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Opel dropping Ampera, the European Chevy Volt, because of weak sales
green.autoblog.com ^ | Jul 21st 2014 2:15PM | By Sebastian Blanco

Posted on 07/23/2014 9:44:48 AM PDT by Red Badger

Sales of the Chevy Volt in the US have been fairly stable for the last few months (between a low of 1,478 and a high of 1,777 since March), but in Europe, the Opel Ampera (sister-vehicle of the Volt) has been trending downwards. The sales decline is prompting discussion that the vehicle will be killed off in Europe, according to Automotive News Europe.

The car was a relative hit back in 2012, when it was named the European Car Of The Year and sales topped 5,200 units. Compared to 2012 numbers, which were good, Ampera sales dropped 40 percent to fewer than 3,200 in 2013 despite a massive price cut. They are down another 67 percent so far in 2014 and the car has sold just 332 units through the end of May. That's why, according to ANE, the Ampera will be discontinued once Chevy introduces the 2016 Volt in late 2015 (we've got spy shots here). The current Volt and the the Ampera are identical except for the front fascia, and it doesn't make sense to rebadge the new Volt for Opel if they're not even selling a thousand copies per year.

As far as an official word on the company's plans, Opel's Andrew Marshall told AutoblogGreen that the only thing the company is saying right now is that, "We do not comment on potential future product plans." That's vague, sure, but it's also not a resounding vote of confidence for the European Volt. Of course, GM's manager of Electrification Technology Communications, Kevin Kelly, told AutoblogGreen the same thing about the Volt's future when we asked about it based on the Ampera rumors, so we should probably just admit that no one's saying anything official about anything just yet.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Technical; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: chevy; gm; volt

If they can't sell it in Europe, they can't sell it anywhere..............

For more info:

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140723/AUTO0103/307230062/GM-scraps-European-version-Chevy-Volt

1 posted on 07/23/2014 9:44:49 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; sausageseller; ...

Dead Battery Ping...................


2 posted on 07/23/2014 9:45:46 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

Are we taxpayers still subsidizing the Chevy Volt?

If the market can’t support this vehicle then let it die off.


3 posted on 07/23/2014 9:50:58 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Red Badger

Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!


4 posted on 07/23/2014 9:51:14 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Red Badger

I figured the Ampera would be an even bigger flop than its North American sibling. It has too many small, economical diesels as competition in Europe.


5 posted on 07/23/2014 9:52:23 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Red Badger

Doesn’t it have a generator onboard to charge the battery or some such? BTW, they can’t sell the very expensive Cadillac version, either:

Drastic price cuts place Cadillac ELR where it should have been all along
http://www.torquenews.com/2250/drastic-price-cuts-place-cadillac-elr-where-it-should-have-been-all-along#sthash.KjRucm6k.dpuf

Oh, and they did cancel the Opel just now:

GM scraps European version of Chevy Volt
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140723/AUTO0103/307230062/GM-scraps-European-version-Chevy-Volt


6 posted on 07/23/2014 9:53:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Red Badger

I have great memories of an old Opel we had decades ago. My bil put a racing motor in it and I had so much fun with it. I learned to drive a straight shift on Memorial Parkway. Guys would come in the other lane and I would leave them in the dust. Of course, I was a lot younger back then. I miss it. : )


7 posted on 07/23/2014 9:55:13 AM PDT by MamaB (Ndd)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think the tax credit expired. I may be wrong....................


8 posted on 07/23/2014 9:55:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: MamaB

My Step-dad had an Opel GT, red of course. The One that resembled a small Corvette. It was really fun to drive......................


9 posted on 07/23/2014 9:56:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Charles Martel

Why aren’t they selling more diesels here?...........Americans still remember the GM debacle of the 80’s with the diesels that were made from gasoline blocks.................


10 posted on 07/23/2014 9:59:22 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Charles Martel
Yeah...why get that Chevy when (at least here in the Czech Republic) I can get a Škoda Octavia 2.0 TDI that gets right about 50 mpg? They run about $25,000 brand new. And better yet, made right here in the Czech Republic.
11 posted on 07/23/2014 10:03:08 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Red Badger

The volt would have been a good concept IF they would have went with charging while driving, and utilized regenerative braking, instead of the total loss isolated traction system that they came up with. They basically replaced one gallon of fuel with a ton of lithium ion batteries.

