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El Al says there is 'no chance' it will cancel flights to, from Israel
The Jerusalem Post ^ | Tuesday, July 22, 2014 | Niv Elis and Lahav Harkov

Posted on 07/22/2014 3:51:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler

European and US airlines suspend flights to and from Israel after rocket falls 5km from Ben Gurion; El Al has historically continued flight service during times of war. Israeli airline El Al said it would not cancel any flights as air travel to Israel from all American carriers and several European ones came to a halt on Tuesday after the Federal Aviation Authority banned US airlines from traveling to and from Ben Gurion Airport for 24 hours.

"There is no chance we will stop operations," an El Al spokesman told the Post.

In labor disputes with the government, El Al has argued that it is the only airline the country can rely on to continue flying during tough security times, and that Israel should foot more of the bill for its security needs. During the 1991 Gulf war, every airline but El Al suspended service to Israel.

The FAA's decision followed the successful firing of a Hamas rocket into a house in Yehud, near Ben Gurion Airport, earlier in the day.

"The FAA immediately notified US carriers when the agency learned of the rocket strike and informed them that the agency was finalizing a [Notice to Airmen]" prohibiting the flights, an FAA statement read.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hamas; israel
Fly El Al ... :-) ...
1 posted on 07/22/2014 3:51:48 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Israel Transportation Minister: Cancellation of Flights to Israel Gives a ‘Prize to Terror’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183687/posts

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/22/israel-transportation-minister-cancellation-of-u-s-flights-to-israel-is-a-prize-to-terror/

Israel’s Transportation Minister Yisrael Katz said on Tuesday that the just announced cancellation of European and U.S. flights to Israel handed a victory to terrorism.

“There is no reason for the American companies to stop their flight and give a prize to terror,” Katz said, according to Jerusalem Post correspondent Niv Elis.

On Tuesday, four major U.S. airline carriers announced their decision to cancel flights heading to Israel indefinitely, one specifically citing the danger of Gaza rocket attacks near Israel’s Ben Gurion airport.

Shortly after the airlines announced their decision, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said it told all U.S. airlines that flights to the airport are prohibited for 24 hours, according to The Associated Press. German carrier Lufthansa nixed all flights to and from Tel Aviv for the next two days, according to an ABC News correspondent, and Air France also suspended its flights to Israel.


2 posted on 07/22/2014 3:53:46 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

U.S. flight ban could be Hamas’ biggest success in latest clash with Israel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3183630/posts

http://washingtonexaminer.com/u.s.-flight-ban-could-be-hamas-biggest-success-in-latest-clash-with-israel/article/2551124

Several airlines already had suspended operations or diverted flights.

The ban comes less than a week after a Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 was shot down over Ukraine. For Hamas, it could be the biggest break the Islamist group has had since the most recent fighting started — potentially increasing Israeli’s physical and psychological isolation from the rest of the world. The airport handles about 14 million travelers a year.


3 posted on 07/22/2014 3:54:11 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
the Federal Aviation Authority banned US airlines from traveling to and from Ben Gurion Airport

Smells like Obama.

4 posted on 07/22/2014 3:54:37 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Star Traveler

Once again...The Terroristas win.


5 posted on 07/22/2014 3:54:46 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Star Traveler

:-) El Al is the best..more expensive but worth it..you will never get on a safer airline than El Al


6 posted on 07/22/2014 3:55:24 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Star Traveler

Dang man. I love Israel. The only sane country right now.


7 posted on 07/22/2014 3:56:41 PM PDT by PapaNew (Freedom always wins the debate in the forum of ideas)
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To: Star Traveler

If you ever notice an El Al jet parked at any U.S. airport, you might notice they have around-the-clock armed security in place.

El Al is safer because, among other defensive measures, they have missile defense systems on their aircraft.

And we will too, sometime after the first American airliner is shot down.


8 posted on 07/22/2014 3:57:22 PM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)
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To: Star Traveler

Love it.


9 posted on 07/22/2014 4:07:26 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Star Traveler

There is a difference between the leader of Israel and the leaders of the US and Europe.

Strong, fearless, determined versus the 1930’s whimps, whusses, cowards, yellow-bellies, spineless jellyfish.

Who would you want to be our leader today, Netanyahu or Obama/Kerry/Hagel, Merkel, Hollande?, etc.?


