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California Pot Farms Use 50% More Water than City of San Francisco
Breitbart ^ | 23 Jul 2014 | Chriss W. Street

Posted on 07/23/2014 8:09:34 AM PDT by george76

Scientists with the California Department of Fish and Wildlife are warning that streams harboring endangered salmon and steelhead could go dry because of the heavy water consumption by marijuana growers.

During the growing season, California “pot farms” consume 60 million gallons of water a day. That equals 50% more than is consumed by the entire city of San Francisco.

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Two men were arrested were arrested last week at a Santa Cruz County pot farm that state authorities said used diverted stream water and threatened steelhead trout and endangered Central Coast Coho salmon. The raid netted 180 mature marijuana plants from a 6-acre property said California Fish and Wildlife spokesman Andrew Hughan.

An anonymous tip led Fish and Wildlife officials to the sophisticated operation where it is believed that hundreds of thousands of gallons of water had been illegally redirected from the south fork of San Vicente Creek

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Nevada; US: Oregon; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: cannabis; marijuana; pot; potfarms; water; wod
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1 posted on 07/23/2014 8:09:34 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

potheads only need munchies ,water blah ,LOL


2 posted on 07/23/2014 8:11:18 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: george76

Industrial potheads, meet the environazis.

Environazis, meet the industrial potheads.


3 posted on 07/23/2014 8:11:46 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: george76

One has to love the fact that California will soon become either a third world country...or if they’re lucky...a below sea level part of the Pacific following the big one.

At least the latter possibility will eliminate the drought problem.


4 posted on 07/23/2014 8:12:07 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: george76

This will be interesting. Two core democrat constituencies in direct conflict. Will pot trump the enviros?


6 posted on 07/23/2014 8:15:30 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Da Coyote

Every state that embraces the drug culture will become third world. The users will defend their usage to the end while the walls crumble around them. Itsf no use arguing with a blind man over what color the sky is.

BTW - unintended consequences suck don’t they, CA?


7 posted on 07/23/2014 8:15:42 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: sphinx

> This will be interesting. Two core democrat constituencies in direct conflict. Will pot trump the enviros?

Whatever stuffs the pockets of politicians the most wins...


8 posted on 07/23/2014 8:17:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Da Coyote
Maybe ... just maybe ... SOMEone is going to step back and look at California from afar and realize ... We are SO F'd up ... and that someone will have the cajones and clout to clean the politics and kick out all the gummint agencies and all those "California, here I come" happy songs ring true once again

Those songs and sentiments are only about 70 years old.


Naaahhhhh

9 posted on 07/23/2014 8:22:35 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: molson209

‘potheads only need munchies ,water blah ,LOL”

Apparently you’ve never had cottonmouth. ;)


10 posted on 07/23/2014 8:22:39 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Paine in the Neck

I heard a story on FOX news last night about a california couple that are being warned by the city about using too much water for irrigation (possible $500 fine), soon after their HOA sent ‘em a letter warning them that if they didn’t keep up their yard and let the turf and plants die the HOA was gonna fine ‘em.

Ya gotta love that. lol


11 posted on 07/23/2014 8:26:06 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Da Coyote

A third world country?
Yah, a third world country that produces twice the agricultural output
as Texas, the next leading agricultural state in the nation. That doesn’t
seem to say much for the rest of the country.


12 posted on 07/23/2014 8:26:30 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Paine in the Neck

that might call for some popcorn...


13 posted on 07/23/2014 8:27:19 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: V_TWIN
I heard a story on FOX news last night about a california couple that are being warned by the city about using too much water for irrigation (possible $500 fine), soon after their HOA sent ‘em a letter warning them that if they didn’t keep up their yard and let the turf and plants die the HOA was gonna fine ‘em.

"That ditch is Boss Kean's ditch. And I told him that dirt in it's your dirt. What's your dirt doin' in his ditch?"

14 posted on 07/23/2014 8:28:44 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: george76

60 million gallons of water per day? Wow.

There are 1100 golf courses in California which require on average 300,000 gallons each. That’s 330,000,000 gallons of water per pay.

Get rid of the gold courses.


15 posted on 07/23/2014 8:31:21 AM PDT by H8Libs
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To: george76

California golf courses consume more than a third of a billion gallons of water per day. Is your problem with water usage or marijuana? If it’s with water usage, you should be making a post calling for all courses to be shut down.


16 posted on 07/23/2014 8:31:22 AM PDT by H8Libs
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To: H8Libs

Only water the ones where Baraq is scheduled to play!


17 posted on 07/23/2014 8:33:03 AM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: dfwgator

Yep, california..........it figures.


18 posted on 07/23/2014 8:35:26 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: george76
(Casual marijuana use may come with some not-so-casual side effects)


19 posted on 07/23/2014 8:39:08 AM PDT by yoe (.)
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To: V_TWIN

KottonMouth Kings


20 posted on 07/23/2014 8:40:05 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: yoe

What’s a hippy to do, now that pot is bad for the environment?


21 posted on 07/23/2014 8:40:48 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
What’s a hippy to do, now that pot is bad for the environment?

