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U.S. flight ban could be Hamas' biggest success in latest clash with Israel
Washington Examiner ^ | Tuesday, July 22, 2014 | Spencer Brown

Posted on 07/22/2014 12:29:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler

Several airlines already had suspended operations or diverted flights.

The ban comes less than a week after a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 was shot down over Ukraine. For Hamas, it could be the biggest break the Islamist group has had since the most recent fighting started -- potentially increasing Israeli's physical and psychological isolation from the rest of the world. The airport handles about 14 million travelers a year.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hamas; israel
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This definitely would be a "coup" for Hamas!
1 posted on 07/22/2014 12:29:28 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

It’s only for 24 hours, though ...


2 posted on 07/22/2014 12:29:52 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Will Hamas shoot down an airliner? Talk about hatred. Why does the Hamas hate mankind?


3 posted on 07/22/2014 12:30:41 PM PDT by realcleanguy
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To: Star Traveler

I smell Valerie Jarrett.


4 posted on 07/22/2014 12:31:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: realcleanguy

They are a very vicious bunch.


5 posted on 07/22/2014 12:32:13 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: realcleanguy
Will Hamas shoot down an airliner?

Shoot down Hamas

6 posted on 07/22/2014 12:34:50 PM PDT by gasport (President Omoeba needs to evolve a spine)
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To: Star Traveler

It is not going to be for 24 hours. What scenario can you imagine in which the FAA lifts it in 24 hours?

This is another vicious attempt by the Obama administration to pressure Israel into accepting a cease fire that leadership — and the vast majority of Israel’s citizens — agree is not in Israel’s interest.

The decision plays into the hands of the BDS people as well.

I would expect nothing less from this US administration.


7 posted on 07/22/2014 12:35:21 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Piranha

“This is another vicious attempt by the Obama administration to pressure Israel into accepting a cease fire”

That was my exact first thought, as well....


8 posted on 07/22/2014 12:38:00 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Star Traveler

I can understand why Airlines are doing this..they don’t want another MH17 on their hands..either way you look at it Hamas is winning the media war, bringing out the Jew hate, your seeing it everywhere


9 posted on 07/22/2014 12:38:18 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Star Traveler

Leaves the way clear to lob stuff into Israel, right?


10 posted on 07/22/2014 12:38:45 PM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Star Traveler

Americans aiding terrorism


11 posted on 07/22/2014 12:38:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Star Traveler

The effects of Benghazi rears its ugly head.

All those missing SAMs?
Given/sold to those trying to defeat Assad in Syria?
The same group taking over Iraq?
The same group who recently pledged allegiance with Hamas?


12 posted on 07/22/2014 12:39:09 PM PDT by kidd
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To: GeronL

I would put the blame on Hamas ... :-) ...


13 posted on 07/22/2014 12:40:12 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SMARTY

Or gives Israel even more incentive to hammer Hamas with everything they’ve got to put a quicker end to this fight.


14 posted on 07/22/2014 12:41:50 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Piranha

Exactly how I read this as well.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 12:42:40 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I really don’t think Hamas is winning the media war, especially when the UN Secretary General strongly condemns Hamas and says that they must stop, and when the EU says that Hamas must be disarmed, and when Egypt is very strongly criticizing Hamas for neglecting their own citizens.

This media war is going very strongly against Hamas, even if Hamas is inflicting some damage on Israel in the military sphere.


16 posted on 07/22/2014 12:43:40 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Piranha

That’s what the notice says, EXPLICITLY.

Anything more is pure speculation.


17 posted on 07/22/2014 12:44:37 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: gasport

I think Israel is doing that ... :-) ...


18 posted on 07/22/2014 12:45:14 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Cecily

And it gives Israel more “legitimacy” in world capitals. It will spur Israel on.


19 posted on 07/22/2014 12:46:40 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I smell Valerie Jarrett.”

That cannot be a good thing.


20 posted on 07/22/2014 12:50:32 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Star Traveler

I guess it depends on what media people are watching..you watch CNN and they are not fans of Israel..Fox News is of course pro Israel but not everyone watches Fox News..I guess its like this, the ones who hate Jews and hate Israel are coming out of the woodwork now because they think its “Cool” to hate Jews, gives them media attention..the UN Secretary General was shown today the rockets that have been fired into Israel..maybe now he will finally get it


21 posted on 07/22/2014 12:52:38 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Star Traveler

Sadly, Israel will always lose the propaganda war. The world is evil, and against the G-d of Israel. The biggest haters of the State of Israel are those furthest from the G-d of Avraham, Yitzhak, and Yaakov.


