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Ben Carson on 2nd Amendment: People Can 'Protect Themselves From an Overly Aggressive Gov'tí
cnsnews.com ^ | 7/22/2014 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 07/23/2014 9:34:02 AM PDT by rktman

Carson added that gun rights under the 2nd Amendment are “vitally important,” that he “would never compromise the 2nd Amendment in any way,” and that one of the first things dictators do is confiscate people’s weapons, which “we don’t ever want to allow” in America.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; bencarson; drcarson; guncontrol
I seem to remember him being a little "iffy" on the 2nd in the past. Did I misread something?
1 posted on 07/23/2014 9:34:03 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

He started off iffy about guns but has come around. I’m just not sure how much is heart felt conviction and how much is political expediency.


2 posted on 07/23/2014 9:39:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: rktman

A bit of damage control, me thinks.


3 posted on 07/23/2014 9:39:36 AM PDT by QDaddy
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To: rktman

Well, that’s the silliest argument. There will be no frontal assault and, well, if there is ... drones, tanks, technology beyond reason, etc.

However, we do have the right to bear arms. It can protect us against many things. But to think it would protect us from a determined government is laughable.


4 posted on 07/23/2014 9:39:57 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: rktman

His prior comments

“Asked by Beck for his thoughts on the Second Amendment, Carson gave the popular pro-gun argument: “There’s a reason for the Second Amendment; people do have the right to have weapons.”

But when asked whether people should be allowed to own “semi-automatic weapons,” the doctor replied: “It depends on where you live.”

“I think if you live in the midst of a lot of people, and I’m afraid that that semi-automatic weapon is going to fall into the hands of a crazy person, I would rather you not have it,” Carson elaborated.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/conservative-hero-ben-carson-to-beck-you-have-no-right-to-semi-automatic-weapons-in-large-cities/


5 posted on 07/23/2014 9:42:01 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Will it be useful to take the driver out as he’s taking a dump outside his tank? Or the fuel truck driver? Or any number of other soft targets?

There are 80 million gun owners in the US.


6 posted on 07/23/2014 9:44:10 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RIghtwardHo; rktman
However, we do have the right to bear arms. It can protect us against many things. But to think it would protect us from a determined government is laughable.

Yeah, I'd bet a million dollars the British, the most powerful military nation on earth at the time, were thinking the same nonsense when a group of farmers and business men squared off against them as well.
7 posted on 07/23/2014 9:51:22 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: RIghtwardHo

If “drones, tanks, technology beyond reason, etc.” were supremely effective we’d have won in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, the Balkans, etc., etc. yet we didn’t. Why was that, do you think?


8 posted on 07/23/2014 9:57:17 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: driftdiver
Those terrifying semi autos have saved a lot of lives in Detroit.

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Shot 4 times and still managed to return fire hitting 2 of 3 assailants.

I don't think she was dumping black powder down the bore.
9 posted on 07/23/2014 9:57:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
He started off iffy about guns but has come around.

He's learning the words but can he sing the melody?

10 posted on 07/23/2014 9:58:12 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: RIghtwardHo

The key to your argument is a “Determined Government”. A determined government must have a taste for the blood of the governed. The chances of us having a military willing to move against our people is tempered by the strength of our governors and their influence over the national guard. As a nation we are yet to large for central command and control and have sufficiently divided authority so as to make protecting one’s self from the government remains a second amendment issue.
Barack, Harry and company are working to fix that.


11 posted on 07/23/2014 9:59:01 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: rktman
I seem to remember him being a little "iffy" on the 2nd in the past. Did I misread something?

No, he's probably starting to take all this "Carson for President" talk seriously.

12 posted on 07/23/2014 10:01:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: RIghtwardHo

Disagree - There is a post (very old) on FR, “What can one man do against an army” or similar title.

Worth reading...


13 posted on 07/23/2014 10:11:24 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: RIghtwardHo
However, we do have the right to bear arms. It can protect us against many things. But to think it would protect us from a determined government is laughable.

4GW

Just $.02.
14 posted on 07/23/2014 10:15:37 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: RIghtwardHo

Who said anything about a frontal assault?


15 posted on 07/23/2014 10:22:38 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: Steamburg
The chances of us having a military willing to move against our people is tempered by the strength of our governors and their influence over the national guard.

Given this thread from last year, the governors [in general] have zero strength when it comes to exercising their authority against the federal government. I mailed, via registered mail, nearly all the governors — of the replies that I got back most were of the this is a federal issue strain.

16 posted on 07/23/2014 10:41:02 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I like his recent comment before his appointed speaking time to the effect of, "Law abiding citizens should not be out-gunned by the police".

If he becomes POTUS, maybe he can get 18 USC 922(o), or heck, Chapter 4 of the GCA of 68 turned over!

17 posted on 07/23/2014 10:41:38 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: rktman

I also remember him being a little “iffy” on the Second Amendment. A month or so ago I received a phone call that was supposedly a poll but was directed towards Dr. Carson and fund raising for him. As I recall they read a statement by him. I said I didn’t know enough about him to support him at this time but wouldn’t rule it out in the future or donate at this time. I brought up the Second Amendment issue and indicated it meant a lot to me and that I believed he had sidestepped it or not been explicit in his support for it. I’m sure I’m not alone in mentioning that and this could be the result. So is he expressing conviction or saying what he believes he should say?


18 posted on 07/23/2014 10:59:20 AM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: rktman

He’s evolving, as he has a finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing.

Wanna bet he took a lot of flack for his previous statement(s) regarding this issue?


19 posted on 07/23/2014 11:01:03 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy

I would hope so. Flack I mean. Sometimes people get so ingrained in their circle they miss a more worldly view of things. Gotta get outside the circle once in a while to get a better handle on the world.


20 posted on 07/23/2014 11:03:21 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: RIghtwardHo

The British seemed pretty determined at one point...


21 posted on 07/23/2014 11:40:27 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Study 4th generation asymmetric warfare, don’t take a potshot at the tank with your deer rifle shoot the propaganda artist on the evening news. Before you know it the junta will have a hard time recruiting propaganda artists . Then start working up the food chain.


22 posted on 07/23/2014 3:09:36 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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Nice to see he’s getting up to speed on the issue. He needs to do some SERIOUS PREP work if he’s going to be running for the big prize.


23 posted on 07/23/2014 3:42:10 PM PDT by BobL
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