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General: Guard to Take Observation Role at Border
ABC ^ | 7/22/2014 | Christopher Sherman (AP)

Posted on 07/22/2014 3:12:54 PM PDT by South40

A top National Guard general says most of the 1,000 troops heading to South Texas will take up observation positions along the border and detain people only if they interfere with their mission.

Texas Adjutant General John Nichols told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the troops will help deter illicit traffic amid a record spike of unaccompanied minors crossing the border. Republican Gov. Rick Perry announced the Guard's involvement Monday.

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Political theater.
1 posted on 07/22/2014 3:12:54 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Nothing short of turning them back at the border will work.


2 posted on 07/22/2014 3:28:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek; South40; a fool in paradise

They’re just going to watch?

What is the point except drain our treasury?


3 posted on 07/22/2014 3:29:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: South40

So basically, no one is going to do anything. Our entire politcal class is against us.


4 posted on 07/22/2014 3:31:36 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: cripplecreek
Nothing short of turning them back at the border will work.

Yep. How much Texas taxpayer money was just spent on the equivalent of 1,000 UN Observers?

5 posted on 07/22/2014 3:34:27 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: South40
That's exactly what I was afraid would happen.
Observe. No mandate to actually do anything.

6 posted on 07/22/2014 3:36:26 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: GeronL
What is the point except drain our treasury?

The point, best I can tell, is to fool the masses into believing Rick Perry actually opposes the ILLEGAL invasion and is attempting to do something about it. From some of the comments I have read in this forum, it has, at least to some degree, been effective.

7 posted on 07/22/2014 3:38:20 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

I guess they are going to put them down there with binoculars instead of weapons. The Border Patrol has already been neutered with orders not to fire their weapons because they will be receiving no more ammo. Just wait till a drug gang ambushes and kills some of the Guard observers. That’s going to go over real well. Is there anyone in a leadership position who has a brain?


8 posted on 07/22/2014 3:39:35 PM PDT by ImNotLying
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To: cripplecreek
Nothing short of turning them back at the border will work.

Absolutely. But that's not going to happen as it would be considered politically incorrect. So the invasion continues with an added cost of observers.

9 posted on 07/22/2014 3:39:48 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

What a waste.


10 posted on 07/22/2014 3:40:29 PM PDT by dforest
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To: South40

I knew it! Perry is a fraud! He’s just wasting the good citizens of Texas hard-earned tax dollars.


11 posted on 07/22/2014 3:40:42 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: BitWielder1
That's exactly what I was afraid would happen.
Observe. No mandate to actually do anything.

High cost political theater.

12 posted on 07/22/2014 3:40:50 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: BitWielder1

Yep, me too. I was initially thrilled to see the headline, but within 15 seconds I thought... bet they have no authority, no guns, no nothing.

Utter shame. And this is TEXAS! Aren’t they supposed to show the rest of us how it’s done?


13 posted on 07/22/2014 3:41:19 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
So basically, no one is going to do anything. Our entire politcal class is against us.

I would agree save for very few real conservatives. Ted Cruz for one.

14 posted on 07/22/2014 3:41:56 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: GeronL

Will they be standing watch with beanbags again?


15 posted on 07/22/2014 3:48:36 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: South40

If it’s just for appearances and the NG are neutered, maybe they could just stuff 1000 straw soldiers and hang a uniform on them, like they did in the film, The Patriot.


16 posted on 07/22/2014 3:49:33 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: South40
Shoot to kill.

If they can't do that, then shoot to wound...

17 posted on 07/22/2014 3:50:41 PM PDT by Gritty (Obama's governing as president of a Latin American republic, where only the president matters-MSteyn)
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To: vette6387
I knew it! Perry is a fraud!

Of course he is. He uttered this gem regarding ILLEGAL alien children back in 2001, and I have seen no credible evidence that his thinking has changed. Note, he called ILLEGAL aliens "Texans".

