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Graveyard of desecration: Grave robbers. Ghoulish tourists taking pictures on their mobiles....
dailymail.co.uk ^ | July 19, 2014 | IAN BIRRELL

Posted on 07/19/2014 2:24:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Several human victims were still stuck in their seats. Others were mangled, mashed and hideously manipulated. I saw a leg, a battered trunk, a twisted hand reaching out from the grass and things more gruesome than I ever want to recall.

In a burned patch of grass littered with charred debris lay five crumpled corpses in a heap.

Nearby were boarding passes, a smashed computer, a school book, piles of clothes, a box of chocolates – although bizarrely, two bottles of duty-free whisky had survived.

One can only imagine the terror with which these 298 passengers plummeted to earth – should they have been unfortunate enough to have still been alive – after their passenger plane was seemingly struck by a powerful military weapon.

There are many circles of obscenity around this mass murder, almost certainly caused by a missile fired by crowing pro-Russian rebels armed, funded and trained by Moscow. But perhaps the ultimate insult is that even in death these poor people were denied dignity.

So their devastated and dishevelled bodies were left in the baking summer heat, exposed to the elements for three days while uniformed goons with guns stole from their suitcases and then stopped international observers trying to solve the mystery of their deaths.

Meanwhile, the pro-Russian rebels who most likely caused this terrible carnage treated an international crime scene with as much respect as a tourist site, allowing motley groups of paramilitaries and the growing media army to trample around some of the aircraft debris.

Perhaps the most sickening sight was a young male passenger whose body had been retrieved from a corn field and placed in a black body bag. But no one bothered to close it, so he lay there naked next to the road, his underpants around his legs.

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1 posted on 07/19/2014 2:24:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

All of the Ukraine is a s***hole. My grandfather got out a hundred years ago. Thank God!


2 posted on 07/19/2014 2:31:57 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Tailgunner Joe
As horrible as this story is with the thugs rifling through the baggage and all the desecration - the memory that will stay with me is the smiling and laughing asshole Obama as he deplaned AF1 after his Delaware hamburger feast and the smiling and laughing asshole Air Force officer who greeted him at the bottom of the stairs.

Those two are no better that the Russian goons at the crash site -

3 posted on 07/19/2014 2:46:34 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: atc23

Putin’s sycophants would have us believe that Obama is hellbent on blaming Russia for this atrocity and the universal scorn being heaped upon Putin is some kind of Obama-led conspiracy.

The truth is that Obama couldn’t care less. He’s exactly what he appears to be, an ignorant imbecile.


4 posted on 07/19/2014 2:52:30 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: atc23
a... the laughing AF officer is probably bucking for a promotion.
5 posted on 07/19/2014 2:59:50 PM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 84)
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To: willibeaux

Probably doesn’t even have enough pride to object to be called “boy” by His Arrogance.


6 posted on 07/19/2014 3:12:56 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Could Warren Buffet's oil trains be considered mobile Jihadist weapons of mass distruction?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Graveyard of desecration: Grave robbers. Ghoulish tourists taking pictures on their mobiles....

This is a truly complex subject, and reasonable people can have widely divergent views on judging the behavior.

There are profound cultural issues, as well as foreign (in the widest sense) economic and social norms. I seriously doubt that "political correctness" is a driving force in the local society. Hell, the same can be said of most rural areas of Germany, France and Spain, from personal experience.

For example, it can be assumed that in the U.S., Canada and GB, everyone, pretty much everywhere, is aware that it is critical and essential to maintain an aircraft accident scene as untouched as possible to collect, analyze, evaluate and to use for future safety regulations the results of everything about an accident. That would include the precise location and condition of the smallest bit of debris and human body parts.

Clearly, in that area of Ukraine no such cultural awareness exists. There is no maliciousness in their ignorant behavior.

What is malicious, and firmly in the area of criminal behavior is the political behavior of the political and military leadership. They make Obama "transparency" look like kindergarten stuff.

7 posted on 07/19/2014 3:15:39 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Dr. Ursus
All of the Ukraine is a s***hole. My grandfather got out a hundred years ago. Thank God!

My kin tell me that about Germany...

8 posted on 07/19/2014 3:28:40 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

at 33K feet the passengers had only moments of consciousness if they survived the blast and tearing apart of the aircraft

Putin is a first class a$$hole for not sending in forces to take charge of the crime scene and secure the dignity of those innocents against the barbarous vultures he considers countrymen


9 posted on 07/19/2014 3:42:34 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: silverleaf

It’s not Putin’s country.


