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Border Sheriffs Perplexed by Rick Perry's Plan to Send 1,000 Troops to Stare at Mexico
Yahoo News ^ | 7/22/2014 | Arit John

Posted on 07/22/2014 10:36:13 PM PDT by South40

Why would you spend millions of dollars sending troops to the border who can't actually detain anyone? That's what some Texas sheriffs of border towns are asking in the wake of Gov. Rick Perry's plan to send 1,000 National Guards members to the Texas/Mexico border in the next month, according to the Dallas Morning News. For them, it would be more useful to spend the money on hiring more deputies and police, aka people who are allowed to detain migrants.

“I don’t know what good they can do,” Cameron County Sheriff Omar Lucio told the Dallas Morning News. “You just can’t come out here and be a police officer.” Lucio and other sheriffs said they weren't consulted before Perry's announcement and, in Lucio's opinion, the police and Border Patrol agents were handling the small uptick in crime. "At this time, a lot of people do things for political reasons. I don’t know that it helps,” Lucio said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegalsinvasion; nationalguard; nationalsecurity; rickperry; texas

1 posted on 07/22/2014 10:36:13 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40
"At this time, a lot of people do things for political reasons. I don’t know that it helps,”

Looks like someone's got La Raza Rick figured out.

2 posted on 07/22/2014 10:37:16 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

The sheriffs don’t like the national guard on “their turf”


3 posted on 07/22/2014 10:40:37 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: South40

I am sooo sick of self serving politicians.


4 posted on 07/22/2014 10:42:32 PM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: South40

1,000 nat’l guard troops? that it??

1900 miles of border between Texas and mexico. that’s 1 guy for every 2 miles. not effective.

20,000 troops would be better. 10 guys for every mile


5 posted on 07/22/2014 10:48:12 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

Your numbers assume all 1000 would be present at the same time. I think they might work in shifts meaning about 1/3 of them (333) would be present at any one time, which puts them about 1 every 5.7 miles. This was pure political theater.


6 posted on 07/22/2014 10:51:34 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

“At this time, a lot of people do things for political reasons. I don’t know that it helps,”

I wonder if that includes the publisher of this propaganda piece.

Did the author ask the sheriffs what the hell good they’re doing?


7 posted on 07/22/2014 10:52:33 PM PDT by stanne
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To: South40

People had the same complaint when Bush sent them to the border but the traffic stopped immediately when they did.

They set up and they watch the border and when they see an illegal they call the BP.


8 posted on 07/22/2014 10:53:42 PM PDT by tiki
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To: sten

If I could, I’d post a picture of A.A. Milne’s Eyore.


9 posted on 07/22/2014 10:53:46 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

10 posted on 07/22/2014 10:58:30 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: sten

No, darlin’. That’d be 1241 miles.

The NG has the power to detain.


11 posted on 07/22/2014 11:00:13 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: South40

IIRC, every time we'd go near the Korean demilitarized zone (DMZ) we had to wear MP brassards, as seen above, no matter what our actual job title was. Why couldn't they do the same in this situation?

12 posted on 07/22/2014 11:03:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: South40
Well if you are going to announce you are sending the National Guard to the border and at the same time announce they can't detain anyone and will just be observers what do you expect. We need leaders! Get with the border Sheriffs and border town police and come up with a plan to secure the border. Leave the press conferences to Obama! Take action and lead! Slow down every border crossing by swarming the road ways with police and strictly enforce traffic laws. Do vehicle inspections on trucks after they have crossed the border, etc. When you hear Mexico start complaining you know it is working so double down. No need to hold press conferences, let your actions speak for themselves. When Mexico starts complaint tell them to secure their border or we will
13 posted on 07/22/2014 11:04:04 PM PDT by martinidon
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To: tiki
They set up and they watch the border and when they see an illegal they call the BP.

And then the BP does what it does now, process them, feed them and put them on a bus with a destination somewhere in small town America.

14 posted on 07/22/2014 11:04:49 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40

One thousand is all that he can afford. Add up the costs of a thousand Army guys, their housing pay, etc.

To be truthful....for the 1,900 miles of Texas border...you’d have to have around 50,000 troops to maintain adequate security. Toss in New Mexico, California, and Arizona. You’d probably have to have around 150,000 troops. That would mean pulling every soldier in South Korea, Italy, Germany, and Alaska....to make this work.


15 posted on 07/22/2014 11:07:10 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: shibumi

It’s bad bad. Everything is all wrong I’m sooo poor! Rick Perry is wrong. It’s all baaaad!


16 posted on 07/22/2014 11:07:16 PM PDT by stanne
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To: pepsionice

Point taken. It was a worthless gesture meant to fool the foolish.


17 posted on 07/22/2014 11:13:55 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: JohnBrowdie
The sheriffs don’t like the national guard on “their turf”

A bunch of soldiers with no ammo in their weapons and no authority to shoot even if they did, is no help at all.

18 posted on 07/22/2014 11:21:05 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The NG has the power to detain.

