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CNN Poll: Twice As Many Americans Were Hurt By Obamacare Than Helped
Townhall.com ^ | July 23, 2014 | Guy Benson

Posted on 07/23/2014 2:46:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Not an unusual data point at all, based on the polling trend -- but a timely reality check for the delusional "people love Obamacare!" propagandists. CNN's latest national survey includes a number of noteworthy nuggets, including the "Affordable" Care Act fallout verdict referenced in the headline (via Ed Morrissey):


(1) President Obama's job approval rating is mired at (42/55), languishing roughly where it's been for months. He is underwater with men (39/58), women (45/52), young people (45/49), and independents (34/62). Seventy-seven percent of Democrats and nearly two-thirds of non-white voters continue to give Obama high marks, but virtually everyone else's views have soured.


(2) The president is sucking wind on personal characteristics, as well:

- Is a strong and decisive leader: (48 yes / 52 no), which is amazingly generous, in my book.

- Generally agrees with you on issues you care about (43/56)

- Can manage the government effectively (42/57)

- Cares about people like you (51/48), down from his 2008 high water mark of (73/27)

- Shares your values (46/53)

- Is sincere in what he says (49/49). Ahem.


(3)
Obamacare's overall approval rating remains upside-down by nearly 20 points (40/59), virtually unchanged from its
March "rebound." Democrats' self-congratulatory convulsions over "eight million new enrollees" failed to move the needle. (Reasons for scare quotes here, here, here, and -- new today! -- here). Asked whether the law has helped or hurt their families, respondents shared the bad news:

ACAworseoff


As we've seen in the other polling linked above, a plurality of Americans say they haven't been impacted too much by the new law -- yet, at least. As I've said in the past, I generally fall into this category, as the "only" effect I've felt is a monthly premium increase of nearly $100. But of those consumer who have been affected, they break two-to-one into the "worse off" camp. Obamacare is helping some people; mostly Americans with preexisting conditions and those who are eligible for very generous subsidies. But it's hurting far more people. And a substantial majority oppose the law. Obamacare was pitched as a win/win for everyone, with no trade-offs and no losers. That has not been the case. Indeed, Politico is showcasing one class of Obamacare losers, who've encountered "access shock" -- a phenomenon we've been tracking for quite some time:

Anger over limited choice of doctors and hospitals in Obamacare plans is prompting some states to require broader networks — and boiling up as yet another election year headache for the health law...It’s not just a political problem. It’s a policy conundrum. Narrow networks help contain health care costs. If state or federal regulators — or politicians — force insurers to expand the range of providers, premiums could spike. And that could create a whole new wave of political and affordability problems that can shape perceptions of Obamacare.


The Tampa Bay Times profiles one woman whose frustrating experience underscores this problem

Charlene Lake thought she got a decent deal through the Affordable Care Act marketplace: a Humana HMO that included a family doctor a few miles from her home. Five months later, Lake wonders if she can even use the insurance she bought. Her plan's dominant health care provider, JSA Medical Group, recently announced that it would take no new patients covered by Humana's exchange HMOs at least until fall. That leaves Lake no choice but to use the community health centers left in her plan's network, rather than the traditional physician's practice on which she planned. She has company...aside from first-year fumbles, the case also shows the downside of limiting consumer choice of physicians through what is known as narrow networks. Or, in Lake's case, a network so narrow it barely exists. "You can't make people sign up for a health care plan and then not have a doctor," said Lake, a St. Petersburg antiques dealer who is in her 50s. Narrow networks of hospitals and physicians help insurers maintain profitability while holding down premiums and complying with ACA rules.

Lake's quandary is redolent of the doctor-finding headache an Obamacare supporter and 'beneficiary' from New Jersey described in April. The good news is that there's at least one group of Obamacare enrollees who have voiced zero complaints whatsoever about their benefits: The fake ones.

GAO Sting Finds It Easy To Fake It, Get Obamacare Premiums


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 2014elections; aca; democratcare; polls

1 posted on 07/23/2014 2:46:24 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Low end datapoint: My kids in their 20’s, healthy, report that low-end insurance (the kind you get in between jobs) has doubled.


2 posted on 07/23/2014 2:47:59 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Kaslin

Twice As Many Americans Were Hurt By Obamacare Than Helped
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Only that many eh ???

Barry must be slipping...


3 posted on 07/23/2014 2:54:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin

Higher costs, higher deductibles, lower coverage, lowered standards of healthcare, useage as a regulatory tool on what you can eat or drink or your personal habits, people out of work because of it, gross invasion of privacy sharing information with other agencies, implantation of tracking and data stoarge in devices embedded in skin, etc...

Yep definitely a liberal / progressive / DemonRat thing....


4 posted on 07/23/2014 2:55:33 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Kaslin

Probably more like 20x.


