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High-profile domestic terrorism plots were actually FBI sting operations
Reason ^ | Jul. 22, 2014 | Jesse Walker

Posted on 07/22/2014 7:14:37 AM PDT by DarkSavant

Some remarkable statistics in a new report from Human Rights Watch and Columbia Law School's Human Rights Institute:

And then there's 'The Sting 2,' starring Jackie Gleason. All I remember about it is that it included a scene on a roller coaster. All of the high-profile domestic terrorism plots of the last decade, with four exceptions, were actually FBI sting operations—plots conducted with the direct involvement of law enforcement informants or agents, including plots that were proposed or led by informants. According to multiple studies, nearly 50 percent of the more than 500 federal counterterrorism convictions resulted from informant-based cases; almost 30 percent of those cases were sting operations in which the informant played an active role in the underlying plot.

The four exceptions are the Boston Marathon bombing, an attempted car bombing at Times Square, a plan to bomb the New York subways, and a shooting at Los Angeles International Airport. (The last of those took place in 2002, so it isn't really "of the last decade.")


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Haven't read the report closely, but jives with my impression of our enforcement agencies.
1 posted on 07/22/2014 7:14:37 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: DarkSavant

To my mind, the FBI, CIA, NSA, DHS or the TSA has never provably stopped a terrorist action BEFORE it happened.

We often hear how they have prevented this and that, but they are lies, frankly, often with background lies that cannot be substantiated because of dubious claims about operations in foreign countries.


2 posted on 07/22/2014 7:24:03 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: yorkiemom; null and void; laplata; Gluteus Maximus; Salvavida; Foundahardheadedwoman; baddog 219; ..
CWII Spark — What if all those “foiled terrorism plots” by the various federal agencies were actually the doing of the government? What if it’s all a ploy for the government to seize power at the expense of liberty? And what if people found out?

(Possible Nut-Job Conspiracy Thread)

3 posted on 07/22/2014 7:40:04 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: DarkSavant

Of the 4 “exceptions”, the Obama adm not only knew of 3 but made preparations for the attacks.

Rush Limbaugh derailed the preparations for the subway plot and it cost him an NFL team.

That would be the “spontaneous” protest the Obama adm. tried to orchestrate with the Gates and “police acting stupid” dust up before the “spontaneous” planned bombing of the subways.

Immediately prior to the 2010 car bombing in NYC the Obama adm. and the dems tried ginning up “spontaneous” protest by claiming the TEA Party were a bunch of ultraviolent right wing extremist Tim McVeigh wannabes, then with the “spontaneous” attempted fertilizer car bomb the Obama adm claimed it had to be the TEA Party because they were a bunch of ultraviolent Tim McVeigh wannabes and it was a fertilizer bomb like McVeigh used.

Right before the Boston bombing the Obama adm. set about ginning up “spontaneous” civil unrest with whites, blacks, and Hispanics and the bombing was “spontaneous” with only 2 days planning then there was a “spontaneous” plan to attack NYC.

Again the left tried to blame it on the TEA party.

Look at the airline plot from 2012 just before the “spontaneous” protest and “spontaneous” attack in Benghazi.

The Obama adm sent people to Florida to gin up “spontaneous” civil unrest because Trayvon Martin got a well deserved pop. The terrorist then gave the govt agent the bomb and told him it was up to him to time the bombing of the airliner.

Since it was a govt agent with the bomb it was up to Obama as to when to announce the airline plot.

Orchestrated civil unrest followed with terrorist plot, exact same pattern as the others but we know without a doubt the Obama adm controlled both ends, the civil unrest and the timing of the plot.


4 posted on 07/22/2014 7:45:18 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: DarkSavant

pick up the phone.... Alex wants to chat


5 posted on 07/22/2014 7:46:02 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: DarkSavant
I'm Back In The U.S.S.R. Boys
You Don't Know How Lucky You are Boy
Back in the U.S. - Back in the U.S. - Back in the U.S.S.R

Lavrentiy Beria

"Show me the man, and I'll show you the crime."

(head of Josef Stalin's secret police in the old USSR)


6 posted on 07/22/2014 7:50:52 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The Obamas Black skin has morphed into Teflon thanks to the Obama Media)
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To: OneWingedShark

Just watch this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2fk3sk13pg


7 posted on 07/22/2014 7:55:20 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Gaffer

What about the attempted bridge bombing, just South of Cleveland?