If you want a truly fuel efficient vehicle, fuel cell to electric propulsion is the way to go. 90+% efficient electric motors combined with 50+% efficient fuel cells would squeeze as much energy out of the fuel as you could get, and would be a two fold increase in fuel efficiency. As a benchmark, about 22~25% at best is what you get from an internal combustion engine as far as converting the energy in the fuel to moving the vehicle forward.

Put in other terms, for every gallon of fuel that you burn in your car, 75% of that fuel is wasted as heat in the exhaust, the cooling system, and parasitic losses in the drivetrain as frictional losses.


12 posted on 07/23/2014 10:03:40 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

TDI means turbo diesel, correct?


13 posted on 07/23/2014 10:05:47 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Red Badger

14 posted on 07/23/2014 10:07:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Yardstick

Yes.


15 posted on 07/23/2014 10:09:17 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: UCANSEE2

It was, and still IS a beautiful automobile..................


16 posted on 07/23/2014 10:15:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Yardstick

Turbocharged Direct Injection..................


17 posted on 07/23/2014 10:16:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

The Volt isn’t a bad looking car. That thing is gross.


18 posted on 07/23/2014 10:18:48 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

That Octavia is a VW Jetta variant, correct?


19 posted on 07/23/2014 10:21:10 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

A fine chice there, my FRiend.


20 posted on 07/23/2014 10:23:41 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Doggies Rock.)
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To: Red Badger

Evidently they need more generous government subsidies like they have in the states.


21 posted on 07/23/2014 10:24:49 AM PDT by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: UCANSEE2

The Teenybopper Corvette!


22 posted on 07/23/2014 10:25:58 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: MamaB
Back in the late 60s, Opels were sold in the US by Buick dealers. The 1.1 liter Kadett sedan was quicker than the big ass V-8s Buick was selling in that day.

I recall there were a couple of after market suppliers of hop-up parts for the Kadett. A buddy owned one of these “full race” Kadetts in Iowa City. It would turn 7,000 rpm and make a sound like a hoard of killer bees.

23 posted on 07/23/2014 10:26:12 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Red Badger

I think the EPA’s restrictions on diesels (in part to protect the hybrids’ turf and the interests of the ethanol lobby) are more to blame. Car buyers in their 40s or younger just don’t remember much about the GM diesel mess of the ‘80s. FWIW, I see a lot of younger drivers in VW TDI cars.


24 posted on 07/23/2014 10:29:26 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

It’s actually based on the VW Group’s MQB platform, like the Audi A3 or the VW Golf Mark 7.

Škoda is a good car; quite reliable. The other day, however, I was walking by a Chevy dealership and they had in the showrooom a ‘778 Camaro Z28 with T-Tops. Candy apple red.

Absolutely beautiful, but it belongs to the owner of the dealership. He picked it up for a song in the US, shipped it back over here to Europe, fully restored it, and he’s driving it around. He even had the T-Top panel bags. Very nice.


25 posted on 07/23/2014 10:32:28 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: Charles Martel

That may be a big part of the problem. Americans aren’t good at math and the price of diesel looks much bigger than gasoline on a gallon to gallon basis. They cannot extrapolate mentally the mpg differential and dollars per mile to any great effect..................


26 posted on 07/23/2014 10:33:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger
The Euro-Weenies are increasingly into Diesel. Why invest in this technology, when for less money you can get style, performance, and 65 mpg in a VW GTI, Alfa, Volvo or any other Euro-Car (they all have a diesel version)?

When do we get Diesel-ized? Those FIAT-weenies are a disappointment because they are sitting on a very cool diesel that is a best seller in the EU ... and like totally unavailable here.

27 posted on 07/23/2014 10:39:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Red Badger

We had a local drag racer who ran an Opel GT as a funny car way back when. I think it had a Buick engine. I can’t remember his name but he raced it at Etown in N.J.
I have a cousin who ran his Opel Kadett down the 1/4 mile at a long gone drag strip in Flemington, N.J. I think it actually ran as fast as 27.00 seconds. It may still be running.


