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Democrats may lose Hope in Arkansas despite Clinton legacy
LA Times ^ | By Lisa Mascaro

Posted on 07/20/2014 2:06:26 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

Much has changed since Bill Clinton grew up in this sleepy Arkansas town.

The former Clinton home is now a well-appointed museum. The old two-lane road in front grew into a bustling artery leading to a Wal-Mart. Across the street sits a taco truck, whose owner, immigrant Elvia Bello, sells her famous tamales to the small but growing Latino population in the once-segregated community.

But perhaps the biggest change of all in a state that once had reliably elected Democrats is the sandwich-board sign on a corner with hand-painted letters announcing: "Tea Party Meeting 4th Thursday 7 p.m."

This busy intersection near the old Clinton homestead reflects a state at a crossroads. Far from the one that gave the nation its 42nd president, Arkansas has caught up with the political shift of its Southern neighbors. Now, even a place called Hope is no longer a Democratic stronghold, but an increasingly Republican one.

A fiery Republican populism is taking hold in many parts of this state, a transformation that by the end of this year could help determine which party controls the U.S. Senate.

The road to a Republican Senate majority cuts directly through Arkansas and other Southern states where Democratic incumbents are struggling to hold on to their seats. Sen. Mary L. Landrieu in Louisiana and Sen. Kay Hagan in North Carolina are facing stiff challenges from Republicans, who need a net gain of six Senate seats to flip the chamber in November.

The Arkansas target is Sen. Mark Pryor, one of a handful of remaining Southern Democrats, remnants of a once-thriving breed of plain-speaking moderates whose ranks began shrinking during the party's embrace of the civil rights movement in the 1960s and have accelerated into near-extinction after six years under President Obama.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
A lot of crap in this article, unsurprisingly.

Start with the headline -- Democrats may lose Hope despite Clinton legacy. Make that because of

The brick works are gone. The handle factory is gone. Several of the downtown businesses present 20 years ago are gone. Can you say outsourcing?

The old two-lane road in front grew into a bustling artery leading to a Wal-Mart. Actually, the house/museum was moved. Also, "the old two-lane road" led to a Wal-Mart when Clinton was president.

even a place called Hope is no longer a Democratic stronghold Except that all local officials are Democrat. Winning the Democrat primary in Hempstead County wins the election.

in the picturesque Magnolia Blossom Festival Parade, just outside Hope Yeah, an hour away (40-45 miles). Practically a suburb of Hope -- NOT.

I won't comment on Professor Barth's racist BS except to say that the resort to name-calling is commonly evidence of an inability to address the facts.

holding on to white voters with an appeal to pocketbook concerns. Killing jobs and practically doubling the national debt makes a compelling argument for support.

while broadening enthusiasm among African Americans and Latino voters. Because racism is the only thing they have to offer.

1 posted on 07/20/2014 2:06:26 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin
DESPITE the Clinton "legacy"?

For those who may have forgotten what kind of a President Bill Clinton was:

1) Clinton’s own words show his often expressed innate hostility to, and utter contempt for, the core principles of the American founding:

``If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution inhibit the government’s ability to govern the people, we should look to limit those guarantees.’’ -- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993

``The purpose of government is to reign in the rights of the people’’ –- Bill Clinton during an interview on MTV in 1993

``We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans…that we forget about reality.’’ -- President Bill Clinton, quoted in USA Today, March 11, 1993, Page 2A, ``NRA change: `Omnipotent to powerful’’’ by Debbie Howlett

“When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly… that they would work for the common good, as well as for the individual welfare… However, now there’s a lot of irresponsibility. And so a lot of people say there’s too much freedom. When personal freedom’s being abused, you have to move to limit it.” – Bill Clinton, April 19, 1995

2) Clinton inevitably pursued his own political advantage at the expense of American interests and national security. Here is just one of many possible examples:

It is well documented that Clinton and the Democrats took illegal campaign money from groups and individuals tied directly to the Chinese People’s Republican Army. It is therefore not surprising that In January 1998 Clinton went against the advice of then-Secretary of State Warren Christopher and Pentagon experts by lifting long-standing restrictions against the export of American satellites to China for launch on Chinese rockets. Not only did he move control over such decisions from the more security-focused State Department to the Commerce Department, but he intervened in a Justice Department investigation of Loral Space & Communications, retroactively enabling Loral to sell critical missile technology to the Chinese. Interestingly enough, Clinton’s decision was made at the request of Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz, whose earlier $1.3 million campaign donation made him the single biggest contributor to the Democratic election effort.

The result, as stated eloquently by syndicated columnist Linda Bowles, was that “the Democrats got money from satellite companies and from Chinese communists; China got supercomputors, advanced production equipment and missile technology; Loral got its satellites launched at bargain basement prices . . . and the transfer of sensitive missile technology gave China [for the first time] the capability of depositing bombs on American cities.” Incidentally, Loral ultimately failed to benefit from this permanent injury to America’s security interests: in July 2003, the company filed for bankruptcy protection, and in order to raise cash was forced to sell its most profitable business – a fleet of communications satellites orbiting over North America.

