Skip to comments.Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East
Posted on 07/21/2014 4:22:57 PM PDT by The Bat Ladys Husband
Ukraine hasnt said how it immediately knew rebels downed Malaysian plane, notes the Russian Foreign Ministry, as it unveils 10 awkward questions for Ukraine (and perhaps the US 'snap judgment') to answer about the MH17 disaster. However, what is perhaps more concerning for the hordes of finger-pointers is that:
RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST: IFX RUSSIA: UKRAINE MOVED BUK NEAR REBELS IN DONETSK JULY 17: IFX RUSSIA DETECTED UKRAINIAN FIGHTER JET PICK UP SPEED TOWARD MH17
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Putin isn’t Hitler. Come on.
I am not more prone to believe Obama than Putin. Are you?
RUSSIA HAS IMAGES OF UKRAINE DEPLOYING BUK ROCKETS IN EAST
...and then the Ukrainians hot footed out of Ukrain into Russia?
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
No but numerous other sources put the responsibility on Russia.
A Ukraine Air Force military jet was detected gaining height, its distance from the Malaysian Boeing was 3 to 5km, said the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the HQ of Russias military forces, Lieutenant-General Andrey Kartopolov speaking at a media conference in Moscow on Monday.
[We] would like to get an explanation as to why the military jet was flying along a civil aviation corridor at almost the same time and at the same level as a passenger plane, he stated."
The Russkie shamelessly claims the SU-25 can reach 10KM. It does not. That's why there is a Wikipedia war going on right now with the Russkies trying to upgrade the SU-25, at least online, for a gullible public:
One can tell that they aren't trying to fool any governments here. They are going after the public, since they know the public isn't likely to know things like what an SU-25 can or can't do, or what the maximum range of a Buk is.
Zerohedge also is reporting on the Russkies "debunking" the photographs of the Buks returning to Russia. Which is also BS:
Fact of the matter is, these stupid Russkies already admitted to shooting it down and to having the weapons necessary to do it, even while these losers shamelessly put forward all kinds of conspiracy theories to cover it up.
First to know a plane was down was Strelkov, who reported on twitter that they had shut down a Ukrainian AN26. It was immediately followed by Russian TV Life News who also reported shooting a Ukrainian plane. Both instances are documented.
I can make them, too. How about all the nations who lost citizens in the crash get all their intel together, not on an IRS hard drive, keep the originals and have a forum. One nation who did not lose a citizen and can be trusted as arbitrator. Good luck with that.
The Russian propaganda is at least plausible.
Hey, Russia got the evidence from Dan Rather who picked it up at Kinko’s. What more do you need?!?
“Ukraine has missiles too.”
Those pesky facts again. Dayum!
The service ceiling of the Frogfoot is 7km but the maximum ceiling is 10km. The "Russkie" is correct. Use a reliable source like Global Security instead of Wikipedia. The fact is right now we have no idea who shot the plane down because the Ukrainians, Russians, and separatists are all liars.
Amazing what computers can do these days.
Something doesn't smell right.
And I’m an idiot that can’t read...
Global Security says the Ukranians have the 7km max ceiling version.
But I still stand by that everyone in that region is lying about their roles in the event.
this and the missing MH370 conspiracy theory together, are thought provoking at least.
Obama/Kerry aren't exactly known for being honest... about anything.
Looks like we’re finally getting to the bottom of this.
I figured the “blame Putin” push was just to get those Central American kids out of the news...and it worked GREAT.
Remember back at the beginning of Obama's first administration, the "beer summit" because Obama assumed his black friend was correct and the Cambridge MA policemen were in error? Remember Obama's response to Treyvon's death before he had any facts? Didn't Obama ignore warnings about the Tsarnov maniacs? Remember labeling Snowden as a traitor?
My point is that Obama has a sorry history of drawing conclusions based on who he likes and who he doesn't like. And Obama does not like Putin. And Obama jumped to conclusions in this situation based on some strangely perfect "evidence" from Kiev.