“To punish these young Texans for their parents` actions is not what America has always been about.” ~Texas Governor, Rick Perry

18 posted on 07/22/2014 3:52:08 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: RitaOK

lol!


19 posted on 07/22/2014 3:52:50 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: Gritty

I would be happy if they just stopped and/or prevented ILLEGAL entry into our country. Repel the invasion! Anything less is a joke...an expensive joke.


20 posted on 07/22/2014 3:54:24 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: a fool in paradise

Will they even have beanbags this time? Nerf rounds?


21 posted on 07/22/2014 3:56:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: South40

I confess I thought you might get a kick out of that imagery.
Rita


22 posted on 07/22/2014 3:58:41 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: South40

And yet some want him for President.


23 posted on 07/22/2014 4:05:04 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: RitaOK

I did. Thanks! :-)


24 posted on 07/22/2014 4:06:14 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

Yep. That is ALL it is. Don’t worry tho, the Globalist, illegal lovin’ LaRaza Riccardo Perrynist’s fan girls will be in soon to tell us all how wrong we all are for not buying into his latest fraud/fake scam move. Go Rickeeeeee, go!! Look at his hair! He wears cowboy boots! He carries a gun!!! (Cue Frankie Sinatra Bobbie-soxers like swooning from Riccardo’s toadies here......sigh).


25 posted on 07/22/2014 4:10:12 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: CynicalBear
And yet some want him for President.

Yes, they do. They were downright giddy when they heard he was sending in the Guard. Most knew it was political theater that would accomplish nothing. Count me as being among the latter.

26 posted on 07/22/2014 4:10:17 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: GeronL

Beanbags are racist!


27 posted on 07/22/2014 4:16:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: bobby.223
lol!

Perry fans can swoon over his looks all they want. What they can't do is convince anyone that Perry is anything but the pro-ILLEGAL alien liberal his record proves him to be.

If you want to know what Rick Perry reallly thinks abotu ILLEGAL alien children see Post# 18.

28 posted on 07/22/2014 4:16:52 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: cripplecreek

I am thinking that, ‘Shoot on Sight’, orders might stem the flow of illegals...


29 posted on 07/22/2014 4:20:50 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: South40
Count me among the disappointed.

From the article;
"National Guard troops...will take up observational positions and detain people only if they interfere with their mission"

So, if anyone comes along and tries to stop (the Texas National Guard) from taking a position for observing, that person may find them self being detained.

Yeah okay. Whatever.

30 posted on 07/22/2014 4:24:43 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: South40

WalMart greeters.


31 posted on 07/22/2014 4:31:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: South40
you can bet flyer's are already printed and passed out to the illegals to pay no attention to those soldiers at the border they will not stop or arrest you. Lawyers are probably already counseling the illegals in Mexico on what to say if they are stopped and questioned. Complete waste of money. Secure the border! Arrest, fingerprint, document and put on the next bus back to Mexico. Cutting off aid and trade with Mexico would rectify this issue within a week or two! We need leaders who know how and have the balls to lead the country!
32 posted on 07/22/2014 4:34:19 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: South40

Perry is a fool. Just as I suspected the Guard will be useless.


33 posted on 07/22/2014 4:34:27 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: South40
Political theater.

This is all about Perry's candidacy for president.

Ted Cruz - 2016!

34 posted on 07/22/2014 4:37:30 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
Ted Cruz - 2016!

YES! Ted Cruz is the only conservative from Texas.

If Perry had his way Cruz would never have made it to Washington. Yet another reason to reject Perry.

35 posted on 07/22/2014 4:39:57 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

will they be changing diapers too?


36 posted on 07/22/2014 4:40:16 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: South40

When I parsed the verbiage being used when this was announced a few days ago, I labeled it 100 Proof Texas Longhorn Male Bovine Feces. I didn’t think he’d actually SEND the Guard to the Border.

