Skip to comments.U.S. flight ban could be Hamas' biggest success in latest clash with Israel
Posted on 07/22/2014 12:29:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler
Several airlines already had suspended operations or diverted flights.
The ban comes less than a week after a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 was shot down over Ukraine. For Hamas, it could be the biggest break the Islamist group has had since the most recent fighting started -- potentially increasing Israeli's physical and psychological isolation from the rest of the world. The airport handles about 14 million travelers a year.
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It’s only for 24 hours, though ...
Will Hamas shoot down an airliner? Talk about hatred. Why does the Hamas hate mankind?
I smell Valerie Jarrett.
They are a very vicious bunch.
Shoot down Hamas
It is not going to be for 24 hours. What scenario can you imagine in which the FAA lifts it in 24 hours?
This is another vicious attempt by the Obama administration to pressure Israel into accepting a cease fire that leadership — and the vast majority of Israel’s citizens — agree is not in Israel’s interest.
The decision plays into the hands of the BDS people as well.
I would expect nothing less from this US administration.
“This is another vicious attempt by the Obama administration to pressure Israel into accepting a cease fire”
That was my exact first thought, as well....
I can understand why Airlines are doing this..they don’t want another MH17 on their hands..either way you look at it Hamas is winning the media war, bringing out the Jew hate, your seeing it everywhere
Leaves the way clear to lob stuff into Israel, right?
Americans aiding terrorism
The effects of Benghazi rears its ugly head.
All those missing SAMs?
Given/sold to those trying to defeat Assad in Syria?
The same group taking over Iraq?
The same group who recently pledged allegiance with Hamas?
I would put the blame on Hamas ... :-) ...
Or gives Israel even more incentive to hammer Hamas with everything they’ve got to put a quicker end to this fight.
Exactly how I read this as well.
I really don’t think Hamas is winning the media war, especially when the UN Secretary General strongly condemns Hamas and says that they must stop, and when the EU says that Hamas must be disarmed, and when Egypt is very strongly criticizing Hamas for neglecting their own citizens.
This media war is going very strongly against Hamas, even if Hamas is inflicting some damage on Israel in the military sphere.
That’s what the notice says, EXPLICITLY.
Anything more is pure speculation.
I think Israel is doing that ... :-) ...
And it gives Israel more “legitimacy” in world capitals. It will spur Israel on.
“I smell Valerie Jarrett.”
That cannot be a good thing.
I guess it depends on what media people are watching..you watch CNN and they are not fans of Israel..Fox News is of course pro Israel but not everyone watches Fox News..I guess its like this, the ones who hate Jews and hate Israel are coming out of the woodwork now because they think its “Cool” to hate Jews, gives them media attention..the UN Secretary General was shown today the rockets that have been fired into Israel..maybe now he will finally get it
Sadly, Israel will always lose the propaganda war. The world is evil, and against the G-d of Israel. The biggest haters of the State of Israel are those furthest from the G-d of Avraham, Yitzhak, and Yaakov.
You are right on the money, that was my first thought too.
The issue here seems to be that Hamas dropped a rocket within about 5km of DBG Airport. There’s a vested interest, by some, in perpetuating the myth that Hamas is the oppressed victim. Having Hamas, even inadvertenly, drop a rocket onto a loaded airliner would be a PR disaster that would immediately award the moral upper hand to the Israelis.
Oh yeah!! This is reeeeallly gonna win Hamas a lot more support internationally.
What is the ratio of dollars of AID WE provided to dollars spent shooting missiles at Israel?
Enquirin’ folk would like to know..
Stay out of the sand bunkers Mr. PRES__sent!!
An odd mix of stupidity, arrogance, and simple rancid sweat - that’s the smell.
You said ... “... drop a rocket onto a loaded airliner would be a PR disaster that would immediately award the moral upper hand to the Israelis.”
AND ... if that does happen, don’t anyone say that the Israelis were wishing for it to happen or that they helped Hamas do it, so the Israelis could gain the upper hand.
That statement is the STUFF that “conspiracy theories” are made of!
If you want to check your common sense and experience at the door and do nothing more than share news stories, that is your business.
I understand Free Republic as a site where people talk about the news and share their insights. We are conservatives, and many of us long ago have learned not to take statements by the Obama administration at face value.
It is obvious that the FAA will not lift its order in 24 hours. We will see if I am wrong.
