Skip to comments.Gov. Rick Perry to deploy 1,000 National Guard troops to RGV
Posted on 07/20/2014 9:06:01 PM PDT by bd476
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I like obama’s idea - build moats and stock them with alligators - and crocodiles.
Watch Zero call up the Texas Guard for duty in Iraq.
Um, that puts Obama in command of the Texas guard. Is that what you want?
SierraWasp wrote: " 'They're not armed. They're not carrying weapons.'
They're just bringing deadly infectious DISEASES!!! YOU DUMMY!!! Plus, they are NOT SUSTAINABLE and they are being used and abused!!! Pay attention! Who's going to pay for all this deliberately illegal activity that is tacitily approved by our lame-braned coyote-in-chief???"
Infectious diseases from people simply visiting here was already a problem. Cases of whooping cough and tuberculosis have increased in the past ten years according to the CDC.
Then there's this alarming letter written by the Florida State Surgeon General:
Florida State Surgeon General Letter to HHS Regarding Unaccompanied Children
Florida Department of Health ^ | July 18, 2014 | Dr. John H. Armstrong
For full impact, or even to verify for yourself that it's an authentic, urgent request, you might want to take a look at the letter still posted as a one page .PDF file on the Florida Department of Health's website.
txrefugee wrote: "We do not need more illegals. We have at least 20 million too many already. Time to deport all of them."You're right, we don't need any more. Hope this will be a first step of many. First priority is to secure our borders, now. Next step will be to maintain them while also applying a strict enforcement of immigration laws already in place. Deportation of people simply over-staying their visitor visas was still occurring within the past ten years. What happened since is just a guess, probably it's partially due to increased illegal border crossings, some political game-playing against ICE and the C-change are country went through when Obama took up residence in the White House.
One step at a time. We cannot afford to look back, we must go forward, but History teaches us all that progress is made one step at a time.
These are young people, just families coming across. They’re not armed. They’re not carrying weapons.
Really? How does he know?
If the BLM can send armed guards to the Bundy ranch over a civil matter then its no big deal to have armed guards at the border.
Obama does it we all pay, Rick does it Texas pays, of course if he doesn't do it Texas still pays, just for other items, related to the invasion.
maine-iac7 wrote: "in what month? been hearing this for weeks - is he waiting to shut the barn door until after the cows are all out - in this case 'in'? "
Yes, it is very frustrating waiting for years for a change. This is just a first step. Though it is a business, never has any State or Local Government functioned as a typical business, or even major corporation. You and I with a whole Army of raging citizens will never change that fact, ever.
Governor Perry is not stupid, nor is he unaware of the many citizens of his State who are fed up. If anyone can change things, it will be Governor Perry who will at least be the first to get the ball rolling in the right direction. And if Governor Perry hasn't already, I know that he can find the means to implement a corporation-type fix which will still seem slow for those who have never worked in government but it will seem lightning quick for those who have worked in government.
Maybe instead of us throwing stones, it's time to instead offer up a prayer for God to give Governor Perry strength and guidance. God Bless Governor Perry.
Added to my prayers.
God save Texas.
God save our nation.
Then Perry has to be strongly encouraged to use all his powers to include the militias, who are willing. Perry must make use of all his sources...what’s he afraid of? He’s taken the first step by calling up the TX Natl Guard...what’s holding him back from calling out the militias to help??? Texas needs all the help it can get, and the militias are willing and waiting for the word. God bless Perry. May he continue to show courage and strength and do the right thing,by taking the next step and calling out the state militia! Say a prayer for Perry...a prayer for him,is a prayer for us all.
They don't NEED to carry weapons - they ARE weapons. Whether you destroy America's resources and infrastructure with a bomb, or with an unceasing massive financial drain (illegals carrying disease, an entitlement mindset, and a proven record of criminality), the result is the same. No difference.
The timing is less than four months before the election, perfect timing for political purposes.....
You stole my thunder. Though my expletive was more on the ‘efffin’ side
I think people are going to be disappointed. Perry himself has said illegals will need to be handed over to the feds.
