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Gov. Rick Perry to deploy 1,000 National Guard troops to RGV
The Monitor ^ | Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:30 pm | Jacob Fischler

Posted on 07/20/2014 9:06:01 PM PDT by bd476

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To: Jet Jaguar


You're welcome and thank you, JJ! :)


101 posted on 07/20/2014 11:16:21 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Plummz

I like obama’s idea - build moats and stock them with alligators - and crocodiles.


102 posted on 07/20/2014 11:20:40 PM PDT by Catsrus (A)
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To: bd476

Watch Zero call up the Texas Guard for duty in Iraq.


103 posted on 07/20/2014 11:32:11 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: Sacajaweau
I hope all the Republicans in the House and Senate rise up and go after Obama to Federalize the troops. Texas shouldn't have to pick up the tab for a Federal Border.

Um, that puts Obama in command of the Texas guard. Is that what you want?

104 posted on 07/20/2014 11:35:29 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (ObamaCare IS Medicaid: They'll pull a sheet over your head and send you the bill.)
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To: SierraWasp
SierraWasp wrote: " 'They're not armed. They're not carrying weapons.'
They're just bringing deadly infectious DISEASES!!! YOU DUMMY!!! Plus, they are NOT SUSTAINABLE and they are being used and abused!!! Pay attention! Who's going to pay for all this deliberately illegal activity that is tacitily approved by our lame-braned coyote-in-chief???"


Infectious diseases from people simply visiting here was already a problem. Cases of whooping cough and tuberculosis have increased in the past ten years according to the CDC.

Then there's this alarming letter written by the Florida State Surgeon General:

Florida State Surgeon General Letter to HHS Regarding Unaccompanied Children
Florida Department of Health ^ | July 18, 2014 | Dr. John H. Armstrong


For full impact, or even to verify for yourself that it's an authentic, urgent request, you might want to take a look at the letter still posted as a one page .PDF file on the Florida Department of Health's website.


105 posted on 07/20/2014 11:40:01 PM PDT by bd476
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To: txrefugee
txrefugee wrote: "We do not need more illegals. We have at least 20 million too many already. Time to deport all of them."
You're right, we don't need any more. Hope this will be a first step of many. First priority is to secure our borders, now. Next step will be to maintain them while also applying a strict enforcement of immigration laws already in place. Deportation of people simply over-staying their visitor visas was still occurring within the past ten years. What happened since is just a guess, probably it's partially due to increased illegal border crossings, some political game-playing against ICE and the C-change are country went through when Obama took up residence in the White House.

One step at a time. We cannot afford to look back, we must go forward, but History teaches us all that progress is made one step at a time.


106 posted on 07/20/2014 11:55:15 PM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

“These are young people, just families coming across. They’re not armed. They’re not carrying weapons.”


Really? How does he know?

If the BLM can send armed guards to the Bundy ranch over a civil matter then its no big deal to have armed guards at the border.


107 posted on 07/21/2014 12:00:31 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: jocon307
he was asking Obama to do this and I didn’t understand why

Obama does it we all pay, Rick does it Texas pays, of course if he doesn't do it Texas still pays, just for other items, related to the invasion.

108 posted on 07/21/2014 12:15:45 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: maine-iac7
maine-iac7 wrote: "in what month? been hearing this for weeks - is he waiting to shut the barn door until after the cows are all out - in this case 'in'? "

Yes, it is very frustrating waiting for years for a change. This is just a first step. Though it is a business, never has any State or Local Government functioned as a typical business, or even major corporation. You and I with a whole Army of raging citizens will never change that fact, ever.

Governor Perry is not stupid, nor is he unaware of the many citizens of his State who are fed up. If anyone can change things, it will be Governor Perry who will at least be the first to get the ball rolling in the right direction. And if Governor Perry hasn't already, I know that he can find the means to implement a corporation-type fix which will still seem slow for those who have never worked in government but it will seem lightning quick for those who have worked in government.

Maybe instead of us throwing stones, it's time to instead offer up a prayer for God to give Governor Perry strength and guidance. God Bless Governor Perry.


109 posted on 07/21/2014 12:18:57 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476
Maybe instead of us throwing stones, it's time to instead offer up a prayer for God to give Governor Perry strength and guidance. God Bless Governor Perry.

Added to my prayers.

God save Texas.

God save our nation.

Amen.

