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HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH TAKES TO THE WATER AS NEW CARRIER IS MOVED FOR FIRST TIME
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Posted on 07/19/2014 3:28:37 PM PDT by Smartisan

Britain’s biggest ever warship HMS Queen Elizabeth took to the water for the first time today as she was moved out of dry dock.

Rosyth, UK – With just two metres to spare at either side of the 65,000-tonne aircraft carrier, a flotilla of tugs inched the ship from the dock where she was constructed at Rosyth, near Edinburgh, to a neighbouring jetty where she’ll be completed over the next two years.

After a two-day operation to flood the cavernous dry dock, tugs began the delicate task of moving the leviathan in her entirety for the first time at dawn today.

It took just three hours to complete the ‘float out’ – an operation which took place 13 days after Her Majesty the Queen officially named the vessel in a spectacular ceremony.

(Excerpt) Read more at globalaviationreport.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: nojets
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1 posted on 07/19/2014 3:28:37 PM PDT by Smartisan
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2 posted on 07/19/2014 3:29:56 PM PDT by Smartisan
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To: Smartisan; Jeff Head

Where are the training wheels?


3 posted on 07/19/2014 3:32:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Smartisan

If Scotland goes independent where will the UK build their ships?


4 posted on 07/19/2014 3:32:41 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Plenty of big drydocks in Belfast.


5 posted on 07/19/2014 3:33:54 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: Edward Teach

good news then!


6 posted on 07/19/2014 3:34:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Smartisan

What a beautiful ship!


7 posted on 07/19/2014 3:38:39 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: rlmorel
ping...
8 posted on 07/19/2014 3:42:54 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Smartisan
wondering why does this aircraft carrier, not have an
angled deck & 4 catapults for launching ops?
..all jump-jets/helo? ..no straight/linear planes?

9 posted on 07/19/2014 3:43:09 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Jihadist/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: Smartisan

How long before Michigan State schedules a game on its deck?


10 posted on 07/19/2014 3:45:34 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: skinkinthegrass

There’s more than one way to cook an egg.


11 posted on 07/19/2014 3:48:22 PM PDT by Smartisan
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To: Smartisan

This thing looks like a barge or maybe a pre WW2 carrier, what a waste of 65,000 lbs.


12 posted on 07/19/2014 3:53:30 PM PDT by GT1945
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To: Edward Teach

“Plenty of big drydocks in Belfast.”

Harland & Wolff...


13 posted on 07/19/2014 3:53:32 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: skinkinthegrass
wondering why does this aircraft carrier, not have an
angled deck & 4 catapults for launching ops?
..all jump-jets/helo? ..no straight/linear planes?


14 posted on 07/19/2014 3:55:26 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: Smartisan; All
true..but do the jump-jets have the range req'd? ..or are radar-
guided missiles/projectiles enough for force projection.?

15 posted on 07/19/2014 3:57:02 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: moose07
nice jump-jet..not F-35?

16 posted on 07/19/2014 3:59:15 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: flaglady47
I was a little worried it might be an ugly duckling in the water, but from most angles it actually looks pretty spectacular. Viewed from its starboard side I thought it bore a resemblence to the Italian carrier Cavour.
17 posted on 07/19/2014 4:00:16 PM PDT by Smartisan
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To: skinkinthegrass

F-35B
They have “every confidence” in its capabilities.
Hope those Harriers are in mothballs somewhere.


18 posted on 07/19/2014 4:01:37 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Probably not for US purposes, but for UK more than enough to waltz around the Med looking pretty, scaring the Spaniards, and defending the unmentionable isles in the South Atlantic.


19 posted on 07/19/2014 4:03:51 PM PDT by Smartisan
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To: Smartisan

Thank you for not mentioning the Unmentionables. :)


20 posted on 07/19/2014 4:05:25 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: moose07; All
they said, that about the F-4, too...until the N. Vietnam came callin'
the F-4 needed some non- missile firepower..no criticism indended.

21 posted on 07/19/2014 4:08:32 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Quite agreed.
The F35A comes with a 25mm cannon, so presumably the B does as well.
If not the Aden 30mm should fit underneath just nicely. The Harrier used to carry two with ease.


22 posted on 07/19/2014 4:21:22 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: GT1945
Agree. Its kind of a clumsy looking thing.

