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FAA Extends Travel Ban to Israel for Another 24 Hours
ABC News ^ | 7/23/2014 | Meghan Keneally

Posted on 07/23/2014 10:17:24 AM PDT by jalisco555

The FAA announced today that they have not lifted their ban against travel to or from Tel Aviv's airport and will prohibit travel to the country for an additional 24 hours.

"The agency is working closely with the Government of Israel to review the significant new information they have provided and determine whether potential risks to U.S. civil aviation are mitigated so the agency can resolve concerns as quickly as possible," the FAA said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: faa; hamas; israel
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Hmmmmmm.
1 posted on 07/23/2014 10:17:24 AM PDT by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555

Except for John Effin Kerry.


2 posted on 07/23/2014 10:18:17 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: jalisco555

Worried about weapons we gave to Libyans or “moderate” muslims in Syria?


3 posted on 07/23/2014 10:18:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Yeah notice that POS got their safely


4 posted on 07/23/2014 10:18:44 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

>> Except for John Effin Kerry.

I vote to keep Kerry flying! Fly, John! Fly! Every day! To trouble spots all over the world!

(Good things — from our point of view — sometimes happen to airplanes, you know...)


5 posted on 07/23/2014 10:21:11 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: jalisco555

Just another business to kill in the U.S. Travel agents are going crazy, not knowing what tomorrow will bring.


6 posted on 07/23/2014 10:22:55 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: jalisco555

Keep in mind ... and ccording to the news reports ... four major USA airlines suspended their flights - indefinitely - BEFORE the FAA even acted.

It sounds like, to me, an “airline thing” and safety of their passengers, not to say anything about potential lawsuits.

And in fact, today, I read where one of the major airlines says that they evaluate their flights on their own, apart from the FAA, and they have decided on their on their own to not fly there.


7 posted on 07/23/2014 10:25:21 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: George from New England

I thought the FAA didn’t “ban” flights; it only issued safety warnings.

It was the government (executive, congress) which did that (such as banning flights to Cuba).

When did the FAA start “banning” air traffic to foreign countries?


8 posted on 07/23/2014 10:26:11 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: George from New England
Just another business to kill in the U.S. Travel agents are going crazy, not knowing what tomorrow will bring.

Not to mention the tourism industry in Israel. I was there just last month. The hotels and restaurants were packed. Tourists were everywhere. Now, however?

9 posted on 07/23/2014 10:26:24 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: George from New England

The airlines themselves were canceling the flights before the FAA even did a single thing. The airlines were “on top of it” before the FAA even figured it out!


10 posted on 07/23/2014 10:26:51 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: jalisco555

No way! You mean there wasn’t something particularly and terribly dangerous about the last 24 hours?! Wow! Buncha anti-semites


11 posted on 07/23/2014 10:26:51 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: jalisco555

Rockets from Hamas — falling all over Israel - doesn’t really help tourism. That’s not part of the package that the tourists pay for ... LOL ...


12 posted on 07/23/2014 10:28:22 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: thorvaldr

You’ll have to be calling the major airlines “anti-Semites” then, because they were canceling before the FAA did a thing.


13 posted on 07/23/2014 10:30:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: thorvaldr
No way! You mean there wasn’t something particularly and terribly dangerous about the last 24 hours?! Wow! Buncha anti-semites

I never thought I'd say the words "I admire Michael Bloomberg" but his decision to fly El Al into Israel and publicize it was pretty cool.

14 posted on 07/23/2014 10:30:19 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: cripplecreek

Or weapons that Russia gave the rebels!

We’re back to the Cold War days, where Reagan helped the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, who then formed a group of terrorists to bomb us, on our own land, on 9/11/2001,


15 posted on 07/23/2014 10:32:20 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Rockets from Hamas — falling all over Israel - doesn’t really help tourism. That’s not part of the package that the tourists pay for ... LOL ...

From what I understand tourists already in Israel haven't seen too much disruption. An occasional trip to the shelter but that's it. But I take your point. All the more reason for Israel to tell Kerry to pound sand and finish off Hamas once and for all.

