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Perry Announces Details Of Texas National Guard Border Deployment
Conservative HQ ^ | 7/22/2014 | CHQ Staff

Posted on 07/22/2014 6:23:14 AM PDT by xzins

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To: SoConPubbie; TADSLOS

Yep.

Perry’s been busted yet again.

This time he’s just spending more than the usual money on his deception.


61 posted on 07/22/2014 9:09:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Ditter
Alrighty then! Lock and load, let’s shoot the little bastids, that’ll send the message you want! You go first............

How about we just stick with the legal and righteous approach of deporting the children immediately back to their parents, and if their parents are here in the US, deporting them as well.

John 10:1
10 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
62 posted on 07/22/2014 9:27:55 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Using your own measures, you should be criticizing Cruz a great deal more than Perry. This is a good step, not near enough, you are making a mistake when you criticize all other candidates when they’ve done a good thing. The circular firing squad needs to stop if we expect to get Cruz nominated and elected.


63 posted on 07/22/2014 9:41:09 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: xzins

great so doe that mean change diapers and help them cross the river, then give them health care, food, medicine and housing , along with food stamps.
Then shipped out to other states to pick up the tab.

If they are not to enforce the border then it’s a waste of time.


64 posted on 07/22/2014 9:42:43 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Lakeshark
Using your own measures, you should be criticizing Cruz a great deal more than Perry. This is a good step, not near enough, you are making a mistake when you criticize all other candidates when they’ve done a good thing. The circular firing squad needs to stop if we expect to get Cruz nominated and elected.

To be fair Lakeshark, I have already commented on this where Cruz is concerned. With respect to the problem of Illegal Immigration is concerned, Cruz needs to drop his own support of normalization of those illegals that are already here.

However, with respect to the current crisis, Cruz, much more than Perry, has made it perfectly clear that these children need to be deported quickly.

My problem with Perry, and even his staff acknowledges this point, is that he has the authority to APPREHEND the illegals and has chosen not too.

So, once again, all flash and no real bang, especially when he had the opportunity to do the right thing and chose not to.
65 posted on 07/22/2014 9:47:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: xzins

what is the point of sending them if they are not to enforce the border, but instead give them food, health care etc, and if they don’t do that and hand them to the border patrol ten it only means the border patrol does what they are doing now.
Changing diapers, food, etc.

Give them border patrol and border patrol then hands them to homeland security who in turn sends them about the country, especially swing areas.


66 posted on 07/22/2014 9:48:07 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SoConPubbie

exactly.
If they hand them to border patrol then border patrol hands them to homeland security who in turn sends them about the country.
Hence nothing changes , but TX picks up a bill


67 posted on 07/22/2014 9:49:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Sequoyah101; SoConPubbie; P-Marlowe

Not just lip service. I just listened to Texas Attorney General Abbott, and he says the NG can detain, and they are working on legalities giving the NG the power to arrest. In any case, they can turn the detainees over to Texas security teams who CAN arrest. He also said their major objective at this point, given their manpower, is to stop the cartels, criminals, gang members, etc.

IIRC, Abbott is the likely replacement for Perry in November’s elections, so you’re actually hearing from the guy who will enforce all this this next 4 years.

Nonetheless, I give Perry credit.


68 posted on 07/22/2014 9:50:19 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: manc; SoConPubbie; Lakeshark
that he has the authority to APPREHEND the illegals and has chosen not too.

That's not what I just now heard from Texas AG Abbott. They do intend to apprehend cartel, criminal, gang, and other dangerous persons.

So, it isn't true that stopping groups containing women and children is a bad thing. It enables them to get checked out. As pointed out in my previous post, Abbott is Perry's heir apparent.

69 posted on 07/22/2014 9:53:52 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

is to stop the cartels, criminals, gang members, etc.

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There are some indications that this is at least one objective with the Guard.
Especially since they have talked of using them in Jim Hogg County where
activity has increased.


70 posted on 07/22/2014 9:54:01 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

I just listened to the Texas AG say they intent to have the guard detain and the security arrest. That seems real to me.


71 posted on 07/22/2014 9:55:17 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Perry’s office has said the Guard will largely play a role of “deter and refer”.... They don’t plan to apprehend illegal immigrants

Refer them to ICE or DHS so they can turn around and be seeded throughout the U.S.

72 posted on 07/22/2014 9:59:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

IYHO, is this another indication that we are now in THE OBAMA COLD WAR?


73 posted on 07/22/2014 10:01:38 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: dragnet2
In other words, Perry wants his NG to act as Assistant Bell Hops for illegals checking into Hotel USA.

"Let me get your bags. I'll let the concierge DHS know you're here."

74 posted on 07/22/2014 10:02:44 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: SoConPubbie
I think your efforts to bring down other candidates are not nearly as helpful as simply furthering Cruz as candidate.

He's my first choice, but he may choose not to run and it's important to not bring out the circular firing squad as I said earlier.

75 posted on 07/22/2014 10:06:10 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark
think your efforts to bring down other candidates are not nearly as helpful as simply furthering Cruz as candidate.

He's my first choice, but he may choose not to run and it's important to not bring out the circular firing squad as I said earlier.


Characterize it anyway you like Lakeshark. I fell prey to GWB in 2000, and it was only AFTER he was elected did I find out that he was a complete supporter of Amnesty.

The time to vet these people is way before the Primaries happen.

The time to defeat the spin, is way before the Primaries happen.


76 posted on 07/22/2014 10:13:43 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: xzins

I hope you are justified in your expectations.

I also agree with you that it is something credit worthy because it is hard to do and there are many, many critics.

They, including Abbott, did put a proper spin on it. Protection and that is the reason for borders and enforcement. Immigration law takes care of the desirables though not all and that is good and proper.

You don’t let anyone into your house who wants in and you don’t let everybody you like in any time they want. You of course control who gets in and when and how many. This country is our house.


77 posted on 07/22/2014 10:30:10 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: SoConPubbie; Lakeshark

Obviously, my being a Christian minister, I believe in the change that comes with conversion, new birth. But, I also believe in giving people a shot at changing behavior. It can be done. Perry seems to be showing a change in what he believes about the border.

What is significant in Texas is that he is not the one who will enforce it. That will be the new governor, probably Abbott, who talks about the NG detaining, even arresting people. (I assume the legal difficulties include both posse commitatus, and the prerogatives of the Border Patrol.) However, Abbott says they can detain, they can refer to Texas security, and they can filter out the cartel, criminal, gang, and terrorist elements. I don’t care who you are, that’s important.

So far as Perry’s next run for the presidency, there are lots of indications that Romney is trying to get back into this again. He has the money to do it.

As a former bushbot, I would GLADLY take the fault-prone GW Bush over Romney, Christie, any day of the week. That means I’d take Perry.

I would like Cruz. But, ‘you can’t always get what you want..”


78 posted on 07/22/2014 10:43:02 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Kenny

I get that Perry doesn’t hate Mexicans, might even want to help some. That doesn’t take away from what he’s doing on the border right now, he’s taking action. That’s something no one else seems to want to do.


79 posted on 07/22/2014 10:43:03 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: SoConPubbie; xzins
It's fine to vet, what you appear to be doing is criticizing another candidate for doing something good.

That's circular firing squad stuff, and one of the many reasons we are perpetual losers.

Cruz is my first choice, we need to do better in the way we further good candidates.

80 posted on 07/22/2014 10:44:56 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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