110 posted on 07/21/2014 12:29:25 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Syncro
So much for stopping drug cartels from crossing the border. Will the TX Natl Guard be stopping ALL illegal aliens who attempt to cross the border, OR just the suspected drug cartel illegal aliens? The borders must be closed to ALL incoming illegal aliens, and illegals aliens must be turned BACK at the border, to return to their home lands. Is this what the Texas Natl Guard will be responsible for doing?
111 posted on 07/21/2014 1:31:05 AM PDT by itssme
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To: MaxMax
Question: Must a militia composed of willing citizens joining forces with the TX Natl Guard, have to wait for a call out from Perry, b/4 they can assemble at the TX border? If Perry wants help, more reinforcements to patrol the border, why is he not calling upon the state militia to assist? Like you said, MaxMax, there IS a silent majority of ex-Marines, Army and Navy ready for the call. So, why isn't Perry MAKING THAT CALL?
112 posted on 07/21/2014 1:42:32 AM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme
Its political, we have yet to know why he waited this long to take the first step. He has State rights and
all the affordable men and materials to back us up. He could also welcome other states
to send troops and reinforcements. He is the Governor and hes not using the resources available.
113 posted on 07/21/2014 1:58:01 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

Then Perry has to be strongly encouraged to use all his powers to include the militias, who are willing. Perry must make use of all his sources...what’s he afraid of? He’s taken the first step by calling up the TX Natl Guard...what’s holding him back from calling out the militias to help??? Texas needs all the help it can get, and the militias are willing and waiting for the word. God bless Perry. May he continue to show courage and strength and do the right thing,by taking the next step and calling out the state militia! Say a prayer for Perry...a prayer for him,is a prayer for us all.


114 posted on 07/21/2014 2:18:23 AM PDT by itssme
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To: bd476
“These are young people, just families coming across. They're not armed. They're not carrying weapons.”

They don't NEED to carry weapons - they ARE weapons. Whether you destroy America's resources and infrastructure with a bomb, or with an unceasing massive financial drain (illegals carrying disease, an entitlement mindset, and a proven record of criminality), the result is the same. No difference.

115 posted on 07/21/2014 2:33:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: bd476
Hinojosa sounds like a typical treasonous rat.
116 posted on 07/21/2014 2:41:24 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

The timing is less than four months before the election, perfect timing for political purposes.....


117 posted on 07/21/2014 2:48:16 AM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
About damned time.

You stole my thunder. Though my expletive was more on the ‘efffin’ side

118 posted on 07/21/2014 2:49:00 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: GeronL

I think people are going to be disappointed. Perry himself has said illegals will need to be handed over to the feds.


119 posted on 07/21/2014 3:35:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: tcrlaf
There are other resources available to the gov, as well, that he should be calling up, like the Civil Air Patrol

He can ask, but that will put another FedGov asset in place whose bread is buttered directly by DHS and DoD.

Mr. niteowl77

120 posted on 07/21/2014 3:48:48 AM PDT by niteowl77 (The five stages of Progressive persuasion: lecture, nudge, shove, arrest, liquidate.)
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To: bd476

Good Going Mr. Perry. Thank you. Better late than never.

Ok Ms. Brewer you’re up next!

And Ms. Martinez you too!


121 posted on 07/21/2014 4:18:37 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: bd476

Has he committed to when??????


122 posted on 07/21/2014 4:21:50 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: bd476

Gates been open way to long and the horse is way down the road.

Better luck next time America


123 posted on 07/21/2014 4:27:48 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: stevie_d_64

“Well, that’s 1000 personnel to hand out water and blankets in the processing shelters when and if the invaders are actually caught...”

That was my first thought.....Perry lost me when I saw him argue against border control during the last presidential primary...”A fence will not work” is one of the most asinine statements to come from an unprotected border state governor...This will not help....We need an all out ARMED deployment of forces to shut it down from CA. to TX. immediately....I think he is under pressure for that “Presidential Run”....No force will be used....


124 posted on 07/21/2014 4:35:21 AM PDT by selfdefense
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To: bd476

Depending on what their assignments are and how soon they are stationed and for how long, this smacks of the same kind of posturing GW Bush did when he 'ordered 6,000 NG on the border'.

GW's 6,000 were gradually assigned, for a few weeks at a time, in groups, over a period of months, so there was never a full complement of 6,000 at the border at one time. It was a political ploy to appease the anti-amnesty/secure-the-border voices.

Additionally, GW's 6,000 were assigned to filing paperwork, filling out forms, washing vehicles, etc. They were not even allowed to carry weapons.


Regrettably, Hinojosa may be right, since Perry is making sounds of wanting to run for the presidency again.


125 posted on 07/21/2014 4:39:32 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: bd476

Oh boy. Now you’ve gone and done it. Prepare to be flamed by the Anti-Perry crew. ;)


126 posted on 07/21/2014 4:47:15 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: GeronL

For a 1200 mile border it isn’t much, but 2000 troops would cost Texas about a half billion a year when everything got rolling.

My sense is that Perry wants to use them in an extremely vulnerable location. What he might want, I think, is for Obama to call seize Federal control of them and then change their mission to something that doesn’t help the border invasion.