8 posted on 07/22/2014 8:11:18 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: OneWingedShark

A friend worked undercover some years back - told me the story of a sting where every person involved was law enforcement. They had ‘captured’ each other. Luckily he knew enough of the people to call a stop to it before someone got hurt - which can happen. Also, if someone is trying to get you involve in something violent - you’re probably dealing with a cop.


10 posted on 07/22/2014 8:55:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize-Voltaire)
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To: DarkSavant
This comment gets right to the bottom line:
I'd be more apt to say it's an indictment of the surveillance state. The government had all the information at its disposal that it needed, but couldn't put two and two together because of the sheer size of the bureaucracies involved.

11 posted on 07/22/2014 9:00:56 AM PDT by PlasticMan
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To: PlasticMan
HBO or another movie channel is running a documentary about the black moslums arrested in Newburgh NY. They were recruited and supplied by a government informant. I don't have any sympathy for the four black guys who were dumb enough to follow the informant. They were more interested in money then jihad. Bottom line is they were willing to set bombs off in Jewish neighborhoods and blow up a military plane at Stewart Air Base.
13 posted on 07/22/2014 10:25:53 AM PDT by peeps36 (Save The Tortoise And Kill The People)
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To: PlasticMan

Size of bureaucracy and infiltrating ideology which makes any active search of communist or Obama links in terror taboo.


14 posted on 07/22/2014 11:08:40 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: OneWingedShark; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
CWII Spark — What if all those “foiled terrorism plots” by the various federal agencies were actually the doing of the government? What if it’s all a ploy for the government to seize power at the expense of liberty? And what if people found out?

Know your enemy

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

15 posted on 07/22/2014 6:19:47 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: Iron Munro

The Beatles were right about Ukraine girls.


16 posted on 07/22/2014 6:51:29 PM PDT by BBell (I'm cynical and sarcastic and therefore I love Ann Coulter)
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To: Gaffer

Old joke:

How do you identify the FBI agent at the Klan meeting?

He’s the one with the dynamite.


17 posted on 07/22/2014 6:53:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: OneWingedShark
(Possible Nut-Job Conspiracy Thread)

Possible? POSSIBLE!?! This is probably the truth! All I gotta say is BLOAT!

18 posted on 07/22/2014 7:23:51 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: null and void

yeah but that is soooo Alex Jones


19 posted on 07/22/2014 8:27:38 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: DarkSavant

So, if FBI agents find out about a plot and sabotage it, it’s a sting, setting up innocent Muslims?
Who knew that Silicone Valley funding leaks into the brain of DC libertarians.


20 posted on 07/22/2014 9:46:52 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: DarkSavant

bfl


21 posted on 07/23/2014 1:42:23 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: rmlew

No, the FBI agents set up the plot, get people of questionable mental health to agree to take part, then arrest them.


22 posted on 07/23/2014 7:05:49 AM PDT by DarkSavant
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To: IMR 4350

And with the dead-soul Brennan running Spook U. the bloodiness will rise in the coming months. Evil now struts in America


23 posted on 07/23/2014 7:15:55 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN

Right now the Obama adm and his allies on the left are ginning up civil unrest with whites, blacks, and Hispanics.

Beginning in 1993 each and every major terrorist attack, attempted attack, or threat of attack was preceded by “spontaneous” protest ginned up by the left.

All are exactly like Benghazi which they tried to convince us was “spontaneous” protest followed by “spontaneous” terrorist attack.

I don’t expect anything different this time.


24 posted on 07/23/2014 7:54:18 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

Nothing with a political agenda is spontaneous.


25 posted on 07/23/2014 9:10:34 AM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill

The first “spontaneous” protest followed by a “spontaneous” terrorist attack was the 1992 LA race riots followed by the 1993 1st WTC bombing.

The dems claimed the LA riots were a “spontaneous” response to the not guilty verdict of the LA police who beat R King and the 1st WTC bombing was a “spontaneous” response to Bush sending troops into Somalia.

Neither of which were “spontaneous”.

The LA riots were planned and the planning for the 1st WTC bombing is traced back to 1991 about the same time as the R King video and well over a year before Bush sent troops into Somalia at the urging of the dems.

Amazing how the dems. were so lucky in creating a talking point to blame Bush for the 1st WTC bombing before the bombing had taken place.


26 posted on 07/23/2014 9:56:48 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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