Ignore inconsistencies in logic and always go for the argument that helps you smoke that weed?
22 posted on 07/23/2014 8:47:35 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: dfwgator

Guess they’ll have the pot but nothing to P,,S in it.


23 posted on 07/23/2014 8:55:53 AM PDT by glyptol
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To: george76

I think this article is hooey. Hemp is well known for needing minimal upkeep, irrigation, pesticide, or fertilizer.

Marijuana, as a form of hemp, mostly needs to have all male plants culled to limit fertilization. The way this article is talking, marijuana uses as much water as traditional rice farming.


24 posted on 07/23/2014 9:06:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: george76
During the growing season, California “pot farms” consume 60 million gallons of water a day.

<yawn> "In an average year California agriculture irrigates 9.6 million acres using roughly 34 million acre-feet of water" (http://www.water.ca.gov/wateruseefficiency/agricultural/) which works out to 30 BILLION gallons a day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acre-foot).

25 posted on 07/23/2014 9:16:26 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: george76

They got Al Capone for tax evasion.

They’ll get his great-grandson for water diversion.


26 posted on 07/23/2014 9:25:38 AM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: dfwgator

Paint your lawn green! The only industry here in Humboldt County is weed! All others have been chased out by enviros.


27 posted on 07/23/2014 9:32:18 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn┬ĺt make any sense at all." -- Pres. Reagan)
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To: george76
60 mil sounds impressive, but a small stream will pass that in a day.
28 posted on 07/23/2014 9:32:34 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: AZLiberty

“Forget it, Jake, it’s Chinatown.”


29 posted on 07/23/2014 9:33:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: H8Libs
California golf courses consume more than a third of a billion gallons of water per day. Is your problem with water usage or marijuana? If it’s with water usage, you should be making a post calling for all courses to be shut down.

er... um... That's different! One is pot, the other is golf.

No more questions!

30 posted on 07/23/2014 9:54:34 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: george76

Math fail: SF population @ 825K, average per capita H2O usage in SF = 88 gallons (still very low) = 72 MGD.

Which is 20% HIGHER than the 60 MGD mentioned.

Facts. They are not that hard to figure out.


31 posted on 07/23/2014 10:08:15 AM PDT by ready2brd
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To: Sivad

California only became democrat a couple of decades ago, it takes a while to bring down what used to be, give it some time.


32 posted on 07/23/2014 10:18:11 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Paine in the Neck

If only there were a way to turn pot farming into a gay-dominated enterprise, there’d be no controversy.


33 posted on 07/23/2014 10:18:49 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: george76

Who would have guessed that potheads would break the law?


34 posted on 07/23/2014 10:22:26 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ansel12

According to you and your dorky past posts, ancel, California
has always been a bastion for the Democrats. You post so
much crap to various people that you forget what you are
doing. I would appreciate it if you would ignore me and my
posts and I will gladly do the same for you.


35 posted on 07/23/2014 11:03:55 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Say, how has the salmon fishing been out of Trinidad?
I have an emergency fishing trip up there next week.
Staying in McKinleyville.


36 posted on 07/23/2014 11:10:28 AM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: jsanders2001
Every state that embraces the drug culture will become third world.

I don't know about "embraces the drug culture", but I'm going to wait and see if Washington State (Microsoft, Boeing, Amazon, Trident Submarine Base, etc.) becomes third world. Not going to hold my breath, though.

Didn't advocates of continuing prohibition say the same kinds of things?

37 posted on 07/23/2014 11:19:51 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Sivad

You are simply lying.

I would like to see those posts where instead of calling California a largely republican state in the past, I called it a “bastion for democrats”.

Rather than lie, let’s see you try to prove your point.

If you are too ignorant of California to discuss it, you don’t need to try a dishonest personal attack to avoid the topic, just don’t post on things that you don’t know about.


38 posted on 07/23/2014 11:24:59 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: george76

Going to come a time when between recreational crops and fuel crops, there won’t be anyone domestically raising produce.


39 posted on 07/23/2014 12:16:14 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: ansel12

You aren’t worth the time, ancel. And, that is because you like to
make up stupid stuff like California circa 1960s voted ‘rino/libertarian’
(or was it ‘libertarian/rino’?). You got your nose sniffing around anytime
somebody invokes the word “Texas” and then you are butt-hurt to
the point of striking out even if Texas is NOT being attacked. In this
case I pointed out to another CA critic that we are by far the top ag
producer and that the number 2 state is Texas. That is not a criticism of
Texas, it is just a FACT.

So make your asinine point, I’m waiting. After that, leave me alone.
I won’t measure up to your version of conservatism and you won’t
measure up to my less myopic version of conservatism.


40 posted on 07/23/2014 1:57:30 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Sivad

You sure seem to have plenty of time to make dishonest, inaccurate and nasty personal attacks.

It is gibberish, but you seem to dislike Texas as well, and for some reason you are lying about me posting something about Texas.