28 posted on 07/23/2014 10:44:25 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: Red Badger
Americans aren’t good at math

Is my fault. Teaching the number thing at a local CC. After about a year, have started making progress with the times table and am mulling over introducing Long Division. Fractions were OK, but I went broke buying pizza ..."Four Big Pieces ... Eight Little Pieces ... Same-o same-o?"

Why in no time at all, I will have several tattooed Bieber and Selena Fans ready to look at what used to be 6th Grade Algebra! BTW, when you register for class, you get registered to vote. (¡Sí, es la verdad!)

29 posted on 07/23/2014 10:48:54 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

You want to hear a hoard of killer bees listen to a rotary Mazda go down the track @ 12,000 - 14,000 rpm’s. I am a v/8 guy but the rotary is crazy.


30 posted on 07/23/2014 10:49:56 AM PDT by certrtwngnut
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To: Kenny Bunk

The EPA, controlled by environazis, will not allow the mass importation of diesels. They believe in Globull Warming, and nothing will deter them from stopping it.............


31 posted on 07/23/2014 10:52:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger

I remember about 8 or 9 years ago my father-in-law showed me a Powerpoint presentation that was making its way around the cyber universe about this huge conspiracy by certain “powers” to kill the original Volt which was prototyped by GM. It was classic lefty conspiracy stuff.

Not long after Obama was elected and GM was bailed out, the Volt as we know it today was introduced. I always felt that Lefties in the administration (redundant) had to make things right after learning about the injustice based on the PPT presentation and force this POS on the market.


32 posted on 07/23/2014 10:53:29 AM PDT by GWB00 (Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I bet it blows their minds when you introduce the ‘z-axis’....................


33 posted on 07/23/2014 10:54:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I bet it blows their minds when you introduce the ‘z-axis’....................


34 posted on 07/23/2014 10:54:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: GWB00

http://green.autoblog.com/2014/07/18/2015-chevy-volt-larger-battery-same-range/


35 posted on 07/23/2014 10:57:44 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Red Badger
introduce the ‘z-axis’.

Unless Maya Angelou is recognized as a mathematician, three-dimensional concepts will not make it past the curriculum committee....

Unless it can be combined with "Gay Marriage," and/or be taught by an LGBTG instuctor.

36 posted on 07/23/2014 11:06:04 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: Red Badger

There is an irony that high electric rates in many European countries as a result of green energy could make a rechargeable vehicle too expensive to operate.


37 posted on 07/23/2014 11:09:40 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ

If you like your electricity, you can keep your electricity................


38 posted on 07/23/2014 11:12:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I bet imaginary numbers is a foreign concept...................


39 posted on 07/23/2014 11:13:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: The Great RJ

Yeah....it makes more sense to have a diesel with the prices of electricity.

Another example; I can walk from Prague Castle to the National Museum in about 45 minutes - that’s what’s considered ‘cross-town’ with a lot of folks here. In fact, the urban core of Prague is quite small. It’s only when you get out into the ‘burbs and surrounding areas that it’s a “big city”, or rather a “big city” as Czechs would define it. To me....not so much, but then I’m originally from Los Angeles.


40 posted on 07/23/2014 11:28:33 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: certrtwngnut

Wife owned a ‘73 RX2. The 4 bbl carb was as big as a basketball.
It got 10 miles per gallon and ran like a small block Chevy.


41 posted on 07/23/2014 11:53:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Red Badger
introduce the ‘z-axis’.

Unless Maya Angelou is recognized as a mathematician, three-dimensional concepts will not make it past the curriculum committee....

Unless it can be combined with "Gay Marriage," and/or be taught by an LGBT instuctor.

42 posted on 07/23/2014 12:01:16 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The GOP is dying. What do we do now?)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
I wasn't a big fan of the T-top, it always seemed to mess up the lines of any car (the same applies to the old 911 Targa - good idea, not so great execution). It's always nice to see American iron on that side of the Atlantic, though. There are quite a few fans of that hardware to be found in Europe.

This guy, for example, does some amazing metal fabrication and general hot-rodding. He frequently has pics from the car club gatherings in Sweden.

43 posted on 07/23/2014 1:43:08 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: UCANSEE2
"Mmmm, Opel GT..."


44 posted on 07/23/2014 3:27:11 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah... I had a blue one.


45 posted on 07/23/2014 10:11:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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