But now I see it’s even WORSE than that. He’s sending the Guard, but it will result in merely the pi$$ing away of a ton of taxpayer money by saddling the Troops with assinine rules of non-engagement.


37 posted on 07/22/2014 4:50:17 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: South40

When I parsed the verbiage being used when this was announced a few days ago, I labeled it 100 Proof Texas Longhorn Male Bovine Feces. I didn’t think he’d actually SEND the Guard to the Border.

But now I see it’s even WORSE than that. He’s sending the Guard, but it will result in merely the pi$$ing away of a ton of taxpayer money by saddling the Troops with assinine rules of non-engagement.


38 posted on 07/22/2014 4:50:30 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: rainee
will they be changing diapers too?

That is funny, until one realizes it may be true. :-P

39 posted on 07/22/2014 4:52:16 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: Tucker39

I apologize for the repeat reply above, but twice today, when I clicked “POST” it appeared as though nothing happened, so after waiting 10 to 15 seconds I clicked it again and.....MY bad.


40 posted on 07/22/2014 4:58:17 PM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Yes, we are being ruled by those ruling against the will of the people. The people want defined and enforced borders, like every other country on earth. We do not want illegal aliens, many who are criminals and drug dealers invading.

However, imagine what would happen if ONE illegal alien is harmed by a national guardsman. The media would go ape$#@$, and that is all you would hear 24/7 for weeks. The NG is trained to kill people and break things. It does not matter that 600+ have died over the past few years in one border county, and there are many tiny bodies that were found around the border crossings. The media will never cover that, because it does not support their agenda.

The national guard is, basically handcuffed by our propagandist media. That is the main reason we are so confused as a nation. They (the media) choose the stories that fit their agenda, then harp on them 24/7 as a means of achieving their ideologue goals. They ignore or spike all stories that do not fit their agenda.


41 posted on 07/22/2014 5:04:01 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: South40

Meet the new La Raza Rickie, same as the old La Raza Rickie. He’s a worthless DemocRat.


42 posted on 07/22/2014 5:05:30 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: workerbee

“Utter shame. And this is TEXAS! Aren’t they supposed to show the rest of us how it’s done?”

Perry doesn’t have a conservative bone in his body. I moved to Texas from the radical progressive state of Oregon four years ago. Texas is asleep at the wheel. Most all of the natives and locals here have adopted the attitude that liberalism will never take hold here so they turn a blind eye. This state will be blue in 2016. They all think I’m nuts as more and more liberal ideas take hold in this state.


43 posted on 07/22/2014 5:29:33 PM PDT by Oregon Betsy Ross
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To: cripplecreek

Perry could have saved Texans a whole lot of money by just having TXDOT Welcome Center workers go down there and hand out road maps and tourist brochures to illegals.


44 posted on 07/22/2014 6:20:29 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: TADSLOS

I don’t know why they aren’t just crossing at official crossings. They’re going to get in anyway.


45 posted on 07/22/2014 6:39:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Oregon Betsy Ross

I’m afraid denial is a tributary of the Trinity.


46 posted on 07/22/2014 6:41:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: South40; ImNotLying; workerbee; a fool in paradise; GeronL; Logical me; Tucker39
Nichols said troops will be armed for their safety, but when asked if their weapons would be loaded would say only that ammunition would be in magazines.

"That's about as far as I want to go because if the cartel folks understand what we can and can't do then they may take advantage of that," Nichols told The Associated Press.

OPSEC

You have heard it discussed here before but now you don't get it?

You folks are smarter than that.

.

47 posted on 07/22/2014 6:46:31 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI
You have heard it discussed here before but now you don't get it?
You folks are smarter than that.

I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. Care to explain?

48 posted on 07/22/2014 6:50:16 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

There have been several discussions at various times here on FR regarding OPSEC.

That is all you are seeing in the limited statement by Nichols to the press.

.


49 posted on 07/22/2014 6:58:34 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: TLI

Ahhh...thanks.


50 posted on 07/22/2014 7:01:00 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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