like that. It went back to the “poor judgment” in the “Keating Five” case. While there was never a conviction of any of the Senators involved, still the tarnish was there, and being close personal friends with Charles Keating, who took down the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association of Irvine, California, proved to be an indelible blot.


21 posted on 07/19/2014 10:50:32 AM PDT by alloysteel (Most people become who they promised they would never be.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
McCain: Had I won in 2000, Iraq War might not have happened

McCain: Had I won in 2000, Iraq War might still have happened

These have exactly the same meaning...

I'm so tired of this soiled freak and his blow-hard 'old faithful' characteristics...

22 posted on 07/19/2014 10:51:17 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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To: cripplecreek

Tough, smart and a thoroughly decent man.

I wish I lived in a country that could elect such a man again.


23 posted on 07/19/2014 10:57:15 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

had he won in 2000......America would now be speaking spanish almost exclusively!!


24 posted on 07/19/2014 10:57:17 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Johnny had his way we’d all be speaking Arabic.


25 posted on 07/19/2014 11:11:02 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Unarmed people cannot defend themselves. America is no longer a Free Country.)
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To: cripplecreek

He is plum plain crazy. Nuff said.


26 posted on 07/19/2014 11:13:39 AM PDT by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How did CNN get an exclusive interview like McCain? (snark)


27 posted on 07/19/2014 11:14:34 AM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain is likely right. I would’ve preferred him to Obama, that is for sure.


28 posted on 07/19/2014 11:17:06 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

FU McAmnesty, you worthless DemocRat.


29 posted on 07/19/2014 11:28:24 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shame on him...


30 posted on 07/19/2014 11:29:43 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: svcw

Too bad Bush didn’t ignore Clinton and the UN.

The winners from the US invasion of Iraq:
1) Iran. Saddam was their enemy. We toppled him and installed a shia gov’t led by longtime friends of Iran, and today Iraq is Iran’s closest ally.

2) China. The Iraq war cost the US more than $1 trillion. We didn’t have the money, with our debt already in the tens of trillions, so we borrowed from China - and printed dollars thru the federal reserve.

3) Islamic Christian-haters. With Saddam’s brutal, heavy hand removed, the Islamist he had repressed started running free across the country - with shias and sunnis killing each other, and jihadists from all factions ganging up against Iraqi’s Christians. Churches were destroyed and Christians were killed or driven out en masse.

By the way, I don’t remember John McCain opposing the invasion of Iraq, so I’m not sure what he’s saying now; doesn’t make sense - but that’s not unusual for him


31 posted on 07/19/2014 11:38:26 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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“I would have preferred him to Obama”

But he’s talking about the difference between him and Bush - i.e., the 2000 election. He says he wouldn’t have done what Bush did, and invade Iraq.

Funny, why didn’t he say so at the time? I don’t remember him opposing Bush’’s invasion.


32 posted on 07/19/2014 11:41:56 AM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

He voted for it twice.


33 posted on 07/19/2014 11:42:31 AM PDT by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We haven’t properly fought a war since WWII.

When you go to war you must be prepared to accept nothing but total victory. You don’t seek “hearts and minds.”

War is vicious, brutal and bloody business. You only go to war when you absolutely must. When you are forced to go to war you must execute war in such a way to secure complete victory as quickly as possible. Anything less increases suffering and is inhumane.


34 posted on 07/19/2014 11:43:01 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He sure wants to get troops involved now...all over the world! He wants troops in the Ukraine.


35 posted on 07/19/2014 11:51:51 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Beowulf9
I would’ve preferred [McCain] to Obama, that is for sure.

This is true ... then again, I'd prefer the guy on the Quaker Oats box over the Empty Suit.
36 posted on 07/19/2014 11:55:25 AM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And we’d all be picking lettuce for $50 an hour.


37 posted on 07/19/2014 12:10:11 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s a map of all the countries McCain wants to bomb:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/09/john-mccain-world-attack-map-syria


38 posted on 07/19/2014 12:11:42 PM PDT by Buck-I-Guy
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Perhaps McCain is thinking we would have been too mired in a war with Serbia to get involved in Iraq.

John McCain armed Kosovo Islamic terrorists

John McCain armed the KLA, Politika

Group tied to al-Qaida backs McCain for prez

39 posted on 07/19/2014 12:17:27 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

IMO - Had the Bush not taken out Iraq as he did, the Caliphate would now be fully established throughout the ME Saddam was a powerful enabler of the radical Islamic forces.


40 posted on 07/19/2014 12:24:14 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Glad somebody besides me remembers that.


41 posted on 07/19/2014 12:24:54 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some one give him his meds and send him to bed


42 posted on 07/19/2014 12:30:03 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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Saddam was a powerful enabler of the radical Islamic forces.

Um, no. Saddam saw such groups as a threat to his power and suppressed them. If you are head of a state that is composed of different ethnic and religious groups, you might be hostile organizations that claim to speak for one religious group in your country and want to join up with people of the same religion outside your borders. They threaten your authority and your power base, so if you're a ruthless tyrant, you deal with them ruthlessly. Is that really so hard to understand?

43 posted on 07/19/2014 12:30:40 PM PDT by x
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To: WilliamIII
By the way, I don’t remember John McCain opposing the invasion of Iraq, so I’m not sure what he’s saying now; doesn’t make sense - but that’s not unusual for him

McCain is saying he's like a lot of people. They went along with Bush and the war, but they wouldn't have conceived of the idea of a war of choice to replace Saddam on their own if it were up to them. I don't know if McCain is really being truthful about this: he likes military engagements an awful lot more than most people. But if what he's saying "doesn't make sense," that can be said about a lot of people when it comes to the Iraq war.

44 posted on 07/19/2014 12:34:08 PM PDT by x
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Shut up Juan, you POS.


45 posted on 07/19/2014 12:39:01 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: x; elpadre

Saddam kept the Islamists in prison, brutally repressed, or executed. That’s why Osama Bin Laden hated him. When Saddam was removed, the jihadist - both shias and sunnis - were free to go wild, with a civil war in which they slaughtered each other - and in which they jointly went after the country’s Christians, who had been relatively safe during Saddam’s years.

The big winner from the Iraq war: Iran. Saddam had been their enemy. the new gov’t that we put in, is their friend.


46 posted on 07/19/2014 12:47:46 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

A-1 truth.


47 posted on 07/19/2014 12:48:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: sport

I’m with you. I learned my lesson. No more voting for liberals, no matter what letter follows their names.


48 posted on 07/19/2014 1:02:26 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: 5th MEB

I think of it every time I see his face on my TV screen. It makes me want to leap through it and throttle him.


49 posted on 07/19/2014 1:03:19 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good, now I can blame his losing for every wrong since 2000.


50 posted on 07/19/2014 1:04:56 PM PDT by bgill
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