22 posted on 07/22/2014 12:54:35 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Piranha

You are right on the money, that was my first thought too.


23 posted on 07/22/2014 12:55:13 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Star Traveler

Yes, true.

The issue here seems to be that Hamas dropped a rocket within about 5km of DBG Airport. There’s a vested interest, by some, in perpetuating the myth that Hamas is the oppressed victim. Having Hamas, even inadvertenly, drop a rocket onto a loaded airliner would be a PR disaster that would immediately award the moral upper hand to the Israelis.


24 posted on 07/22/2014 12:55:17 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Star Traveler

Oh yeah!! This is reeeeallly gonna win Hamas a lot more support internationally.

What is the ratio of dollars of AID WE provided to dollars spent shooting missiles at Israel?

Enquirin’ folk would like to know..

Stay out of the sand bunkers Mr. PRES__sent!!


25 posted on 07/22/2014 12:56:00 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

An odd mix of stupidity, arrogance, and simple rancid sweat - that’s the smell.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 12:56:34 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: tanknetter

You said ... “... drop a rocket onto a loaded airliner would be a PR disaster that would immediately award the moral upper hand to the Israelis.”

AND ... if that does happen, don’t anyone say that the Israelis were wishing for it to happen or that they helped Hamas do it, so the Israelis could gain the upper hand.

That statement is the STUFF that “conspiracy theories” are made of!


27 posted on 07/22/2014 1:00:17 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

If you want to check your common sense and experience at the door and do nothing more than share news stories, that is your business.

I understand Free Republic as a site where people talk about the news and share their insights. We are conservatives, and many of us long ago have learned not to take statements by the Obama administration at face value.

It is obvious that the FAA will not lift its order in 24 hours. We will see if I am wrong.


28 posted on 07/22/2014 1:03:30 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hamas is losing the battle diplomatically in the world’s capitals, even though they might gain an advantage, here and there, on the ground.


29 posted on 07/22/2014 1:04:58 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Piranha

It’s not “obvious” that the FAA will “not” lift this order. The reason why is that this is a fluid situation. One cannot predict it, and can only go by what was EXPLICITLY SAID.

Now, one can reasonably say that if the circumstance that caused this in the first place - CONTINUES - then the order will continue. And conversely, of the situation does not continue or repeat, the order will be lifted.

That’s what is called a fluid situation, and as it stands right now, the order is for 24 hours!

I’ll be one of the first to update Free Republic if that time frame is EXPLICITLY changed!


30 posted on 07/22/2014 1:10:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

I’d like to think it was the end of the road for Hamas,ya ever know, I’m sure Fatah agrees.

But like a hydra, there’s always a new pimple to take their place.


31 posted on 07/22/2014 1:10:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Star Traveler

I sense something big is going to happen in that Israel will go all out to clean out the rats nest. Just saying.


32 posted on 07/22/2014 1:10:59 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Piranha

If EL AL gets more business, then it means beyond 24 hours.


33 posted on 07/22/2014 1:12:38 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Tzfat

Amen.

Those who hate both the Jews and Israel, hate GOD.


34 posted on 07/22/2014 1:13:47 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Biggirl

Could very well be ... IF ... the airport remains closed. I would say that the airport is the key there ... namely if Hamas repeatedly attacks it. That is the one thing that would be intolerable.


35 posted on 07/22/2014 1:14:12 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Well, I certainly wouldn’t want to be flying into Tel Aviv right now - apparently one of the rockets pierced the “Iron Dome,” and Hamas has been boasting about how they want to take down a passenger plane. Pilots are refusing to fly the route and passengers are cancelling. This is only common sense, and Hamas would be even happier if the planes kept on flying and they actually did manage to get one.

The thing that nobody is noticing is how much more successful Hamas is in general this time around. They have killed a large number (relatively speaking) of Israeli soldiers and do seem to have gotten at least one rocket through the Iron Dome.