5 posted on 07/23/2014 2:56:59 PM PDT by uncitizen (Buckle up! We're on the Facism Fast Track!)
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To: Kaslin

Whaaaaaat a shame.

Pesky elections and their consequences.


6 posted on 07/23/2014 3:05:13 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin

This is why we need single-payer. /sarc


7 posted on 07/23/2014 3:23:19 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: Kaslin

ANYONE who kids themselves that Ocare is about health is delusional. It is about CONTROL and uses the health industry as its vehicle.


8 posted on 07/23/2014 3:34:08 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Kaslin
Twice As Many Americans Were Hurt By Obamacare Than Helped

Twice As Many Americans Were Hurt By Obamacare As Helped

Pubblic school is destroying the language.

9 posted on 07/23/2014 3:35:53 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
My kids in their 20s. It is not possessive.
10 posted on 07/23/2014 3:37:02 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

You’re right, although it “looks” good with the apostrophe. If I were spelling it out, I would have no doubt said “twenties.”


11 posted on 07/23/2014 3:40:56 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Kaslin

The party of Detroit ruining your health care. Do tell.


12 posted on 07/23/2014 4:19:39 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Kaslin

Interesting that CNN ran this poll


13 posted on 07/23/2014 9:41:52 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: Kaslin

Everyone has been harmed by obummercare.

Some will just need more time to figure it out.
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14 posted on 07/23/2014 9:46:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
The whole concept of healthy kids in their 20s even seeking health insurance is idiocy. How in the heck do we think we got here over the centuries? By being helpless infants? Free people determine and pay for their own medical care the same way they pay for their homes and cars and food, including insurance markets for risk-type medical needs. And charitable Christian people fund hospitals, some of the finest in the world.

Medicine, aided by government-directed and mandated minimum requirements, an entire marketing demographic exists around marketed and sold medical services advertised as "urgent." Medicine has always done this -- there is nothing new under the sun. Adding government to power and enforce that drive is guaranteed to fail. That is its one certain outcome.

And most Americans, who hold the MSM in extreme contempt on the whole, know it.

15 posted on 07/24/2014 12:10:35 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny
The whole concept of healthy kids in their 20s even seeking health insurance is idiocy.

You have to distinguish between real insurance and routine health care. I think kids should have catastrophic insurance, especially the way today's health system is set up. We're talking about getting hit by a car, mugged, or contracting an expensive and unlikely disease. If they don't, any savings they have, and often any savings their parents might have, can be wiped out before they go on the medical dole.

On the other hand, I agree that the maintenance component is an un-necessary ripoff for them, where they are forced to pay many times what it is worth to subsidize others.

16 posted on 07/24/2014 5:47:21 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I think kids should have catastrophic insurance ... If they don't, any savings they have, and often any savings their parents might have, can be wiped out before they go on the medical dole.

Maybe they should, but that should be their choice, and if they end up in debt or needing charity, that's their and MY (as a charitable Christian) challengs. Government, you, me, gramdma, dad, doctor, teacher, nanny -- NONE of the above have any business dictating to a young person how they should or shouldn't spend their money.

For me, even with my blood pressure medication AND doctors appointments and lab tests (I pay CASH for all and get a substantial discount because of it), I spend about as much IN A YEAR total, as I would for one lousy month of health insurance. Without government, that's a rip-off -- WITH government, it is beyond a rip-off, it is lunacy.

17 posted on 07/24/2014 9:27:19 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny
Maybe they should, but that should be their choice, and if they end up in debt or needing charity, that's their and MY (as a charitable Christian) challenge

I agree--I think prudence is one thing, the Obamacare/RomneyCare mandate quite another.

18 posted on 07/24/2014 11:19:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: arthurus

... is this all you do is correct people’s grammar?


19 posted on 07/25/2014 8:59:24 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: arthurus

Public. Not “Pubblic”.

Wow.


20 posted on 07/25/2014 9:00:21 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: Kaslin

Oh, my, is CNN telling the truth?


21 posted on 07/25/2014 9:00:22 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I never thought I would agree with a CNN poll...however in the case of Obama Care....


22 posted on 07/25/2014 9:03:45 AM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...Time to honor it....be a Patriot.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Well, it was designed to be a massive vehicle for wealth redistribution anyway.

Obozo in action.


23 posted on 07/25/2014 9:08:57 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: ChiefJayStrongbow
What's the pprobblemm?


24 posted on 07/25/2014 9:11:06 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Salvation

Just giving cover for RATS to turn on zero in their campaigns.

Which is why I hope Halbig can be fast-tracked to SCOTUS on Nov. 7, Friday after election.


25 posted on 07/25/2014 9:12:24 AM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: Kaslin

I fully believe that was the point...

We’ve enough examples and evidence to show that this current crop of fascists is more about seeking vengeance on their opponents than they are about “helping” people.


26 posted on 07/25/2014 9:12:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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