Hamas is losing the battle diplomatically in the world’s capitals, even though they might gain an advantage, here and there, on the ground.
It’s not “obvious” that the FAA will “not” lift this order. The reason why is that this is a fluid situation. One cannot predict it, and can only go by what was EXPLICITLY SAID.
Now, one can reasonably say that if the circumstance that caused this in the first place - CONTINUES - then the order will continue. And conversely, of the situation does not continue or repeat, the order will be lifted.
That’s what is called a fluid situation, and as it stands right now, the order is for 24 hours!
I’ll be one of the first to update Free Republic if that time frame is EXPLICITLY changed!
I’d like to think it was the end of the road for Hamas,ya ever know, I’m sure Fatah agrees.
But like a hydra, there’s always a new pimple to take their place.
I sense something big is going to happen in that Israel will go all out to clean out the rats nest. Just saying.
If EL AL gets more business, then it means beyond 24 hours.
Those who hate both the Jews and Israel, hate GOD.
Could very well be ... IF ... the airport remains closed. I would say that the airport is the key there ... namely if Hamas repeatedly attacks it. That is the one thing that would be intolerable.
Well, I certainly wouldn’t want to be flying into Tel Aviv right now - apparently one of the rockets pierced the “Iron Dome,” and Hamas has been boasting about how they want to take down a passenger plane. Pilots are refusing to fly the route and passengers are cancelling. This is only common sense, and Hamas would be even happier if the planes kept on flying and they actually did manage to get one.
The thing that nobody is noticing is how much more successful Hamas is in general this time around. They have killed a large number (relatively speaking) of Israeli soldiers and do seem to have gotten at least one rocket through the Iron Dome.
It probably had a thank you note to Obama attached to it, since it was the clandestine arming of the Syrian “rebels,” the precursors of ISIS, that got these higher quality arms into the hands of Hamas and a host of other seriously bad guys. He always supports the most militant Islamists.
For sure El Al is getting more business. It is one of the only airlines that continues to serve Israel from the US and Europe and they have announced that they will not cancel flights.
How is Air Israel doing?
Well, the EU, of all organizations came out and told Hamas to stand down and disarm.
What is “the circumstance that caused this in the first place” If it is not politics, then it is the missile that fell on the city of Yehud.
The only circumstance that would cause that circumstance would be for Israel to eliminate Hamas’s missile-firing capacity.
Nobody in Israel is speculating that this capacity will be eliminated within 24 hours.
The only thing that could happen within 24 hours — but will not — would be if Israel were pressured into a cease fire with Hamas.
There is no credible way that the FAA will lift this BDS squeeze on Israel.
As noted below, this is good to El Al Israel Airlines, but that is about the only positive that I see coming out of this craven action by the FAA.
BTW, there are rumors that there have been attempts to blind pilots with lasers coming from the West Bank. Not impossible that could be in play here.
I'm shocked, shocked to find rockets are being fired from Gaza.
My thoughts too.
This external islamoNai pressure or sanction definitely underscores the need for Israel to destroy as much of her local IslamoNazi enemy as possible as fast as possible
From another thread, here, it said this order was given because of a Hamas rocket landing about five kilometers away. I took that to mean that another one had not done that before. I actually have not read about Hamas rockets landing that close. I would have to see those reports before I would jump on that bandwagon ... :-) ...
This give Israel no choice but to massively escalate their operation. They would be severely crippled with no air service.
I don’t see now how they can avoid retaking Gaza, doing some serious clean up and settling in for the long haul and try by whatever means to change the mentality of those people.
Tough, tough row ahead, but it can be done - the US did it with Japan after WWII. And ISIS is doing it rather quickly in their newly conquered territory. First thing they need to do is stop worrying about the world’s opinion.
I do believe that Israel is in the process of doing as good of a job of that with Hamas, as they possibly can right now. If they were to do any more than this, Israel might have to call up more than the 74,000 they have already called.
You’ll know whether Israel is going to escalate or not - depending on whether they call up a massively larger amount. They have 74,000 called up right now. If they were to escalate, you’ll FIRST HEAR of a massive and further call up beyond that 74,000.
The circumstance was a Hamas rocket hitting within five kilometers of the airport according to one of the other Freeper articles on it.
That specific thing ... was the “circumstance”.
That whole region sounds like it’s loaded with SAMs and MANPADs. I’m surprised that we don’t hear about shootdowns every day/week/month.