He can ask, but that will put another FedGov asset in place whose bread is buttered directly by DHS and DoD.
Good Going Mr. Perry. Thank you. Better late than never.
Ok Ms. Brewer you’re up next!
And Ms. Martinez you too!
Has he committed to when??????
Gates been open way to long and the horse is way down the road.
Better luck next time America
“Well, thats 1000 personnel to hand out water and blankets in the processing shelters when and if the invaders are actually caught...”
That was my first thought.....Perry lost me when I saw him argue against border control during the last presidential primary...”A fence will not work” is one of the most asinine statements to come from an unprotected border state governor...This will not help....We need an all out ARMED deployment of forces to shut it down from CA. to TX. immediately....I think he is under pressure for that “Presidential Run”....No force will be used....
Oh boy. Now you’ve gone and done it. Prepare to be flamed by the Anti-Perry crew. ;)
For a 1200 mile border it isn’t much, but 2000 troops would cost Texas about a half billion a year when everything got rolling.
My sense is that Perry wants to use them in an extremely vulnerable location. What he might want, I think, is for Obama to call seize Federal control of them and then change their mission to something that doesn’t help the border invasion.
Well, well. About time.
The respective state National Guards are authorized by the Constitution of the United States. As originally drafted, the Constitution recognized the existing state militias, and gave them vital roles to fill: "to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasion." (Article I, Section 8, Clause 15). The Constitution distinguished "militias," which were state entities, from "Troops", which were unlawful for states to maintain without Congressional approval. (Article I, Section 10, Clause 3). Under current law, the respective state National Guards and the State Defense Forces are authorized by Congress to the states and are referred to as "troops." 32 U.S.C. § 109.
Yet the President of the United States is the commander-in-chief of the state militias "when called into the actual Service of the United States." (Article II, Section 2).
The traditional state militias were redefined and recreated as the "organized militia"the National Guard, via the Militia Act of 1903. They were now subject to an increasing amount of federal control, including having arms and accouterments supplied by the central government, federal funding, and numerous closer ties to the Regular Army. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States#Constitutional_basis
These are young people, just families coming across. They're not armed. They're not carrying weapons.
just families coming across illegally.....fixed it.
A fence alone will not work. Anyone who’s been to the border knows it.
But..... the NG can be deputized as law enforcement and be under the direct control of the governor.
The military hats come off and Law enforcement hats go on
Smart move by Perry. He’s showing real leadership in a crisis. Where’s Hillary?
So for only $12 million a month we can have real border security in the south. That’s $144 million a year, toss in the fence as already paid for and just finish it. It’s got to cost America way more than $144 million a year to take care of all the illegals here.
You saw his solution didn't you..."we just need to hire more border patrol." that is we need to increase government more.
State Defense Forces
Many states also maintain their own state defense forces. Although not federal entities like the National Guard of the United States, these forces are components of the state militias like the individual state National Guards.
These forces were created by Congress in 1917 as a result of the state National Guards’ being deployed and were known as Home Guards. In 1940, with the onset of World War II and as a result of its federalizing the National Guard, Congress amended the National Defense Act of 1916, and authorized the states to maintain “military forces other than National Guard.” This law authorized the War Department to train and arm the new military forces that would come to be known as State Guards. In 1950, with the outbreak of the Korean War and at the urging of the National Guard, Congress reauthorized the separate state military forces for a time period of two years. These state military forces were authorized military training at federal expense, as well as “arms, ammunition, clothing, and equipment,” as deemed necessary by the Secretary of the Army. In 1956, Congress finally revised the law and authorized “State defense forces” permanently under Title 32, Section 109, of the United States Code.