10 posted on 07/22/2014 4:10:00 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Star Traveler
Today (July 23, Israel time) is the 46th anniversary of the One and Only El Al Hijacking .
11 posted on 07/22/2014 4:10:45 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Star Traveler

I will fly El Al when I go, I have been wanting to go


12 posted on 07/22/2014 4:11:00 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Star Traveler
The FAA does not use NOTAMS to prohibit flights over various international routes. The reason they are called "Notices to Airman" is that they are "be careful, or be aware" notices. The way the FAA did this today is extremely political. Because they do not have the authority to close a route that is established by multilateral agreements between countries - they simply made it against the law for U.S. certificated airmen from operating in Israeli airspace. As well they did the same for U.S. registered aircraft.

In other words, the United State Federal Aviation Agency just created prohibited airspace for US pilots and aircraft around a sovereign nation. This really is unprecedented. For example, no such rule applies to Somalia or Cuba. Even the EU Aviation Safety Agency did not do this. They did what the FAA normally does: issue a strong caution - but not prohibition. That is what is weird, and makes this a completely political decision.
13 posted on 07/22/2014 4:15:05 PM PDT by Tzfat
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14 posted on 07/22/2014 4:15:45 PM PDT by SJackson (government tampers with a freedom so fundamental, one shudders to think what lies ahead. Card Dolan)
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To: Tzfat

I was just reading that four major USA airlines cancelled their flights to Israel - indefinitely - and before any order came out from the FAA. So I’m thinking that this action by those four major USA airlines pushed the FAA into acting. Of course I can’t be sure that it did, but those four major USA airlines did it on their own.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 4:23:07 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Aww. Don’t they understand? The only reason there are rockets landing near Ben Gurion is because the stubborn Jooos! won’t give back the entire West Bank for piece. If only they did, then the Mujaahidoon would be able to lob mortar shells at the airport from Itamar, thereby making funds available to feed poor hungry Palis via Hamas./s


16 posted on 07/22/2014 4:26:06 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: yldstrk

I will fly El Al when I go, I have been wanting to go

ME TOO


17 posted on 07/22/2014 4:27:04 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (we shouldn't fear the government. the government should fear us.)
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To: Star Traveler

If I were going to Israel, I would ;-).


18 posted on 07/22/2014 4:28:38 PM PDT by Tax-chick (No power in the 'verse can stop me.)
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To: Star Traveler
In the 1967 Six Day War, a young girl who had been a college classmate of mine the spring semester before, had dual Israeli-American citizenship. When the war began, she was called up. She flew to NYC where she literally sat in the airport waiting room for three days, waiting for a flight priority. (She poured money into a pay phone every couple of hours to find out if she had received one.)

Two days into the fighting, she received her priority. She flew out on El Al. The Israeli Air Force would meet inbound commercial flights over the Mediterranean and escort the planes into Ben Gurion.

When she arrived, she was assigned to a unit that picked up Egyptian POWs, as she was fluent in Egyptian Arabic.

The Israeli Air Force didn't lose one commercial airliner, if I recall correctly.
19 posted on 07/22/2014 4:35:02 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

Interesting ...


20 posted on 07/22/2014 4:38:01 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Israel and El Al get some things right. They have a history of experience that the US didn’t have up to 9/11. It’s a shame that the US got all politically correct and didn’t follow Israel’s lead after 9/11. We basically waste million upon millions of dollars on fake security while making it more difficult for honest, law abiding Americans to travel. It’s the nanny state at its worst.


21 posted on 07/22/2014 4:42:26 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“El Al is the best..more expensive but worth it..you will never get on a safer airline than El Al”

Very true but if you hate the TSA security checks. El Al is probably not for you :)


22 posted on 07/22/2014 4:55:23 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Star Traveler

Rocket lands ‘near’ an airport in Israel, ALL FLIGHTS MUST BE CANCELED!

Two military planes shot down in Eastern Ukraine, no problems at all


23 posted on 07/22/2014 4:57:08 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: montanajoe

That’s true..but at the end of the day, you know when you get on an El Al plane, you are 100 percent safe..yes the security checks can be a hassle, but its worth it..your life is worth the extra hassle


24 posted on 07/22/2014 4:57:17 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Star Traveler

I love El Al (Hebrew for God’s Airline?)

I Love Israel.