So does the Border Patrol or ICE but then they feed and clothe them, render medical service then put them on a bus or plane and send them into our cities to be serviced by the taxpayer until the next election, where they will repay us for our kindness.

19 posted on 07/22/2014 11:24:51 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: itsahoot

No doubt.


20 posted on 07/22/2014 11:27:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: South40

Deputize them.


21 posted on 07/22/2014 11:31:18 PM PDT by Argus
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To: South40

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22 posted on 07/23/2014 12:19:42 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

There was no need for you to do all that work (unless anyone else cares). I know the woman is a far left kook. And given the color of her skin she’s no doubt taking orders from the Obama admin. But, thanks, I guess.


23 posted on 07/23/2014 12:28:25 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40
South40 wrote: " There was no need for you to do all that work (unless anyone else cares). I know the woman is a far left kook. And given the color of her skin she’s no doubt taking orders from the Obama admin. But, thanks, I guess."

You're welcome, South40. If you knew she was a far left kook, then why bother giving her nonsense credence?

Reading a local Pennysaver beats muddling through a lefty's scribbles, plus there's a chance of finding a Sudoku puzzle inside a Pennysaver. Ain't we got fun. /s



24 posted on 07/23/2014 12:47:32 AM PDT by bd476
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To: bd476

Thanks for exposing this minor league propagandist.

May they all share Goebbels fate


25 posted on 07/23/2014 12:48:18 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Rome2000
You're welcome, Rome2000, thanks for your kind comment.

While I don't begrudge freedom of speech, mere exposure to lefty nonsense
which has been issued forth as "news" is more damaging to the senses than reading
graffiti scrawled on the walls of a gas station restroom.

/less productive, too


26 posted on 07/23/2014 1:05:53 AM PDT by bd476
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To: South40
Mexico Concerned about Texas’ Plan to Deploy National Guard on Border
27 posted on 07/23/2014 2:00:25 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: bd476
If you knew she was a far left kook, then why bother giving her nonsense credence?

I don't believe I or anyone else here has given her nonsense credence. I posted her piece because it provided quotes from the sheriffs' of South Texas. Did you know their opinion of Perry's worthless gesture of bringing up the guard? I didn't, and I'm sure many who have read it didn't either. Anyway...

I've eaten at Roberto's in Del Mar, not sure if there is another.

28 posted on 07/23/2014 2:04:07 AM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: South40
South40 wrote: " 'If you knew she was a far left kook, then why bother giving her nonsense credence?'

I don't believe I or anyone else here has given her nonsense credence. I posted her piece because it provided quotes from the sheriffs' of South Texas. Did you know their opinion of Perry's worthless gesture of bringing up the guard? I didn't, and I'm sure many who have read it didn't either. Anyway... "

Perhaps it is a matter of perception. Nonsense at the beginning is no less nonsense if repeated or if a quote is added. Nonsense repeated often enough unfortunately becomes believed, but still remains nonsense. If a writer lies or greatly exaggerates one part of a story, then how would someone determine if any other part is truthful?

The writer's history then is relevant and demonstrates the writer's pattern of deceit. Toss out the entire article when the opening premise fails. The story doesn't get better, the truth doesn't somehow magically appear, quote or not. How often have people been misquoted yet very few bother reading the correction the next day and even less connect it to the original story and even less change their original perception from their first errant read.

South40 wrote: "I've eaten at Roberto's in Del Mar, not sure if there is another."

There's a Roberto's in Ocean Beach on Voltaire Street right down by the beach, about a block away. The O.B. Roberto's is where I've seen Rolls Royces, Porsches, Beamers, Range Rovers lined up in the drive-thru. There are many Roberto's all over San Diego County - there's one in Old Town, one in Oceanside ... well here's the link Robertos Locations

After looking at that link I have to admit I'm a little sad to see that instead of moving North, they went East and now have many Roberto's in Nevada. Good for Nevada, sad for anyone North of San Diego. :(


29 posted on 07/23/2014 3:21:56 AM PDT by bd476
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To: BuckeyeTexan; sten

No, darlin’. That’d be 1241 miles. The NG has the power to detain.
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Also, several hundred miles of the TX border would require scaling cliffs up to 400 feet high.

IMO, the people saying the NG can’t detain illegals is wrong. Posse Comatatis (sp?) restricts the military from acts against US citizens. ...It doesn’t restrict acts against border invaders.


30 posted on 07/23/2014 4:12:22 AM PDT by octex
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To: South40

Liberal sheriffs speak up. Can’t make Obama look bad. Btw wizeazzes. The thousand guards aren’t meant to cover the entire border. They are for specific hot spots (ie Rio Grande). There are miles and miles of border that is a dead zone.


31 posted on 07/23/2014 4:14:32 AM PDT by nhwingut (This tagline for lease)
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To: South40

Then you do NOT understand the mission of Security.

Even banks have a lazy ass person sitting in their lobby because “A BODY does some deterring of criminals, that’s a fact.

Have you visited your Congressman? If no, why not? It is not only up to Perry. You need to let your Congressman know that a do nothing Congress is not acceptable. That’s YOUR job, have you done it yet?