3) On two occasions, Clinton used military action for the specific purpose of distracting the American public from the fallout of the Lewinsky affair:

• On August 20, three days after Clinton finally admitted publicly to the Lewinsky affair, the news media was poised to focus on that day’s grand jury testimony by Monica Lewinsky. That same morning, Clinton personally went on national television to gravely announce his bombing of a Sudanese “chemical weapons factory,” and a terrorist training camp in Afghanistan. It was the first time most Americans ever heard the name of Osama bin Laden. The factory bombing in Sudan killed an innocent night watchman, but accomplished little else. It later was proven that the plant was making badly needed pharmaceuticals for people in that poverty-stricken part of the world, but no chemical weapons.

Several months later, the U.S. Center for Nonproliferation Studies, part of the Monterey Institute of International Studies, stated: "...the evidence indicates that the facility had no role whatsoever in chemical weapons development." Kroll Associates, one of the world's most reputable investigative firms, also confirmed that there was no link in any way between the plant and any terrorist organization. As for the Afghanistan bombing, it failed to do any damage at all to bin Laden or his organization. Clinton’s action was accurately characterized by George W. Bush when he said right after 9-11: "When I take action, I’m not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt.

Clinton’s pointless and murderous military actions did not make Americans safer that day, although they did destroy an innocent life, and for all the good they did certainly could have been delayed in any case. But they did succeed in diverting media attention from Lewinsky’s grand jury testimony for a 24-hour news cycle, which was the main point. So I guess, they weren’t a total loss.

•On December 16, 1998, on the eve of the scheduled House vote on his impeachment, Bill Clinton launched a surprise bombing attack on Baghdad. As justification for this exploit, he cited the urgent threat that Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction posed to America, and the need for immediate action. Almost immediately, the House Democrats held a caucus and emerged calling for a delay in the impeachment proceedings. House minority leader Dick Gephardt made a statement: "We obviously should pass a resolution by saying that we stand behind the troops. I would hope that we do not take up impeachment until the hostilities have completely ended."

Conveniently, a delay so near the end of the House term would have caused the vote to be taken up in the next session – when the newly elected House membership would be seated with more Democratic representation, thereby improving Clinton’s chances of dodging impeachment.

The Republicans did, in fact, agree to delay the hearings, but only for a day or two. Amazingly, Clinton ended the bombing raid after only 70 hours -- once it became clear that in spite of the brief delay, the vote would still be held in the current session.

Once the bombing stopped, Clinton touted the effectiveness and importance of the mission. As reported by ABC News : “We have inflicted significant damage on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction programs, on the command structures that direct and protect that capability, and on his military and security infrastructure,” he said. Defense secretary William Cohen echoed the point: “We estimate that Saddam's missile program has been set back by at least a year.”

Whether or not one buys Clinton’s assessment of that mission, it is difficult to believe that its timing was so critical that it required commencement virtually at the moment the House was scheduled to vote on the impeachment. I think the most reasonable conclusion is that Clinton cynically deployed US military assets and placed military personnel in harm’s way for purely political reasons.

4) Clinton’s reckless sexual behavior was a threat to American national security:

Clinton and his supporters have been very effective in persuading large numbers of Americans that the Lewinsky scandal was “only about sex.” But I see a bigger issue here, because Clinton is on record as saying that he would have done anything to keep knowledge of the Lewinsky affair from becoming public.

To me, that statement raises a very serious question: What if, instead of sending her recorded Lewinsky conversations to Ken Starr, Linda Tripp had instead secretly offered them for sale, say, to the Chinese government? Or to the Russians? Or even to agents of Saddam?

What kind of blackmail leverage would those tapes have provided to a foreign government in dealing with America on sensitive trade, security or military issues? One of the few things Clinton ever said that I believe is that he would have done anything to keep the Lewinsky affair secret. Given his demonstrated track record of selling out American interests for personal or political gain (and there are more examples that I could have cited here), how far would he have gone in compromising America’s real interests in order to protect his own neck when threatened with blackmail?

Pretty far, I believe. Equally distressing is the prospect Clinton might, in fact, have succumbed to foreign black mail on other occasions in order to hide different sexual episodes that ultimately did not become public. There is no way to know, of course, but I prefer presidents for whom such a scenario is not a plausible possibility.

And don’t even get me started on the war crime in Kosovo.


During Bill Clinton’s 1999 NATO-led war in Kosovo – which according to some estimates cost as much as $75 billion – we bombed Belgrade for 78 days, killed almost 3,000 civilians, and shredded the civilian infrastructure (including every bridge across the Danube.)

We devastated the environment, bombed the Chinese embassy, came very close to engaging in armed combat against Russian forces, and in general, pursued a horrific and inhumane strategy to rain misery on the civilian population of Belgrade in order to pressure Milosevic into surrendering.