25 posted on 07/22/2014 5:02:49 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Viennacon

Flights that overfly that area are routed away from there now, after the shootdown.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 5:06:19 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: montanajoe

If you “trip” any of their profiles or something “gets them” about you ... you will miss your flight and you’ll be in for a very grueling ordeal that will last for hours ... this according to some people who have innocently run afoul of the profiling.

I would just leave and go home and give up your vacation ... LOL ...


27 posted on 07/22/2014 5:10:32 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

El Al security people have often said,

“Americans are looking for weapons. We’re looking for terrorists.”

Not a hijacking attempt against El Al since 1968, IIRC.


28 posted on 07/22/2014 5:14:43 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

El Al Security are former IDF people so your in good hands. Last June I went to Israel for my sisters wedding(They both live here in LA now but his family lives in Israel) you should have seen how tight security is for any El Al flight, you have a police escort to the plane..cop cars travel with you until you arrive at the plane then you go through security again..once you get to Israel, they ask you the typical questions, why are you here, who are you visiting, how long are you staying..that is why my family won’t fly any airline except for El Al, knock on wood its the safest airline to fly


29 posted on 07/22/2014 5:21:46 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Star Traveler

their jets have anti-missile countermeasures.


30 posted on 07/22/2014 5:34:35 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

As far as anyone knows, Hamas has no SAMs. The “fear” apparently is of dumb rockets hitting the runway or terminal or something.


31 posted on 07/22/2014 5:35:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Star Traveler

If the leaders of the U.S. and European countries consider Hamas evil enough to target innocent people on airliners, why don’t they support Israel in its effort to destroy the evil Hamas?

If Israel doesn’t win the current war, Hamas will be empowered to expand its evil ways. How much harder would it be for Hamas to send a rocket into a plane landing in New York or Paris than one landing in Israel? In fact, it would be easier in other countries, since Ben Gurion Airport is protected with advanced technology such as the Iron Dome.

If a group of ragtag separatists in Eastern Ukraine can blow up a commercial airliner with 298 people aboard, why can’t a group of ragtag Hamas terrorists do the same in any country in the world they want to? Certainly, if thousands of illegal immigrants can cross our borders undetected, so can terrorists carrying missile launchers to set up near American airports.

Yet the world is howling that the Israelis are the bad guys when the Israelis are the only guys good enough to fight against terrorists so they won’t be able to expand their operations and end up blowing airliners out of the sky at an airport near you.


32 posted on 07/22/2014 5:39:36 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: Bluestocking

The EU just called for the disarming of Hamas today. And the Secretary General of the United Nations said that Hamas had to immediately cease their firing at Israel. But, of course both those things are going to require enforcement.


33 posted on 07/22/2014 5:47:00 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

It doesn’t work that way. Delta operations started the ball rolling, mostly likely in close coordinated with the FAA (every airline has risk assessment teams that work closely with their local FAA office). UAL’’s afternoon flight was next, after the FAA issued their NOTAM. US Airways cancelled only tonight’s flight after the FAA issued their NOTAM. US Airways is going day to day.


34 posted on 07/22/2014 5:51:34 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: yldstrk
By all means, GO! Israel is a beautiful country with very friendly Jewish residents (I can't vouch for any of the Arab ones---all they did was scowl at us when we visited Hebron in a bus with bullet-proof glass windows--I scowled right back at the b___.) See the awe-inspiring Kotel (Western Wall) and other significant religious sites. And try the delicious food. Make sure to treat yourself to the fish and pasta dishes in restaurants. The fruits and veggies are mostly grown right there. No one has tomatoes as good as Israel! The hotel buffets are legendary and the food is so wonderful and plentiful. There are fascinating museums, wonderful family-friendly zoos and parks, and EVERYWHERE you go is archaelogy and artifacts. Ein Gedi has beautiful waterfalls and nature trails as well as ancient pagan temples, can't remember if they're Greek or Roman. There is the Dead Sea with its soothing mud. There are the Bahai Gardens in Haifa, which are of unearthly beauty. There is the sparkling turquoise Mediterranean to behold. There are shops and markets with cool stuff to buy, anything from souvenir t-shirts to religious items. Visit the Biblical Zoo in Jerusalem, with many of the animals mentioned in the Torah. Visit Masada and see how the Jewish zealot residents had to make the heart-rending decision that they did. Go tubing on the Jordan River. Visit a kibbutz and see their local industry, be it agriculture or woodworking. Go for a boat ride across Lake Kinneret (AKA sea of Galilee), it's fun. See the building housing the graves of the patriarchs and matriarchs (unfortunately under Arab supervision). Visit local wineries and sample their goods. Walk through the ancient cisterns under Jerusalem.