16 posted on 07/23/2014 10:35:09 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("My 80% friend is not my 20% enemy" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Star Traveler

Lots of weapons we hand out are Russian made or at least Russian sourced. We often give aid in return for the aid receiver to pass weapons on to a 3rd party.


17 posted on 07/23/2014 10:35:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Star Traveler
More crap. Working for Hamas?

Only Delta has said they are indefinite now. US Airways actually said that when the FAA lifts their NOTAM they will resume. British Airways never stopped, and neither did El Al, because let me see, YOU think they are willing to risk it. Sheesh.
18 posted on 07/23/2014 10:37:04 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: jalisco555

This is but another example of the fact that Obama hates & despises Netanyahu.

FAA wants to please the boss. Bottom line.


19 posted on 07/23/2014 10:37:48 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: jalisco555

Israel will severely degrade the capability of Hamas, but the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is on record as saying that the elimination of Hamas is not their goal. Also the IDF is quoted as saying that they would rather have Hamas there controlling the other smaller Islamic groups.

This is coming from Israel’s government and the IDF.


20 posted on 07/23/2014 10:38:04 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Your information is incorrect. No matter how many times you quote some source, the source is suspect when they don’t even know how many flag carriers from the US service Tel Aviv.


21 posted on 07/23/2014 10:38:50 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

It’s fact and has been quoted here before. You may not like it that these major airlines have done this even before the FAA even announced any such thing, bit that’s the way it is.


22 posted on 07/23/2014 10:39:45 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tzfat

You can say it’s incorrect but the actual news reports were ALREADY OUT about planes turning back and around and airlines canceling flights even before the FAA mentioned or uttered a single word!


23 posted on 07/23/2014 10:41:20 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: CondorFlight

The FAA does not ban flights subject to multilateral agreements. They do not have the authority. What the weasels did for their master Hussein Obama was restrict PILOTS with US certificates from flying in Israeli airspace. An effect ban. It truly is unprecidented.


24 posted on 07/23/2014 10:41:24 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler

Again, your are flat out wrong. The FAA NOTAM was issued at 12:15, BEFORE all but one airline had cancelled.


25 posted on 07/23/2014 10:42:51 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: jalisco555

You are correct. The OP has gone off the rails in fear mongering.


26 posted on 07/23/2014 10:44:12 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

I already gave you the report and posted it yesterday ... four major airlines suspended - indefinitely - their flights and that was before the FAA.


27 posted on 07/23/2014 10:44:48 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Your quotes are crap. Keep it up, Hamas loves the lies. The airline I work for is ready to resume as soon as our PILOTS won’t be in violation of the ridiculous FAA ban. I know, because I have friends assigned to those very flights.


28 posted on 07/23/2014 10:47:00 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Quoting from an article ...

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On Tuesday, four major U.S. airline carriers announced their decision to cancel flights heading to Israel indefinitely, one specifically citing the danger of Gaza rocket attacks near Israel’s Ben Gurion airport.

Shortly afterwards, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said it told all U.S. airlines that flights to the airport are prohibited for 24 hours, according to The Associated Press.

— — —

Israel Transportation Minister: Cancellation of Flights to Israel Gives a ‘Prize to Terror’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3183687/posts?page=35

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/22/israel-transportation-minister-cancellation-of-u-s-flights-to-israel-is-a-prize-to-terror/


29 posted on 07/23/2014 10:48:05 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tzfat

I see you don’t like DOCUMENTATION ... but prefer the little world you have constructed inside your head ... LOL ...


30 posted on 07/23/2014 10:49:38 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
There were numerous reports this morning directly contradicting your AUTHORITATIVE quotes. The first airline was Delta. THEN the FAA issued their NOTAM. The reset followed the NOTAM.

BTW, can you even name the flag carriers from the US that service Tel Aviv? No? I thought so.
31 posted on 07/23/2014 10:51:09 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler
I see you don’t like DOCUMENTATION

Bless your heart. You think quoting from an article on the Internet is documentation

Did you think the 1739 times ABCCBSNBC quoted Obama's "If you like your plan you can keep it" were a form of documentation too?

