Skip to comments.Federal Judge: Forget Lethal Injections, Use Firing Squads
Posted on 07/22/2014 3:00:08 AM PDT by Enterprise
Killing people is a brutal and messy business and if Americans can't deal with that, they shouldn't be condemning people to death, a top federal judge says. In a strongly worded dissent in an Arizona lethal-injection case, Alex Kozinski, chief judge of the Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals, calls the current system "inherently flawed" and says states that want to execute inmates should return to more "primitiveand foolproofmethods" of execution, NBC reports. "The guillotine is probably best but seems inconsistent with our national ethos. And the electric chair, hanging and the gas chamber are each subject to occasional mishaps," he writes. "The firing squad strikes me as the most promising. Eight or ten large-caliber rifle bullets fired at close range can inflict massive damage, causing instant death every time.
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I have a Marlin 45-70 Government Guide Scout I’m itching to try out.
This judge “gets it”.
...and policing up spent brass aids in job creation. Then there’s that punishment fitting the crime thingy.
THANK YOU!!!!!! I feel like this is the most common sense I’ve heard from a judge in 5 years.
Good as anything else. A cup of Hemlock, a dagger in the chest—anything that will do the job. For some crimes—burial alive would be justice.
Future headline: VOLUNTEERS WANTED FOR FIRING SQUAD. BRING YOUR OWN PISTOL OR RIFLE AND AMMUNITION. HIGH CAPACITY MAGAZINES ARE ACCEPTABLE.
He understands completely. Quit pussyfooting around and just get it done.
It is common sense at its best.
Actually, there are simple and apparently painless methods of causing instant loss of conciousness and quick death.
For example, quickly replace the air in the death chamber with nitrogen or another inert gas. Out like a light very quickly. Death in a few minutes. Let the chamber sit at 100% nitrogen for half hour, pump in air to replace, go in, certify death, go home.
Or why not use some of that confiscated heroin to induce a massive overdose? Presumably the killee will go out not only painlessly, but with a big smile on his face.
This whole mess is emblematic of an American attitude that causes a whole bunch of similar problems. We prefer to have things appear to be neat, tidy and painless, even if they cause a great deal more actual damage.
A few examples:
The logical approach to dealing with non-violent (and possibly even mildly violent) first offenders is a good flogging. Humans have a mental mechanism whereby pain induces a desire to avoid whatever caused the pain. So why not use it? Instead, we lock young guys up in prison, pretending that’s more humane, where they run immense risk of sexual or physical assault much more damaging than a reasonable flogging. I know that given the choice I’d take a flogging followed by a week facedown in the hospital over a month in the slammer with hardened criminals.
Boxing. Old-time bare-knuckle boxing was bloody and brutal, no doubt about it. So we add pillowy gloves to minimize the cutting of the skin that causes the blood to flow. Result: less blood and boxers develop brain damage that makes them “punchy” from the brain bouncing off the walls of the skull repeatedly. Without gloves, that just didn’t happen. A person simply cannot hit somebody hard enough in the head to do that kind of damage without breaking his hands. No gloves, lots of blood, little longterm damage to the fighters. Gloves, little blood, fighters usually brain damaged.
Football: This one is similar to boxing. Rugby is played quite roughly, yet the brain damage common in American football players is seldom seen. The “armor” worn by American footballers allows and encourages them to hit much harder than Rugbyists can without seriously injuring themselves. So the padding encourages more severe injuries, it doesn’t prevent them.
There are multiple other examples of our national tendency to trade the appearance of nonviolence for a reality of worse damage. Very sad.
It can’t be cruel or unusual if the right guns are used. Blindfold, bammmmm! Over.
Perhaps that is why the feds bought all those .40 cal rounds. Might be planning a BIG TIME firing squad.
Televised every Friday.
So. Use the guillotine for wogs and the firing squad for civilized monsters. The last person France executed (1977) was a wog from North Africa who killed his girlfriend.
I don’t know, I always thought a quick death really isn’t punishment. I mean you feel pain for a few seconds then it is all over. What kind of punishment is that?
Instead what I propose is the “Sick and tired” method of execution. What you do is take the criminal, tie him in a straight jacket, place him a cement cell (no pads on the walls) and on the ceiling of these cells out of reach are giant 1000 watt speakers capable of reaching the decibel levels of jet engines.
Then once you lock the door, you play this tape over and over until the criminals head explodes or he smashes his brains out on the wall...........
Shoot straight, you bastards Don't make a mess of it!
BTW, in traditional firing squads the person being executed very frequently was still alive when the shooting stopped. Which led to the tradition of the officer in charge finishing the guy off with one or more pistol shots to the head.
Which of course brings up the fairly obvious question of why not skip the preliminaries and go straight to the finale, as the Chinese do.
Hmmmm....... Hanging was not mentioned. It is cheap and Saddam Hussein taught us , quite effective.
I’m all for hosting executions at the stadium.
My complaint is that the electric chair is a single seater...I think we need to wire up the bleachers and eliminate the backlog (since waiting 20-30 years is now, “cruel and unusual”).