Britain used to make elegant warships.

23 posted on 07/19/2014 4:24:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
http://c69011.r11.cf3.rackcdn.com/b5306960e671493db55e5085d80edb45-0x0.jpg
24 posted on 07/19/2014 4:35:30 PM PDT by Smartisan
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To: Smartisan
True the front quarter is the best view.

But any ship looks good from that angle:)

25 posted on 07/19/2014 4:39:18 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter

Go on, I’ll give you that ;)


26 posted on 07/19/2014 4:46:45 PM PDT by Smartisan
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To: Smartisan

Promptly sank.


27 posted on 07/19/2014 4:50:42 PM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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Queen Elizabeth took to the water for the first time today as she was moved out of dry dock


28 posted on 07/19/2014 4:54:28 PM PDT by mikrofon (Her Warship)
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To: GT1945

Your first post and that is the best you could come up with? Pretty pathetic, dude.


29 posted on 07/19/2014 5:03:45 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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To: GT1945
65,000 lbs.

Oops ... that's only 32.5 tons.

30 posted on 07/19/2014 5:15:18 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: GT1945

Welcome to FR.
I take it you’re cool with the remaining 143,234,000 lbs.


31 posted on 07/19/2014 5:29:03 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: BIV

“I take it you’re cool with the remaining 143,234,000 lbs.”

:-)

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32 posted on 07/19/2014 5:32:23 PM PDT by Mears
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To: OldNavyVet

I was using metric tonnage, one of which weighs 2,204.6 lbs.


33 posted on 07/19/2014 5:33:19 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: moose07

Nope, they got sold to the USMC for spares back in 2011...


34 posted on 07/19/2014 5:36:17 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

At least they went to a good home.


35 posted on 07/19/2014 5:42:50 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: skeeter

I thot the Germans had the elegant ships ?


36 posted on 07/19/2014 5:44:40 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: aumrl

I was wondering how many of the subs in the pictures are operational ?


37 posted on 07/19/2014 5:47:49 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Smartisan

When will the quals begin for the a/c?

5.56mm


38 posted on 07/19/2014 5:50:51 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: GT1945
what a waste of 65,000 lbs.

Pounds?

39 posted on 07/19/2014 5:54:27 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: moose07

I know this is family hour, but according to zero, the “unmentionables” are called the Maldives, a group of islands off the coast of India. So, in an attempt to snub the UK, zero, once again, showed his ignorance.


40 posted on 07/19/2014 5:54:57 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: GT1945

tons?


41 posted on 07/19/2014 5:56:03 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

> Pounds?

I think that’s Sterling. Don’t know how many shillings that would be or it is before or after decimalization. ;-)


42 posted on 07/19/2014 6:11:44 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: BIV

LOL, ‘you’ really couldn’t make him sound convincing as a character in a thriller novel.
I don’t believe it is ignorance, he does it too often and too well, it is an infantile attempt at being clever.
As long as we all know he’s a prat, we can all laugh at him together. :)


43 posted on 07/19/2014 6:15:04 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: Smartisan

needs a ramp to launch aircraft, and it won’t be operational with aircraft until.......2020

I’m not so impressed.

but then, it’s not so clear that the UK has any use for aircraft carriers anymore


44 posted on 07/19/2014 7:54:35 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: GeronL
I have a Flickr Album on the E Class.

Here are some of my pics there:






45 posted on 07/19/2014 10:00:36 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

Why 2 islands? It seems a bit strange.


46 posted on 07/19/2014 10:01:47 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Smartisan
That is the Italian Carrier Cavour.

See Wold-wide Aircraft Carriers

47 posted on 07/19/2014 10:03:01 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head

very nice pics


48 posted on 07/19/2014 10:05:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Two reasons.

1) separate operations. Manuevering forward, air ops aft.

2) Redundancy. They are both wired to handle both operations. If a SSM takes out one, they can operate with the other.

Expensive...but worthwhile if you can afford it, both financially and in terms of deck space. The Royal Navy decided it could.


49 posted on 07/19/2014 10:05:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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Three Reasons

3) For survivabilty the gas turbine plant is separated, two islands allow shortest in hull ducting for the exhaust.

50 posted on 07/19/2014 10:22:53 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Wikipedia is wrong. who knew?)
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