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Split Rulings Over Obamacare Point to Another Supreme Court Showdown
Wall Street Journal ^ | 07/22/2014 | Jacob Gershman

Posted on 07/22/2014 11:28:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
So, Obama was lying when he said THE MANDATE IS NOT A TAX.

Of course he was. Does it surprise you that Obama would lie about such a thing?

41 posted on 07/22/2014 2:09:30 PM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Muslim president!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

I’m pretty bitter after 2012, what a punch to the gut the SCOTUS decision and election was. :/


42 posted on 07/22/2014 2:38:30 PM PDT by erod
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To: SeekAndFind

If Roberts holds true to form, he will state that Congress is the remedy, that Congress stated what it intended, and if it intended something different than it stated it is up to Congress to correct it’s plain language.


43 posted on 07/22/2014 2:52:54 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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To: Resettozero

John Roberts will vote for federal subsidizing of ObamaCare. I have zero doubt about this.

It’s about federal money:

If ObamaCare state exchanges are already funded by federal money channeled through those state exchanges, it will be easy for Roberts to say that was the intent. (And, it would be harder to take him to task over it.)

If ObamaCare state exchanges are funded by state money, then Roberts will find that the federal government should be funding all subsidies despite what the law said, and that because of the federal taxes that are levied. This will be a harder place to arrive, but Roberts will somehow do it, given his finding that ObamaCare is funded by ‘taxes’ and not ‘mandates’.


44 posted on 07/22/2014 2:58:19 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: PapaNew

“Gonna be hard for SCOTUS to analyze Obamacare again with Robert’s head stuck in the sand.”

Roberts would have ruled the Declaration of Independence unconstitutional, and he would have done so with more sound legal reasoning than he has ever displayed in Obamacare.


45 posted on 07/22/2014 3:35:11 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: xzins

Federal injustices like John Roberts regularly decided to invent a whole intent separate from that which was clearly written.

If congress has Intended something other than what was written congress would have written that instead of what they did. To infer any other intent is a lairs argument.

In this particular case Congressional democrats clearly passed this as a kind of Opt out clause. If Robert’s claims about the law’s unworkable are to have any merit they would have to recognize its clear opt-out provision.


46 posted on 07/22/2014 3:44:30 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Hostage

OK, first the obvious.

- The USA is basically lawless.
The “law” is whatever a left-wing neo-marxist ideological judge says it is to further their marxist agenda.
Natural law and rule of law is dead.

- Two, Roberts most likely was shown his NSA file with someone saying,
“ You know, be kind of a shame if this pics and this info of you being in the closet got out now wouldn`t it. Be much easier to just find the ACA legal and all this goes away.”


47 posted on 07/22/2014 4:10:14 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Monorprise; P-Marlowe

Krauthammer nailed this tonight, reminding me of info I’d forgotten from way back when. The democrat congress INTENTIONALLY didn’t fund non-state exchanges. They did so to FORCE STATES to enact a state exchange. The penalty was, if they didn’t do so, that they wouldn’t get to participate in the subsidies. The liberals thought that would force the unhappy states to enter the exchanges.

Most states still chose not to be a part of the exchanges. Now the democrats are trying to say their intent was to fund everyone. Krauthammer reminded me. That’s simply not true.


48 posted on 07/22/2014 4:34:46 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

I believe you have it right.


49 posted on 07/22/2014 4:35:47 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: xzins

If the intent was to subsidize everyone they would not have even mentioned the exchanges. They would have given the subsidy to everyone who was otherwise qualified.

This is a dishonest decision which is evidence that our courts are utterly corrupt.


50 posted on 07/22/2014 4:50:50 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

This makes it much harder for John Roberts to dodge. He can say the intent was to fund everyone, but it won’t be true.


51 posted on 07/22/2014 4:57:13 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: George from New England

..........thanks, saved me some typing!


52 posted on 07/22/2014 4:57:49 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: xzins

John Roberts is corrupt. He will do what he is told.


53 posted on 07/22/2014 5:01:34 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

Gaming this out, I think Hillary was always for single-payer. Most of the democrats really are for single payer. Saying that one Federal subsidy covers everyone is a quick road to single payer.


54 posted on 07/22/2014 5:06:28 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SeekAndFind

How can the fourth circus court really rely on an IRS ruling? The same IRS that illegally targets conservatives and loses all their emails suddenly has credibility?


55 posted on 07/23/2014 10:20:15 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: SeekAndFind

Our son’s health insurance went from $5508 per year to $8468 per year.

That is an increase of $2960 per year.

What happened to YOU CAN KEEP YOUR POLICY and YOU WILL SAVE $2500 per year?????????????????????????????????

(He is 30, healthy, never goes to a doctor, has never used his health insurance since I got it in 2011, plus he can’t use the new things that ObamaCare forces him to pay for like birth control pills, IUDs, etc He is a SINGLE MAN)


56 posted on 07/25/2014 1:55:16 PM PDT by buffyt (It is not a CHOICE, it is a CHILD OF GOD!)
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To: KevinB

I feel like I am watching Jack Nicholson and Faye Dunnaway in CHINATOWN.... Tax not a tax, a tax, not a tax, a tax, not a tax while Obama is slapping us over and over in the face.

In the movie Jack was slapping Faye over and over and over while Faye said My sister, my daughter, my sister, my daughter, my sister, my daughter...

I feel like Obama just slaps us all the time, then says, bend over and grab your ankles, here it comes. He really should be required to mail condoms to all of us, since we are screwed again and again!


57 posted on 07/25/2014 1:58:45 PM PDT by buffyt (It is not a CHOICE, it is a CHILD OF GOD!)
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To: buffyt
I feel like Obama just slaps us all the time, then says, bend over and grab your ankles, here it comes. He really should be required to mail condoms to all of us, since we are screwed again and again!

I'd say that sums it up nicely! :-)

58 posted on 07/25/2014 8:17:22 PM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: Our first black, gay, Kenyan, Muslim president!)
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