Give your fear mongering a rest.
32 posted on 07/23/2014 11:07:03 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Between listening to some electronic personality, who could be in their mama’s basement -versus- getting documented news reports, I’ll listen to what is a documented news report.

And the fact is that anyone here could be holing up in their mama’s basement — which is why we all go on the basis of what we can document.

How’s your mama doing upstairs? ... LOL ...


33 posted on 07/23/2014 11:07:18 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tzfat

It’s definitely more documentation than simply a statement from your little fingers ... :-) ...


34 posted on 07/23/2014 11:08:44 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Actually, it isn't. Are you an airline employee at one of the airlines (3, not 4) that are flag carriers from the US to LLBG?

But, just so that you know, a simple google search brings this up:

US Airways plans to resume Tel Aviv flight on Thursday (if FAA says OK)

Why would they do that, if they were simply following on to what the FAA ordered.

But, by all means keep up the anti-Israel crap. It is your right.
35 posted on 07/23/2014 11:13:45 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

I’m not taking about when they resume flights ... I’m talking about them stopping before the FAA said anything. That’s what the quote says and is about.


36 posted on 07/23/2014 11:18:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
No, your persistent point has been (excuse the paraphrase), "It isn't just the FAA, the airlines have determined it is not safe to go to Israel. Rockets are falling everyone where. WAAAAAA!"

The fact is, discontinuing service to Tel Aviv is a political move, which rewards the terrorists (gee, thanks Star Traveler, you are doing a great job helping out). El Al is one of the safest, most conservative airlines in the world. They didn't flinch. British Airways, likewise, and in their case ignored a warning from the EU.

As to the sequence of events, it was not the Delta captain that diverted from his JFK to TLV route, it was Delta operations that diverted the flight (I am an Airbus captain, and our jets are high tech, but we don't get news in flight, even NOTAMs - we rely on our operations to give us in-flight information).

After Delta diverted, it is likely their local FAA was notified by Delta operations. The FAA issued their NOTAM at 12:15 EDT for 24 hours. United cancelled their two flights from EWR after that. US Airways cancelled only their Wednesday night flight from PHL. By late afternoon, Delta has made their plans "indefinite" and US Airways issued a press release that said they were canceling through Saturday. This morning US Airways changed their plans and said that they would in fact fly Thursday if the FAA NOTAM was lifted.

"Them's the facts" - but feel free to keep on quoting from various blogs etc. - and please wear a "I'm Star Traveler and I quote from the Internet" sign the next time you fly. I'll introduce myself as a 34-year (56 year-old) Airbus captain, and show you I am not in my parent's basement.
37 posted on 07/23/2014 11:31:50 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

It’s not political but it’s a business that the airlines are running and they suspend flights on a legitimate business decision, which also has to do with the safety of their passengers.

FAA extends ban on US flights to Israel by 24 hours
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184084/posts

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Lufthansa-Delta-extend-flight-bans-to-Israel-368616

Lufthansa, Delta, US Airways extend flight bans to Israel along with US Federal Aviation Administration along with most European airlines.

The FAA on Tuesday said it told US carriers they were prohibited from flying to or from Ben-Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv for up to 24 hours, citing “the potentially hazardous situation created by the armed conflict in Israel and Gaza.” The FAA later extended the ban by another 24 hours on Wednesday evening.

The decision to halt flights to Israel follows the downing last week of a Malaysia Airlines jet over Ukraine with nearly 300 aboard.

Germany’s Lufthansa on Wednesday suspended flights to and from Tel Aviv for an additional 24 hours. The decision also applies to Germanwings, Austrian Airlines, Swiss and Brussels Airlines.

“At the present time no adequate authoritative new information is available that would justify a resumption of flights. In close coordination with the responsible authorities Lufthansa is continually evaluating the safety situation for its total flight network,” the company said.

— — —

Germany’s airline says ... “At the present time no adequate authoritative new information is available that would justify a resumption of flights. In close coordination with the responsible authorities Lufthansa is continually evaluating the safety situation for its total flight network,” the company said.