All I did was post this, and it set you off in a rage.
To: Sivad
California only became democrat a couple of decades ago, it takes a while to bring down what used to be, give it some time.
32 posted on 7/23/2014 10:18:11 AM by ansel12

Care to explain what is in that simple post that set you off into raging ramblings?

Are you aware that you are not supposed to drag around your personal grudges from thread to thread, and try to stir up personal grudges and battles, look at this thread and explain what in the heck you are raging about.
Which post of mine is related to what you are spewing out and all your hostility and anger?


41 posted on 07/23/2014 2:08:27 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: george76

>> “During the growing season, California “pot farms” consume 60 million gallons of water a day.” <<

.
They have water meters?

Gotta call BS on their numbers. It would take dams and pumps to get that kind of volume.


42 posted on 07/23/2014 2:11:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: H8Libs
get rid of the golf courses

With fertilizers causing pollution runoff and the excessive use of water for those perfect courses, something should've been done. Why not find grasses that grow easily naturally and don't need more than the rain in an area?

Assuming the water crisis that seems to be emerging is real, that's an argument for not growing no nutrition tobacco and pot in areas that require water resources that impact supply. Same with the ski slope situation. A lot of water doesn't get off the mountains and into the water supply because of snowmaking. Ski slopes should be accountable for not drying up the water resources.

It's been said for years that the wars that tear the US apart will be water wars.

43 posted on 07/23/2014 2:19:20 PM PDT by grania
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To: ansel12

Rage? No. Annoyed? Most definitely.

Apparently, you throw rocks at so many different posters you can’t
remember one from another. If you care to research then check the
posting history. I just ask you to leave me alone because it is no
better to stock someone than it is to carry a grudge from one thread
to another. Your MO is to divide people and not to unify just like other
CA haters who make blanket comments. I don’t need it.


44 posted on 07/23/2014 2:46:10 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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You are raging, and about something from some past thread evidently since there is no hint on this thread at what set you off on this nasty personal attack while avoiding any serious posting or any effort to support your wild attacks.

You are raving in a way that makes no sense. Post 32 is accurate, and it is simple, with no reason for you to have exploded in rage and nasty attacks.

If you disagree with with post 32, just disagree with it, so far you haven’t.
To: Sivad
California only became democrat a couple of decades ago, it takes a while to bring down what used to be, give it some time.
32 posted on 7/23/2014 10:18:11 AM by ansel12


45 posted on 07/23/2014 2:52:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Do you have any idea what posting history is? I
am talking about a prior thread from awhile back.
You come across others cannot be conservative
if they don’t tow your line completely.

I don’t give two dead flies what you call rage.
Your post 32 is OPINION! If you don’t like
my “rage” then don’t stick your nose into
my posts. I don’t much care for you because
of the above stated reasons and, yes, I have
followed some of your interactions w/others.


46 posted on 07/23/2014 5:30:08 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Sivad

So you admit to stalking, that explains why none of your posts to me were related to this thread or my post to you.

I have no idea what you are rambling about, or what old thread so scarred you that you can’t move on, but you need to stop the personal attacks and force yourself to focus on the thread, and our posts.


47 posted on 07/23/2014 5:39:38 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

If it were me stalking you I would be jumping into your dialog
with others. No, that is your MO. Your typical boorish behavior
causes me to avoid you. All I ask is that you treat me likewise.

You won’t have to worry about “personal attacks” if you don’t
respond to my dialog with other posters. Your post #32 wasn’t
even germaine to my prior post about the agricultural worthiness
of California, anyway. You stuck your nose in it most likely because
I invoked “Texas” even though I wasn’t being critical. BTW, I
try to keep my criticisms central to liberalism. Little good comes
from painting everyone from one place with the same broad brush.
Many good conservatives in CA. I could appreciate what posters like
you do if you would take your act to lib sites. But you like to pick
fights w/those who you should be treating like allies.


48 posted on 07/23/2014 6:52:15 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal red turf)
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To: Sivad; Da Coyote

Well, let’s try this again then and see if we can get you off the personal and onto the thread.

When someone posted this early in the thread about drug farming in California using up valuable resources.:
To: george76
One has to love the fact that California will soon become either a third world country...or if they’re lucky...a below sea level part of the Pacific following the big one.
At least the latter possibility will eliminate the drought problem.
4 posted on 7/23/2014 8:12:07 AM by Da Coyote

You posted this:
To: Da Coyote
A third world country?
Yah, a third world country that produces twice the agricultural output
as Texas, the next leading agricultural state in the nation. That doesn’t
seem to say much for the rest of the country.
12 posted on 7/23/2014 8:26:30 AM by Sivad

And then I posted this very relevant, but simple post in response to yours:
To: Sivad
California only became democrat a couple of decades ago, it takes a while to bring down what used to be, give it some time.
32 posted on 7/23/2014 10:18:11 AM by ansel12

Now would you care to respond to my post 32, or is obviously true and there is nothing really to say?


49 posted on 07/23/2014 7:06:21 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: george76

The pot farms are at least 50% more useful than San Francisco.


50 posted on 07/23/2014 7:09:11 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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