32 posted on 07/23/2014 4:16:03 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: itsahoot

A bunch of soldiers with no ammo in their weapons and no authority to shoot even if they did, is no help at all.
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What’s the source of that statement that they will have no ammo or authority to shoot?


33 posted on 07/23/2014 4:19:59 AM PDT by octex
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To: South40

I am FAR from a Rick Perry fan, but giving our Boarder Patrol an extra 1,000 persons to help out with ANYTHING, even taking out the trash, will help them DO THEIR JOB, assuming their bosses in DC allow it.

...and their instructions can, and likely will, change. It is certainly better than doing nothing and just whining.


34 posted on 07/23/2014 4:36:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

General comment for those who are wondering about TX NG law enforcement authority etc.

Posse Comitatus applies to Federal troops- meaning that NG on State Duty are not necessarily limited by PC. They can be granted LE powers to arrest detain etc. PC applies to NG only when on Federal Duty as US Army personnel.

There are more details and specifics, but Gov. Perry could give them a fairly wide amount of LE authority.


35 posted on 07/23/2014 4:56:10 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Manly Warrior

Perhaps the Texas Gov. should give the order to “shoot on sight” anyone close or near to the American side of the border. That just might reduce the number who try to cross illegally. Would that make the Sheriff’s happy?

(Geeesh, that might even work)


36 posted on 07/23/2014 5:41:16 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: South40
Seems to me the sheriffs want the money...

The NG isn't being sent to patrol the border but to relieve the BP of taking care of illegals so they can do their job ...patrolling the border.

37 posted on 07/23/2014 5:48:26 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: DaveA37

http://publicintelligence.net/national-guard-domestic-law-enforcement-operations-guide/

Link to the NGB reg regarding SAD and LE operations....


38 posted on 07/23/2014 6:03:29 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: bd476; South40

Nice dodge with respect to the opinions and quotes of the Border Sheriffs.


39 posted on 07/23/2014 6:43:40 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: DaveA37; Manly Warrior
Everyone has forgotten what happened when Clinton sent the Marines to the border.

They mistakenly killed a Mexican American teenager.

The kid was grazing the goats and didn't know the Marines were close by. He was plinking with a 22, the marines thought he was shooting at them and killed him.

That event will drive the terms and conditions under which the prez or a guv sends active duty or reserve to the border.

40 posted on 07/23/2014 7:55:46 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: sten
>>1900 miles of border between Texas and mexico. that’s 1 guy for every 2 miles. not effective.<<

You don't understand the capabilities of rifles. A mile is not that far when you are shooting.

Long range precision shooting covered in detail.
85 videos that will guide you through each step in learning how to hit long range targets. Introduce your rifle to the world of long range targets.

41 posted on 07/23/2014 8:48:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

a mile is 1760 yards. very few can make such a shot reliably and repeatedly

there’s no reason not to schedule 10+ troops to monitor/guard each mile in 3 shifts (3-4 active per shift), overseen by a command structure that allows for backup to be deployed where needed.


42 posted on 07/23/2014 9:16:26 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten
there’s no reason not to schedule 10+ troops to monitor/guard each mile in 3 shifts (3-4 active per shift), overseen by a command structure that allows for backup to be deployed where needed.

A fence is a good solution for Arizona, New Mexico and California, where the border runs cross-country.

Texas and the Rio Grande River, however, present a separate problem. And it is instructive how Israel has defended the Jordan River border between the West Bank and Jordan. The desert terrain is quite similar to Texas, as well.

Israel built a border fence that resembles a stock fence, about 6' tall with gates, about a kilometer back from the river. It's not intended to be an obstacle but instead serves to define the border area. The actual border defense is provided by frequent observer posts and inter-linked strong points with machine gun positions. Only a small percentage of these are manned at any one time, but reinforcements can be emplaced rapidly.

Sounds pretty much like what you're suggesting.

43 posted on 07/23/2014 9:34:23 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ign<i>orance on parade.)
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To: sten

My eyes are no longer what they once were but I am confident I could keep you from advancing upon my position. The misses would be close enough to make you wonder where the next one will hit.

Anyone who takes the time to view those 85 videos and spend a few days at a 500 yard range will be able to keep attackers at bay unless they are also well prepared..


44 posted on 07/23/2014 9:45:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: octex
>>>Posse Comatatis (sp?) restricts the military from acts against US citizens. ...It doesn’t restrict acts against border invaders.

Posse Comatatis doesn't apply here. These soldiers will be on State Title 32 status. PC only applied to Federal, Title 10 forces.

45 posted on 07/23/2014 3:24:38 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: sten
>>>20,000 troops would be better. 10 guys for every mile

And HOW are you going to pay for that? That would be about $30 million a week...give or take a few million. The only way would be for the state to withhold federal taxes to pay for it...and I'm not sure anyone is ready for that yet. It may get there eventually but it ain't there yet.

46 posted on 07/23/2014 3:27:11 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: octex
What’s the source of that statement that they will have no ammo or authority to shoot?

If they issue ammo it will be the first time since LA Riots.

47 posted on 07/24/2014 9:40:09 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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