38 posted on 07/23/2014 11:34:35 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Your quotes have proven false statements in them. You keep quoting: "On Tuesday, four major U.S. airline carriers announced their decision to cancel flights heading to Israel indefinitely" and yet there are 3 major US airlines that service Tel Aviv. And no, they did NOT say that they would do it indefinitely. Delta said that.
39 posted on 07/23/2014 11:39:44 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

If there’s a problem with this quote, get a retraction from the news agency, or write to the editor ... but from everything I’ve seen not only are individual US airlines suspending flights, but Germany is and other airlines in Europe are. In fact, I just saw this quote ...

— — —

FAA extends ban on US flights to Israel by 24 hours
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3184084/posts?page=3

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Lufthansa-Delta-extend-flight-bans-to-Israel-368616

Germany’s Lufthansa on Wednesday suspended flights to and from Tel Aviv for an additional 24 hours. The decision also applies to Germanwings, Austrian Airlines, Swiss and Brussels Airlines.

“At the present time no adequate authoritative new information is available that would justify a resumption of flights. In close coordination with the responsible authorities Lufthansa is continually evaluating the safety situation for its total flight network,” the company said.


40 posted on 07/23/2014 11:44:56 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
No, it is not my job to get a retraction from inaccurate quotes. It seems however, that you are bent on promoting the terrorist's propaganda.

Yes, airlines all over the world are suspending service to Tel Aviv. Does that make it not political? Please... Jews are among the most hated people of the world. Yes, Germany has suspended flights. >I can't find a single place where you quoted that Britain has not.

I am looking, but have not found a single quote from Star Traveler that Israel has provided detailed information about the safety of Ben Gurion to the FAA - and the FAA has said that they are seriously analyzing that in their review. I have not seen a single quote from you about Israel opening up Elat airport to international flights.

Israel to open Eilat airport in effort to resume flights

I have not seen a single post from you about airlines ready to resume flights ASAP.

US Airways plans to resume Tel Aviv flight on Thursday (if FAA says OK)

You are quite a busy person these days with all your posting, and it seems that all you want to quote is from places that want to harm Israel. I wonder why that is?
41 posted on 07/23/2014 11:57:29 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

The fact that four major airlines suspended their flights - indefinitely - per the quote below ... is not terrorist propaganda. It’s what one calls reported facts.

It would seem that you don’t like the “reality” of what “happens” and thus want to label it “terrorist propaganda”.

And, once again, here’s the quote from yesterday ...

Israel Transportation Minister: Cancellation of Flights to Israel Gives a ‘Prize to Terror’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3183687/posts?page=35

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/22/israel-transportation-minister-cancellation-of-u-s-flights-to-israel-is-a-prize-to-terror/

On Tuesday, four major U.S. airline carriers announced their decision to cancel flights heading to Israel indefinitely, one specifically citing the danger of Gaza rocket attacks near Israel’s Ben Gurion airport.

Shortly afterwards, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) said it told all U.S. airlines that flights to the airport are prohibited for 24 hours, according to The Associated Press.

— — — — —

And here’s another quote from today, with additional information about foreign airlines suspending flights ...

FAA extends ban on US flights to Israel by 24 hours
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184084/posts

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Lufthansa-Delta-extend-flight-bans-to-Israel-368616

Lufthansa, Delta, US Airways extend flight bans to Israel along with US Federal Aviation Administration along with most European airlines.

The FAA on Tuesday said it told US carriers they were prohibited from flying to or from Ben-Gurion Airport in Tel Aviv for up to 24 hours, citing “the potentially hazardous situation created by the armed conflict in Israel and Gaza.” The FAA later extended the ban by another 24 hours on Wednesday evening.

The decision to halt flights to Israel follows the downing last week of a Malaysia Airlines jet over Ukraine with nearly 300 aboard.

Germany’s Lufthansa on Wednesday suspended flights to and from Tel Aviv for an additional 24 hours. The decision also applies to Germanwings, Austrian Airlines, Swiss and Brussels Airlines.