For such a tiny country, there is a LOT to do, whether it's to refresh your spiritual soul, delight your eyes, enlighten your knowledge of history, or just have fun.

35 posted on 07/22/2014 5:57:31 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Tzfat

Quoting from an article ...

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On Tuesday, four major U.S. airline carriers announced their decision to cancel flights heading to Israel indefinitely, one specifically citing the danger of Gaza rocket attacks near Israel’s Ben Gurion airport.

— — —

Israel Transportation Minister: Cancellation of Flights to Israel Gives a ‘Prize to Terror’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3183687/posts?page=35

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/22/israel-transportation-minister-cancellation-of-u-s-flights-to-israel-is-a-prize-to-terror/


36 posted on 07/22/2014 6:19:03 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: EinNYC

It sounds fab, I want to make aliyah even though I never got the chance to be Jewish


37 posted on 07/22/2014 6:24:59 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: left that other site
LOL! God's Earline... I love it! Seriously, it is אל על‎, meaning "To The Skies".
38 posted on 07/22/2014 6:30:08 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Former Fetus

That’s Good Too!

:-)


39 posted on 07/22/2014 6:31:10 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: GeronL

thanks. :-)


40 posted on 07/22/2014 6:35:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: zipper

It may force American carriers to end up doing just that.


41 posted on 07/22/2014 6:41:42 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Bluestocking

BINGO! We have a WINNER!


42 posted on 07/22/2014 6:44:19 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Star Traveler
El Al flights have SAM warning systems and countermeasures (flares, chaff, jammers). They are the only commercial carrier in the world that have them.
43 posted on 07/22/2014 6:53:58 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Star Traveler

.........no problem with me, no way I would fly anywhere over there at this time!


44 posted on 07/22/2014 7:46:54 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: EinNYC; MinuteGal

Man, you ought to be a tourist guide. You sold me. I’d love to go to Israel, but I probably won’t be able to. It sounds wonderful. I have had many Israeli friends, and they all loved their country. Thanks for finally allowing us to have a very positive report on the beauties of Israel and why one should go there. I love Israel in spirit. May she be there forever.


45 posted on 07/22/2014 8:46:38 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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To: flaglady47
Thanks. When I really believe in something, I can sell it. If only every "product" was as wonderful as Israel. Here's some of my pics from my trip:

City of David, Jerusalem

Machpela

Inside Machpela, where the patriarchs and matriarchs are buried. This man is kissing the plaque, commemorating the grave of Jacob. The actual graves are far beneath the multi-story building.

The Kotel (Western Wall)

The young guardians of Israel, may they be blessed. They enter the army for obligatory service right out of high school.

An archaeologist explaining how the Arabs destroyed Jewish artifacts on the Temple Mount and dumped the rubble into the town dump, and how we were going to help out by sifting some of the rubble. I myself found some 1,000 y.o. Byzantine tile and other stuff. Some kids in our group found ancient coins.

Looking down at the Bahai Gardens from hotel room in Haifa.

Kibbutz Kfar Etzion, in the Gush Etzion region. This is where King David was born, where the Maccabees revolted against the Romans--and where Arabs slaughtered innocent Jewish kibbutzniks in the 1948 massacre. Five hundred and thirty five Jewish men and women held off an armed force ten times their size. 157 were killed. 128 of them massacred after surrender. I saw photos of people with their hands hacked off to stumps, gruesome hack wounds on bodies, people hacked up beyond recognition, murdered Jewish children.

The bunker where wounded, women and children took shelter. Arabs tossed a grenade into this bunker, killing all inside.

The Lone Oak, a 700 year old tree which was the only tree remaining in the area. After the destruction and slaughter of the 4 kibbutzim comprising the Gush Etzion communities, the survivors and their children would gather every year under this oak which became known as the "Lone Oak". After the 6-Day War, the children of the original kibbutzniks returned and reestablished their destroyed community. This tree is regarded as a symbol of renewal and continuity.


46 posted on 07/22/2014 11:04:24 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Star Traveler

The FAA ban has been extended for another 24 hours!


47 posted on 07/23/2014 9:44:35 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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