Barry is also deceptive, and I’m not convinced he doesn’t like Putin. He sure doesn’t have much problem with whatever Putin does.
Riiight, and Chernobyl was an invention of the evil West, the Finns attacked Russia in 1939, the Germans killed all the Polish officers at Katyn, the South Korean plane had spy equipment on it, etc., etc. the only bottom you are getting to is Putin’s.
End BTW, In the 1930’s the Russians built the biggest public baths in the world, for the first time , individual towels were used. At least uncle Joseph Vissarionovich told me so.
Agreed. I don’t see why people are wasting so much time worrying about what happens in Europe when we are in the process of being invaded and conquered without a shot fired. If this keeps up, we won’t have to worry about US foreign policy because there won’t be a US.
Naa, I’m just skeptical of trusting President Obama.
But I realize I’m a minority now on this site.
The whole MH17 story is as watertight as a screen door on a submarine. Evidence is going to pour in.
That's right. The U.S. State Dept. shot down this jet.
“The difference is frequency: while Ukrainians lie some times, terrorists often, Russians lie always.”
It makes the Russians the most consistent and should be the easiest to deal with, if we had grownups in charge of the White House and State Dept.
It’s really sad they we can’t trust our government to do a thorough and complete investigation, but they have zero credibility like the Russians.
In the end, nothing will happen except the ban on Russian AKs will never go away.
I don’t trust Hussein, either. Nor do I trust the Russians any more then the socialist radicals in the white mosque. Just like Stalin and Hitler, Hussein and Putin are very similar, but each one wants to be mr. Big. Ergo, the animosity between the two. Putin, though, appears to have much bigger huevos than the queer in chief, I’ll give him that.
“That’s right. The U.S. State Dept. shot down this jet.”
No, but they seem to be a LOT MORE interested in it than would normally happen, considering it was a flight between Asia and EUROPE and only had one American on board. Heck, two Americans were killed in Israel yesterday, but no one screaming there.
...and it makes GREAT COVER for getting those pesky kids from Central America off the Sunday shows.
(sorry, that’s how politics works with this bunch)
Plausible to a child, communist sympathizer, or moron, maybe.
I think that Star Trek the original series had an episode like that. Maybe that’s where the Russians got the idea for their weird stories (which keep changing and aren’t consistent with each other).
You saw a video, so have I. But it most certainly is NOT either a Boeing 777 or MH17.
The level of complete crap posted on this subject on Free Republic is appalling and embarrassing.
Oh Yeh sure —
And this from the same looting prefabricators who played cat and mouse with the bodies of the victims as they rifled though the evidence disturbing the crime scene for the last 4 days.
The Russians are playing it like your typical criminal defense attorney. It woulda, coulda, shoulda happened, so therefore it did, thus creating doubt. Beware the big lie, we are not alone when it comes to gullible people.
yep - Wag the Dog action
When are people going to learn that, when it comes to the boy king, you have to WATCH THE OTHER HAND
Interesting. Finally someone is releasing actual sat images and radar derived info. Not youtube videos or twitter images. And the Russians do not seem to draw any conclusions here. They just draw questions and point out possibilities. Kinda hard to see a Ukraine jet shooting the flight down. Or a Ukraine missile shooting it down. That points to a false flag and crazy tinfoil territory. We do have confirmation however that a military jet was in the vicinity of the commercial flight. Will the Ukraine release their radar data on the flight ? Why hold it back ?
Oops. Not confirmation. Just an accusation that a military jet was in the vicinity. Obviously it may not have been at the same altitude due to the reported attack planes capabilities.
A couple of questions:
My understanding is that the Ukranians have large jet transport aircraft. My understanding is that the pro-Russian separatists do NOT have large jet transport aircraft.
Why wouldn’t the pro-Russian separatists shoot at a jet they knew was not their own? Why would the Ukranians shoot at it?