“At the present time no adequate authoritative new information is available that would justify a resumption of flights. In close coordination with the responsible authorities Lufthansa is continually evaluating the safety situation for its total flight network,” the company said.

— — — — —

Now I don’t care whether you choose to believe it or not — but there are the news reports and you can now go and stick your head in the sand ... LOL ...


42 posted on 07/23/2014 12:04:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Read the article below. US Airways did NOT suspend indefinitely. Your quote is in error - and the link is a direct quote from US Airways, not some newsie assuming.

US Airways plans to resume Tel Aviv flight on Thursday (if FAA says OK)

What's up? Got family that are residents of Gaza?
43 posted on 07/23/2014 12:10:00 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

You seem to think that posting news articles and establishing the facts is related to supporting Islamic Terrorists ... :-) ...


44 posted on 07/23/2014 12:18:01 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
As I have pointed out. Your posts are a reporter's opinion, and often based upon misunderstandings of the aviation industry. You keep quoting about 4 major US airlines suspending service to Tel Aviv. There are not 4 major US airlines flying to Tel Aviv. Your quote is from an uninformed source.

You want quotes of fact, how about quoting Israeli officials?

Israel criticises airlines as US flight ban extended

Giora Romm, director-general of the Israeli civil aviation authority, told the Financial Times he was “very disappointed” with the US aviation regulator’s original decision on Tuesday. Speaking before the FAA’s extension, he said it was safe to fly in and out of Ben Gurion, highlighting how Israel had military defences – its Iron Dome system – to protect the country from rocket attacks.

Mr Romm said about 25 airlines had stopped flying to Ben Gurion, adding this would have a “very bad” impact on the Israeli economy. “Israel is connected to the world via aviation, and when there is a curfew on aviation the kind of which we have experienced in the last 24 hours it has a very negative impact on the economy,” he said.

This is the first time Israel has suffered significant reductions in flights to Tel Aviv since the 1991 Gulf war.

45 posted on 07/23/2014 12:57:55 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler
British Airways Defies Advisory, Keeps Tel Aviv Service

“Our flights are operating normally. Safety is our top priority. We would not operate flights unless it was safe to do so. We are monitoring the situation closely,” said British Airways.


46 posted on 07/23/2014 12:59:03 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

I’ve posted another article you referenced already and I continue to post a series of articles on the subject. And, of course, it’s only natural for Israeli spokesmen to advocate for their own airport ... it’s “their business” ...

But then again, it’s the “business” if all those other airlines to consider their own safety and for their passengers.

I’ll look that post up for that link and see if I can get in past their firewall, but in the past, I haven’t been able to get past their front page. But, I’ll look around for another source.


47 posted on 07/23/2014 1:07:49 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
of course, it’s only natural for Israeli spokesmen to advocate for their own airport ... it’s “their business” ...

Well then it is just as important to understand that the airlines have a self interest as well - and their's is to continue service - understanding that the FAA ban was simply politics, and not really safety related.

US Airways plans to resume Tel Aviv flight on Thursday (if FAA says OK)

British Airways Defies Advisory, Keeps Tel Aviv Service

“Our flights are operating normally. Safety is our top priority. We would not operate flights unless it was safe to do so. We are monitoring the situation closely,” said British Airways.
48 posted on 07/23/2014 1:16:51 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Air Canada or Lufthansa is not canceling their flights because of the FAA ... :-) ...

Air Canada says they’re not flying because of safety issues and Lufthansa says that they’ve seen nothing to justify starting up their flights yet.

That’s just the way it is ...


49 posted on 07/23/2014 1:20:16 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
US Airways plans to resume Tel Aviv flight on Thursday (if FAA says OK)

British Airways Defies Advisory, Keeps Tel Aviv Service

“Our flights are operating normally. Safety is our top priority. We would not operate flights unless it was safe to do so. We are monitoring the situation closely,” said British Airways.


50 posted on 07/23/2014 1:27:41 PM PDT by Tzfat
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