10 posted on 07/19/2014 3:56:57 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf

He doesnt seem to have much trouble moving troops and equipment across the border. Dip wad.


11 posted on 07/19/2014 4:01:25 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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I read an article about the effect of the falling plane on the village below. Two days later, a woman was still waiting for authorities to take away the body that had fallen through her roof.

They want to run the world, but they can’t collect bodies in a timely manner?


12 posted on 07/19/2014 4:18:30 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: silverleaf; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: Putin is a first class a$$hole for not sending in forces to take charge of the crime scene and secure the dignity of those innocents against the barbarous vultures he considers countrymen

While I agree completely that Vlad is beyond the pale... I cannot help consider how our fearless leader will surely find a fund raiser to take his mind off such a terrible tragedy.

It seems today's first class a$$holes... come in pairs--

13 posted on 07/19/2014 4:21:28 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: silverleaf; ncalburt
Putin is a first class a$$hole for not sending in forces to take charge of the crime scene and secure the dignity of those innocents against the barbarous vultures he considers countrymen

Some here believe he is a first class Clymer for doing precisely what you say he didn't...

It’s not Putin’s country.

No it isn't, is it?

14 posted on 07/19/2014 4:26:24 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Lurker

Official troops are one thing. Unofficial mercs and TDY officers are something else. Putin still needs to maintain the facade that there’s a popular uprising in eastern Ukraine. What’s happening is neither an uprising or popular.

Got that?


15 posted on 07/19/2014 4:35:06 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Tailgunner Joe

A perfect example of the sh**hole the world has become. Homosexual “marriage” fits right in.


16 posted on 07/19/2014 4:41:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The future must not belong to those who slander bacon.)
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To: meatloaf

That fig leaf got ripped away when the goons he armed and supports murdered 298 people and then bragged about it. The blood of all those people is on Putins hands. Got that?


17 posted on 07/19/2014 4:43:57 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: publius911
What are talking about.

The Russian's stole the black boxes from the crash site and are hiding them Moscow to stop the investigation.

Its called Russian dictator thuggery.

These are Russian military swat teams in the black masks .preventing the dead from being removed for Two days.

There were 22 grade school, kids on that plane,

look at the Russian thugs in the black masks!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
look at the innocent dead here!
there is no misunderstanding.
its called a cover up.

18 posted on 07/19/2014 5:33:55 PM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: Lurker

I never thought otherwise. If you’d like to put your money where your mouth is, I can connect you to a group that’s doing something about Putin’s thugs.


19 posted on 07/19/2014 6:03:13 PM PDT by meatloaf
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To: meatloaf

Feel free to PM me with details. Thanks.


20 posted on 07/19/2014 6:03:51 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: meatloaf
that's a copout
the territory is controlled by Russian clients
the launchers that downed the airliner sneaked back into Russia-there are videos
Are you suggesting Putin is powerless to intervene?
Spetznaz forces could get involved and improve the manners of those clients and allow international recovery and humanitarian teams to do their job
21 posted on 07/19/2014 7:06:33 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: publius911

I tend to agree with you. In man parts of the world life is simply cheap.


22 posted on 07/19/2014 7:14:41 PM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: silverleaf; Bender2; BillyBoy

He has no business sending forces into Ukrainian territory.

He’s @$$h0le for arming these terrorist scum in first place.


23 posted on 07/19/2014 9:22:07 PM PDT by Impy (Think for yourself)
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To: silverleaf

I’m not sure how you’re defining cop out. There are rumors the Spetsnaz are part of the problem in Ukraine. Putin is riding high in the Russian popularity polls because he controls the media meaning what information gets to the Russian public.

I am familiar with one family with members in Russia and Ukraine that have been deeply divided by the differing opinions. The ones living in Moscow believe the Russian media while the ones in Ukraine see something completely different. They’ve stopped speaking to each other.

Putin is not going to do anything to back track now. Putin is not powerless. He is disinclined to do anything that directly harms his mercenaries in Ukraine. He may abandon them which may have already happened. He can do that without undercutting his support in Russia since he’s always claimed, in Russia, the mercenaries he recruited and equipped are Ukrainian separatists.


24 posted on 07/20/2014 11:16:51 AM PDT by meatloaf
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