Although there are no Naval or Marine Corps components of the National Guard of the United States, there is a Naval Militia authorized under federal law.10 U.S.C. § 7851. Like the soldiers and airmen in the National Guard of the United States, members of the Naval Militia are authorized federal appointments or enlistments at the discretion of the Secretary of the Navy.10 U.S.C. § 7852. To receive federal funding and equipment, a state naval militia must be composed of at least 95% Marine or Naval reservists. As such, some states maintain such units. Some states also maintain naval components of their State Defense Force. Recently, Alaska, California, New Jersey, New York, South Carolina, Texas and Ohio have had or currently maintain naval militias. Other states have laws authorizing them but do not currently have them organized. To receive federal funding, just like with the National Guard, a state must meet specific requirements such as having a set percentage of its members in the federal reserves.10 U.S.C. § 7851.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_the_United_States#Other_Organizations
Correct and it should be done. Push the failure into the face of Obama. Sue the Feds for the funding.
“...Hinojosa said the National Guard was not equipped to aid immigrants crossing the Rio Grande. ...”
Somebody should publicly and loudly inform this smacked-arse Hinojosa that the Nat Guard isn’t going there to AID the Illegal Aliens in crossing.
They’re going there to STOP them from crossing.
“A fence alone will not work. Anyone whos been to the border knows it.”...
That’s common sense friend....Of course not, but NOTHING will work WITHOUT a fence......
The concept of a fence in Texas is ludicrous.
The border is the center of a meandering river. A fence can’t be built in a river. If the fence is constructed on the Texas bank, the river is effectively ceded to mexico. Then there is the matter of the law. If the Latrinos reach the center of the unprotected river they become subject to US law and granted a deportation trial. The fence in effect guarantees all who cross the river instant asylum.
The concept of a fence is a joke, a pie in the sky irrational nothingness.
will they get desk jobs and fake bullets like last time someone sent them down to the boarder?
make um retired buses headed for the scrap heap. No one wants their kids in those buses afterwards.
Good — when????
Exactly. Title 10 vs. Title 32 of the United States code of National Guard vs. Federal Military.
During Katrina, the fat, corrupt Governor Blanco (LA-D) ordered that US Federal Military go door to door, seize guns, and force people out of their homes.
Lt. Gen Russel L. Honoré told her to go to hell.
I don't think most people (or the media) realize how serious a national crisis this latest news event (Texas National Guard on the border) means.
Gov Perry could set in motion events that lead to the secession of Texas.
I am not joking.
Three years ago he said this, and before the latest crisis that Obama generated.
I am. The root of the question, I hope you can imagine, is just how are they going to stop the invasion? Is that their intention? Or do they merely expect to “help” the border patrol do more of the nothing they have been doing for years? Remember some years ago when the military went to the border and just “observed” and nothing else? They had to wait for the Border Patrol to come and they never did or were so slow it didn’t matter.
I’m afraid this is nothing more than window dressing or 1,000 more frustrated people who are gatherers of human debris that we pay to medicate, house, feed and favor with all manner of luxury light years away from where they come from.
Don’t even get me started about that fence. I’ve had this discussion many times with freepers who think a fence is THE answer. They cite the Great Wall of China and the Barrier Wall in Israel without bothering to pay attention to the significant differences.
The Great Wall of China took well over 300 years and 500,000 men to build. The United States is not quite 240 years old itself.
Israels separation barrier is approximately 400 miles long, which is one-third the length of the Texas border and one-fourth the length of the U.S. border. The terrain in Israel does not include 1200 miles of water. The barrier is primarily intended to prevent terrorist attacks.
Different purposes. Different terrain. Different resources. Different time periods.
Oh, and guess what’s going on in Israel with the Barrier Wall today? Fox News just did a segment on ... wait for it ... TUNNELS! Israel was taken completely by surprise to discover that Hamas has an extensive tunnel system.
Really? They were surprised that those who want to get past a fence would tunnel under it? Sorry, folks. A fence just redirects their focus. If they want in, they’ll find a way around a fence.
Landmines, drones, and manned security towers with shoot-to-kill orders would be more effective than a fence.
Will they have ammo this time?
The NG is already under the Governor’s direct command. Obama would have to nationalize them in order to take command. Even then, if he does it under Title 32, they’re still under state command. Title 10 is the only way for him to take command away from the state.