Why did we do all that? The US did not even have an arguable interest in the Balkans, and no one ever tried to claim that Serbia represented any kind of threat to our nation or our interests.

But for months the Clinton administration had told us that Milosevic was waging a vicious genocide against Albanian Muslims, and needed to be stopped. The New York Times called it a “humanitarian war.” In March 1999 – the same month that the bombing started – Clinton’s State Department publicly suggested that as many as 500,000 Albanian Kosovars had been murdered by Milosevic’s regime. In May of that year, as the bombing campaign was drawing to a close, Secretary of Defense William Cohen lowered that estimate 100,000.

Five years after the bombing, after all the forensic investigations had been completed, the prosecutors at Milosevic’s “War Crimes” trial in the Hague were barely been able to document a questionable figure of perhaps 5,000 “bodies and body parts.” During the war, the American people were told that Kosovo was full of mass graves filled with the bodies of murdered Albanian Muslims. But none were ever found.


During the election cycle of 1992, George H.W. Bush lost his job after Bill Clinton hammered him relentlessly for having caused the “worst economy of the last 50 years.”

In fact, as CNN’s Brooke Jackson has reported: “Three days before Christmas 1992, the National Bureau of Economic Research finally issued its official proclamation that the recession had ended 21 months earlier. What became the longest boom in U.S. history actually began nearly two years before Clinton took office.” See (See

By the same token, Clinton is generally perceived as having a stellar economic record during his own presidency, in spite of the fact that the economy was already starting to decline during the last year of his term after the stock market crashed in March 2000.

According to a report by MSNBC: “The longest economic expansion in U.S. history faltered so much in the summer of 2000 that business output actually contracted for one quarter, the government said Wednesday in releasing a comprehensive revision of the gross domestic product. Based on new data, the Commerce Department said that the GDP — the country’s total output of goods and services — shrank by 0.5 percent at an annual rate in the July-September quarter of 2000.” See:

2 posted on 07/20/2014 2:15:40 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: DeaconBenjamin
Much has changed since Bill Clinton grew up in this sleepy Arkansas town.

Bill Clinton grew up in Hot Springs, not Hope. The action in Hot Springs was much better suited to his mother, Virginia.

3 posted on 07/20/2014 2:21:46 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Yet Bill Clinton’s momma got him into Hot Springs schools as soon as he was old enough. So much for HOPE.

As for the Dems, remember what happened to Blanche Lincoln after she promised to vote against Obamacare then voted for it. The Old heave ho!

Now it’s Mark Pryor’s turn to be given the old heave ho, and good riddance to him!

4 posted on 07/20/2014 2:23:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

The “Man from Hope” is really the man from Hot Springs. Born in Hope in 1946, then moved with his mother to Hot Springs in 1950 at age four. Hot Springs, the home of horse racing, illegal gambling and the Dixie Mafia in those days.

Who remembers anything from age four and younger? Fake and dishonest like everything about the Clintons. But that sure never stopped the lap dog media from lapping it up.

5 posted on 07/20/2014 2:34:15 PM PDT by Will88
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“Much has changed since Bill Clinton grew up in this sleepy Arkansas town.”

As Rush has pointed out, he grew up in Hot Springs (prostitute town). He only lived in Hope until he was 4 years old.

But I suspect the author doesn’t even know this.

6 posted on 07/20/2014 2:37:40 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

Liberals don’t bother with pesky details like facts.

7 posted on 07/20/2014 2:50:06 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

“My lefty friends all like to point to race as an issue, and I’m not going to deny that. There is a percentage of it that is race.”

They must have some polling on this line, as they use it all the time. It probably has to do with people on the fence, that are scared to death of being called a racist.

8 posted on 07/20/2014 2:53:07 PM PDT by BobL
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Clinton was found in contempt by an Arkansas court and then later disbarred. He accepted both punishments. Why should his legacy help the Democrats?

9 posted on 07/20/2014 3:01:55 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin
...even a place called Hope is no longer a Democratic stronghold Except that all local officials are Democrat. Winning the Democrat primary in Hempstead County wins the election.

You're right - the writer's doing subtle 'racist name calling'.

I lived in the Jim Crow South... all the racist democrats (except Maddox) stayed Democrats. The only modern day member of the Klan that served in Congress was Sen. Byrd... a democrat. His KKK membership was something the press failed to mention to blacks for decades... Odd how they missed that...

When Republicans moved South in the 50's and 60's they registered as Democrat because the South was a one party system. If you wanted your vote to count - wanted to vote in a primary of the party that won ALL the elections - you had to be a 'democrat'.

10 posted on 07/20/2014 3:06:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize-Voltaire)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Oursoucing is what big business does. They take over small business and then close them down. A small business won’t close because they know what would happen to a town.

11 posted on 07/20/2014 3:37:45 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Maceman

Maceman This was a great comment! Comments like this, with detail and citations are what makes F/R the best site to go to for the truth.

12 posted on 07/21/2014 11:53:44 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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