127 posted on 07/21/2014 4:59:30 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: LUV W

Well, well. About time.


128 posted on 07/21/2014 5:04:04 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: jocon307
Good. I was reading that he was asking Obama to do this and I didn’t understand why as I thought the National Guard was under control of the governors.

The respective state National Guards are authorized by the Constitution of the United States. As originally drafted, the Constitution recognized the existing state militias, and gave them vital roles to fill: "to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasion." (Article I, Section 8, Clause 15). The Constitution distinguished "militias," which were state entities, from "Troops", which were unlawful for states to maintain without Congressional approval. (Article I, Section 10, Clause 3). Under current law, the respective state National Guards and the State Defense Forces are authorized by Congress to the states and are referred to as "troops." 32 U.S.C. § 109.

Yet the President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the state militias "when called into the actual Service of the United States." (Article II, Section 2).

The traditional state militias were redefined and recreated as the "organized militia"—the National Guard, via the Militia Act of 1903. They were now subject to an increasing amount of federal control, including having arms and accouterments supplied by the central government, federal funding, and numerous closer ties to the Regular Army. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States#Constitutional_basis

129 posted on 07/21/2014 5:07:12 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: bd476
Hinojosa said the National Guard was not equipped to aid immigrants crossing the Rio Grande. “They (cartels) are taking advantage of the situation,” he said. “But our local law enforcement from the sheriff’s offices of the different counties to the different police departments are taking care of the situation. This is a civil matter, not a military matter. What we need is more resources to hire more deputies, hire more Border Patrol.

“These are young people, just families coming across. They're not armed. They're not carrying weapons.”

just families coming across illegally.....fixed it.

130 posted on 07/21/2014 5:08:23 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: selfdefense

A fence alone will not work. Anyone who’s been to the border knows it.


131 posted on 07/21/2014 5:08:57 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: daniel1212

But..... the NG can be deputized as law enforcement and be under the direct control of the governor.

The military hats come off and Law enforcement hats go on


132 posted on 07/21/2014 5:10:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bd476

Smart move by Perry. He’s showing real leadership in a crisis. Where’s Hillary?

So for only $12 million a month we can have real border security in the south. That’s $144 million a year, toss in the fence as already paid for and just finish it. It’s got to cost America way more than $144 million a year to take care of all the illegals here.


133 posted on 07/21/2014 5:11:16 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RedMDer
Hinojosa sounds like a typical treasonous rat.

You saw his solution didn't you..."we just need to hire more border patrol." that is we need to increase government more.

134 posted on 07/21/2014 5:11:33 AM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: itssme

State Defense Forces

Many states also maintain their own state defense forces. Although not federal entities like the National Guard of the United States, these forces are components of the state militias like the individual state National Guards.

These forces were created by Congress in 1917 as a result of the state National Guards’ being deployed and were known as Home Guards. In 1940, with the onset of World War II and as a result of its federalizing the National Guard, Congress amended the National Defense Act of 1916, and authorized the states to maintain “military forces other than National Guard.”[13] This law authorized the War Department to train and arm the new military forces that would come to be known as State Guards. In 1950, with the outbreak of the Korean War and at the urging of the National Guard, Congress reauthorized the separate state military forces for a time period of two years. These state military forces were authorized military training at federal expense, as well as “arms, ammunition, clothing, and equipment,” as deemed necessary by the Secretary of the Army.[14] In 1956, Congress finally revised the law and authorized “State defense forces” permanently under Title 32, Section 109, of the United States Code.[15]
Naval Militias

Although there are no Naval or Marine Corps components of the National Guard of the United States, there is a Naval Militia authorized under federal law.10 U.S.C. § 7851. Like the soldiers and airmen in the National Guard of the United States, members of the Naval Militia are authorized federal appointments or enlistments at the discretion of the Secretary of the Navy.10 U.S.C. § 7852. To receive federal funding and equipment, a state naval militia must be composed of at least 95% Marine or Naval reservists. As such, some states maintain such units. Some states also maintain naval components of their State Defense Force. Recently, Alaska, California, New Jersey, New York, South Carolina, Texas and Ohio have had or currently maintain naval militias. Other states have laws authorizing them but do not currently have them organized. To receive federal funding, just like with the National Guard, a state must meet specific requirements such as having a set percentage of its members in the federal reserves.10 U.S.C. § 7851.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States#Other_Organizations


135 posted on 07/21/2014 5:13:16 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: tcrlaf

Correct and it should be done. Push the failure into the face of Obama. Sue the Feds for the funding.


136 posted on 07/21/2014 5:14:02 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: bd476

“...Hinojosa said the National Guard was not equipped to aid immigrants crossing the Rio Grande. ...”