It probably had a thank you note to Obama attached to it, since it was the clandestine arming of the Syrian “rebels,” the precursors of ISIS, that got these higher quality arms into the hands of Hamas and a host of other seriously bad guys. He always supports the most militant Islamists.


36 posted on 07/22/2014 1:18:19 PM PDT by livius
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To: Biggirl

For sure El Al is getting more business. It is one of the only airlines that continues to serve Israel from the US and Europe and they have announced that they will not cancel flights.


37 posted on 07/22/2014 1:20:04 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Piranha
For sure El Al is getting more business.

How is Air Israel doing?


38 posted on 07/22/2014 1:21:56 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Well, the EU, of all organizations came out and told Hamas to stand down and disarm.


39 posted on 07/22/2014 1:22:41 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Star Traveler

What is “the circumstance that caused this in the first place” If it is not politics, then it is the missile that fell on the city of Yehud.

The only circumstance that would cause that circumstance would be for Israel to eliminate Hamas’s missile-firing capacity.

Nobody in Israel is speculating that this capacity will be eliminated within 24 hours.

The only thing that could happen within 24 hours — but will not — would be if Israel were pressured into a cease fire with Hamas.

There is no credible way that the FAA will lift this BDS squeeze on Israel.

As noted below, this is good to El Al Israel Airlines, but that is about the only positive that I see coming out of this craven action by the FAA.


40 posted on 07/22/2014 1:24:36 PM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Star Traveler
They've been attacking Ben Gurion since the beginning. Iron Dome took down four missiles the first or second day. The one that landed a mile or so away is the first that got through. If the FAA is serious about the risk, then the ban shouldn't be lifted until the risk from Gaza is extinguished. If they lift it in 24 hours, it was bogus. IMO, simply pressure to coincide with Kerry's visit to Egypt. Kind of a here's what we can do thing. Also my opinion only, but childish nonsense. This isn't going to intimidate the Israeli government.

BTW, there are rumors that there have been attempts to blind pilots with lasers coming from the West Bank. Not impossible that could be in play here.

41 posted on 07/22/2014 1:29:02 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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What is “the circumstance that caused this in the first place”


I'm shocked, shocked to find rockets are being fired from Gaza.

42 posted on 07/22/2014 1:30:58 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: kidd

My thoughts too.


43 posted on 07/22/2014 1:32:27 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: Star Traveler

This external islamoNai pressure or sanction definitely underscores the need for Israel to destroy as much of her local IslamoNazi enemy as possible as fast as possible


44 posted on 07/22/2014 1:37:23 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: SJackson

From another thread, here, it said this order was given because of a Hamas rocket landing about five kilometers away. I took that to mean that another one had not done that before. I actually have not read about Hamas rockets landing that close. I would have to see those reports before I would jump on that bandwagon ... :-) ...


45 posted on 07/22/2014 1:37:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler; 2ndDivisionVet; Piranha; Sarah Barracuda; kidd; Cecily

This give Israel no choice but to massively escalate their operation. They would be severely crippled with no air service.

I don’t see now how they can avoid retaking Gaza, doing some serious clean up and settling in for the long haul and try by whatever means to change the mentality of those people.

Tough, tough row ahead, but it can be done - the US did it with Japan after WWII. And ISIS is doing it rather quickly in their newly conquered territory. First thing they need to do is stop worrying about the world’s opinion.


46 posted on 07/22/2014 1:39:54 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: faithhopecharity

I do believe that Israel is in the process of doing as good of a job of that with Hamas, as they possibly can right now. If they were to do any more than this, Israel might have to call up more than the 74,000 they have already called.


47 posted on 07/22/2014 1:39:59 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: aquila48

You’ll know whether Israel is going to escalate or not - depending on whether they call up a massively larger amount. They have 74,000 called up right now. If they were to escalate, you’ll FIRST HEAR of a massive and further call up beyond that 74,000.


48 posted on 07/22/2014 1:42:30 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Piranha

The circumstance was a Hamas rocket hitting within five kilometers of the airport according to one of the other Freeper articles on it.

That specific thing ... was the “circumstance”.


49 posted on 07/22/2014 1:46:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: kidd

That whole region sounds like it’s loaded with SAMs and MANPADs. I’m surprised that we don’t hear about shootdowns every day/week/month.


50 posted on 07/22/2014 1:48:40 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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