Posted on 07/20/2014 7:04:41 PM PDT by Steelers6
A new poll shows conservative Dr. Milton Wolf (R-KS) surging in the Republican primary against incumbent Senator Pat Roberts.
The survey shows Roberts with only a 42-30 lead over Wolf, which is a stunning 21-point drop since the last poll taken three weeks ago!
Dr. Milton Wolf's message of limited government, personal freedom, economic liberty, and respect for the Constitution is resonating with voters.
Roberts is endorsed by Kansans for Life. I’ll vote for him. For some reason I don’t trust Wolf.
My whole point is that you're expecting a healthy defense of ideas and vigorous debate from other FReepers, but you don't expect the same from your candidate. If Roberts has so much going for him, he ought to stand up and defend his record. His failure to do so makes for very poor optics in a time when people are getting fed up with insiders with a sense of entitlement to the seats they've been elected to fill.
Agree 100%. Time for the old guard to go.
Actually, Roberts wasn’t an unknown when he ran in 1980 for the House. He was the leading candidate and heir apparent to the retiring incumbent, Keith Sebelius. I’d dare say folks knew well about Roberts more so than Wolf now.
You’re not going to catch me disagreeing with you on dumping the party establishment, but I want something assuring me we’re going to have a reliable foot soldier for the cause.
Remember, Wolf is the challenger. Roberts’ record is on the record. He’s playing it the same way many incumbents do, not wanting to give more exposure to the challenger (yes, it’s frustrating, but he’s not the only one to do it. Many good members and bad members alike often refuse to debate).
I again find it odd that no one here yet can outline anything substantive about Wolf, and this has been a problem for months since he declared. I do give a lot of attention to challengers (especially in these times when so many need to be ousted from power), but there’s nothing that stands out about him that says “this is the guy that MUST be elected.” Many of the challengers to the worst offending RINO incumbents DID have something that spelled it out, but Wolf just doesn’t seem to (and playing up his relations to Zero is simply bizarre).
“You’re not going to catch me disagreeing with you on dumping the party establishment, but I want something assuring me we’re going to have a reliable foot soldier for the cause.”
At this point in time, I’m fresh out of “assurances” about anyone! I’ve been disappointed by the best of them. When Arnold the Awful ran for governor here in California when we recalled Gray Davis, I wanted to have Tom McClintock replace him. But when Arnold walked in and stole the show, I was pragmatic and voted for him. Talk about a dumb SOB. The only thing he did was knock out a kid with his maid!
All Roberts needs is an ad with Bob Dole endorsing him, and all he can expect is victory. KS people are incumbency-friendly too.
He’s not a turd, AT ALL, he’s a conservative Senator. WOLF, may be a turd, can’t know for sure because he’s a nobody with no record.
These are not the droids you’re looking for. I suggest you turn you attention to the race is in Tennessee.
Hey, I was right here on FR 11 years ago warning the alarm bells on that fiasco known as the Austrian Socialist. I knew he would be dreadful, only that he exceeded my expectations in execrableness. I said if McClintock wasn’t to be elected, better just to keep Off-White Davis, since Ah-nold would end up making Davis look like a Conservative.
That’s why I’m always warning folks that when you’re wanting to replace somebody with someone else, NEVER say the phrase, “ANYONE but...” because you’re likely to be in for a shock. There’s always someone worse than the incumbent, especially if you don’t know much about the challenger.
Try telling that to Sheila Frahm.
“That’s why I’m always warning folks that when you’re wanting to replace somebody with someone else, NEVER say the phrase, “ANYONE but...” because you’re likely to be in for a shock. There’s always someone worse than the incumbent, especially if you don’t know much about the challenger.”
So just what is it about Wolf that puts a burr under your saddle? That seems to be where you are with this issue. You know what you will get with Roberts. He doesn’t give a $hit about Kansas, other than kissing your butts right now so he can keep his seat. As you say, with Wolf, there is no demonstrable track record, but are there issues on which you disagree with his stated positions? And if so, what are the specifics?
Well, I’m not in Kansas, so it’s not like I have a say... I’ve basically said repeatedly that Wolf simply hasn’t met the threshold to support him beyond “I’m not Roberts.” I don’t much care what they say, people will say anything to get elected, I want to know what this guy has done. Nobody has ever answered that question here.
“WOLF, may be a turd, can’t know for sure because he’s a nobody with no record.”
So does that make him “ineligible” for public office in your view?
“Well, I’m not in Kansas, so it’s not like I have a say...”
Me neither. I’m just interested is seeing what it takes to get people to vote for new blood when it’s so obvious that a change is long overdue. It’s either that, or the “interested parties” here on FR who seemingly do live in KS, for whatever reason, still “love” Pat Roberts. Here we are, part of a blog that is supposed to be in favor of Constitutional Government, and yet there are many who are unwilling to part with “political leadership” that by it’s very existence, mocks the intent of the founding fathers. Thus far, all I’ve heard from them is that “Pat deserves our continued loyalty.” I guess it makes the case for the notion that all those in congress deserve replacement except my guy, he’s the lone member who should stay on.
Like I said, I tend to lean more towards dumping incumbents, but not just for dumping’s sake. If someone known in Conservative circles or with an established reputation, something, anything, or even friends of those folks who could vouch for the challenger... it’s not happening in this particular contest.
It’s a perfectly simple question, “Who IS Milton Wolf ?” Some are satisfied with the answer, “He is not Pat Roberts.” I and many others aren’t. Milton’s cousin, Zero, ain’t Pat Roberts, either, and we ain’t gonna support him in a GOP primary.
I appreciate challengers to tired incumbents, I do, but I want to know who they are, what they’ve done, and have others (known individuals) who can vouch for their character, integrity, et al. Talk is cheap these days, anyone can say anything to get elected (look at the fools who bought the lie that Willard was a Conservative based on his rhetoric and promises, none of which ever matched his record of leftism in Massachusetts). If they don’t walk the walk, anything else doesn’t matter.
Would you vote for your doctor if he posted a video of your colon-oscopy on you-tube?
Not necessary, but it certainly doesn’t make him someone I’d back over a proven conservative Senator who doesn’t need to be removed at all.
Proven conservative incumbent > Cipher
I don’t care how long Roberts has been there, he’s no Thad Cochran, he’s in top third of Senate Republicans I’d say, that’s not something to throw away for some random guy who thinks Robert’s has been there too long.
OTOH, Lamar Alexander has been there only since 2003, and HE needs to GO.
Yes, he shares DNA with BHO!
And still we wonder why things never change. </sarcasm>
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