Somebody should publicly and loudly inform this smacked-arse Hinojosa that the Nat Guard isn’t going there to AID the Illegal Aliens in crossing.

They’re going there to STOP them from crossing.


137 posted on 07/21/2014 5:16:07 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“A fence alone will not work. Anyone who’s been to the border knows it.”...

That’s common sense friend....Of course not, but NOTHING will work WITHOUT a fence......


138 posted on 07/21/2014 5:17:57 AM PDT by selfdefense
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To: BuckeyeTexan; stevie_d_64

The concept of a fence in Texas is ludicrous.

The border is the center of a meandering river. A fence can’t be built in a river. If the fence is constructed on the Texas bank, the river is effectively ceded to mexico. Then there is the matter of the law. If the Latrinos reach the center of the unprotected river they become subject to US law and granted a deportation trial. The fence in effect guarantees all who cross the river instant asylum.

The concept of a fence is a joke, a pie in the sky irrational nothingness.


139 posted on 07/21/2014 5:19:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bd476

will they get desk jobs and fake bullets like last time someone sent them down to the boarder?


140 posted on 07/21/2014 5:23:53 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: Jane Long

make um retired buses headed for the scrap heap. No one wants their kids in those buses afterwards.


141 posted on 07/21/2014 5:25:58 AM PDT by cableguymn (It's time for a second political party.)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree.


142 posted on 07/21/2014 5:26:05 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: bd476

Good — when????


143 posted on 07/21/2014 5:29:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: NYRepublican72
Posse comitatis does not apply to National Guard units and state defense forces while under the authority of a state.

Exactly. Title 10 vs. Title 32 of the United States code of National Guard vs. Federal Military.

During Katrina, the fat, corrupt Governor Blanco (LA-D) ordered that US Federal Military go door to door, seize guns, and force people out of their homes.

Lt. Gen Russel L. Honoré told her to go to hell.

I don't think most people (or the media) realize how serious a national crisis this latest news event (Texas National Guard on the border) means.

Gov Perry could set in motion events that lead to the secession of Texas.

I am not joking.

Three years ago he said this, and before the latest crisis that Obama generated.

Texas governor says secession possible

144 posted on 07/21/2014 5:50:06 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: bd476
Anybody who thought this guy was lukewarm in the last election cycle:

Your apology is accepted.
145 posted on 07/21/2014 6:26:22 AM PDT by arderkrag (Chaste women, sober men, obedient children, and "sin laws" - the four horsemen of the apocalypse.)
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To: bd476

I am. The root of the question, I hope you can imagine, is just how are they going to stop the invasion? Is that their intention? Or do they merely expect to “help” the border patrol do more of the nothing they have been doing for years? Remember some years ago when the military went to the border and just “observed” and nothing else? They had to wait for the Border Patrol to come and they never did or were so slow it didn’t matter.

I’m afraid this is nothing more than window dressing or 1,000 more frustrated people who are gatherers of human debris that we pay to medicate, house, feed and favor with all manner of luxury light years away from where they come from.


146 posted on 07/21/2014 6:28:17 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: bert; stevie_d_64; selfdefense

Don’t even get me started about that fence. I’ve had this discussion many times with freepers who think a fence is THE answer. They cite the Great Wall of China and the Barrier Wall in Israel without bothering to pay attention to the significant differences.

The Great Wall of China took well over 300 years and 500,000 men to build. The United States is not quite 240 years old itself.

Israel’s separation barrier is approximately 400 miles long, which is one-third the length of the Texas border and one-fourth the length of the U.S. border. The terrain in Israel does not include 1200 miles of water. The barrier is primarily intended to prevent terrorist attacks.

Different purposes. Different terrain. Different resources. Different time periods.

Oh, and guess what’s going on in Israel with the Barrier Wall today? Fox News just did a segment on ... wait for it ... TUNNELS! Israel was taken completely by surprise to discover that Hamas has an extensive tunnel system.

Really? They were surprised that those who want to get past a fence would tunnel under it? Sorry, folks. A fence just redirects their focus. If they want in, they’ll find a way around a fence.

Landmines, drones, and manned security towers with shoot-to-kill orders would be more effective than a fence.


147 posted on 07/21/2014 6:29:15 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: bd476

Will they have ammo this time?


148 posted on 07/21/2014 6:32:52 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: bert

The NG is already under the Governor’s direct command. Obama would have to nationalize them in order to take command. Even then, if he does it under Title 32, they’re still under state command. Title 10 is the only way for him to take command away from the state.


149 posted on 07/21/2014 6:35:29 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: SkyPilot

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/12/06/could-texas-really-secede-from-the-union-the-answer-is/


150 posted on 07/21/2014 6:47:03 AM PDT by PLD
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