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Germany puts 700,000 WWI docs online
The Local ^ | 07/23/2014 | Staff Writers

Posted on 07/23/2014 3:36:07 PM PDT by fso301

More than 700,000 records relating to WWI, as well as photos, films and audio recordings were made accessible on a new portal on the Federal Archive's website.

The collection includes private material as well as files of military and civilian authorities, records left by politicians and military officers, documentaries and propaganda films. Access to the complete archive is free.

The archive will also help people compiling family histories, say curators, since it has extensive information about locations where individual soldiers served. It also contains letters written to and by combatants in the war, which began on July 28, 1914, and ended on November 11, 1918.

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; history; thegreatwar; worldwarone; ww1; wwi
This should be of interest to history buffs.

Also worth noting are related articles http://www.thelocal.de/20140718/rare-world-war-i-colour-photos-gathered-for-centenary

http://www.thelocal.de/20140627/photos-capture-a-german-soliders-life-behind-wwi-lines

http://www.thelocal.de/20140616/german-kaiser-wilhelm-iis-love-of-the-sea-resurfaces

1 posted on 07/23/2014 3:36:07 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; henkster; CougarGA7; colorado tanker; Tax-chick; GeronL

FYI


2 posted on 07/23/2014 3:37:34 PM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

Whoa! Treasure trove! Thanks for posting and a BTT.


3 posted on 07/23/2014 3:40:28 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Since my German ain’t so good, I’ll assume this is just for German soldiers.


4 posted on 07/23/2014 3:43:14 PM PDT by I_Publius
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To: I_Publius

I hit “Translate” (my browser is Chrome) and it seems to work very well. That technology looks like it’s come a long way.


5 posted on 07/23/2014 3:48:00 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: fso301

Don’t give Lois Lerner access to it!


6 posted on 07/23/2014 3:49:49 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping!


7 posted on 07/23/2014 3:50:29 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: libertylover

Don’t give Lois Lerner access to it!


Lois Lerner would better fit in with The Third Reich.


8 posted on 07/23/2014 4:01:23 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: fso301

Thank you for posting this.


9 posted on 07/23/2014 4:16:52 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: fso301; Homer_J_Simpson

Nice find! Hey Homer, how about a Real Time Plus 100 years thread?


10 posted on 07/23/2014 4:32:56 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: fso301
Yes this history is of interest to me. I wonder if there's anything to support the book (below) and if so why give Germany a pass vis-a-vis the Armenian genocide issue.?

Ottoman Turkey ally Kaiser Wilhelm II had German military stationed in Ottoman Turkey.

"'German Responsibility in the Armenian Genocide: A Review of the Historical Evidence of German Complicity" by Vahakn N. Dadrian.

[Excerpt] "Dadrian does not accuse Germany of instigating the Armenian genocide; he argues instead that Germany contributed to the genocide through policies that condoned it and that the German government sanctioned German and Turkish officials who participated in the genocide's implementation."

11 posted on 07/23/2014 4:36:14 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: fso301

Thanks for posting!


12 posted on 07/23/2014 4:41:08 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: henkster; fso301
Hey Homer, how about a Real Time Plus 100 years thread?

I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that.

13 posted on 07/23/2014 4:52:04 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: DCBryan1; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks DCBryan1!

14 posted on 07/23/2014 4:56:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; henkster
I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that.

LOL!

15 posted on 07/23/2014 5:18:54 PM PDT by fso301
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Yes this history is of interest to me. I wonder if there's anything to support the book (below) and if so why give Germany a pass vis-a-vis the Armenian genocide issue.?

This is a good question that I cannot answer. I have my suspicions but that's all they are.

16 posted on 07/23/2014 5:20:47 PM PDT by fso301
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I’ve never heard of German involvement with Armenia; my understanding is that their advisers were primarily concerned with the Dardanelles.

If scholars end up speculating and are disproven on any point, then a whole denial movement will be born from it.


17 posted on 07/23/2014 7:22:34 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2; fso301
Frequently Asked Questions about the Armenian Genocide

What was the response of the international community to the Armenian Genocide? [following W.W.I]

The international community condemned the Armenian Genocide. In May 1915, Great Britain, France, and Russia advised the Young Turk leaders that they would be held personally responsible for this crime against humanity. There was a strong public outcry in the United States against the mistreatment of the Armenians. At the end of the war, the Allied victors demanded that the Ottoman government prosecute the Young Turks accused of wartime crimes. Relief efforts were also mounted to save "the starving Armenians." The American, British, and German governments sponsored the preparation of reports on the atrocities and numerous accounts were published. On the other hand, despite the moral outrage of the international community, no strong actions were taken against the Ottoman Empire either to sanction its brutal policies or to salvage the Armenian people from the grip of extermination. Moreover, no steps were taken to require the postwar Turkish governments to make restitution to the Armenian people for their immense material and human losses.

The American, British, and German governments sponsored the preparation of reports on the atrocities and numerous accounts were published. On the other hand, despite the moral outrage of the international community, no strong actions were taken against the Ottoman Empire.

Is there a clue in there someplace?

18 posted on 07/23/2014 8:16:42 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Nothing to indicate German participation or direction.


19 posted on 07/24/2014 3:31:53 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; henkster; fso301
henkster: "Hey Homer, how about a Real Time Plus 100 years thread?"

Homer: "I'm just going to pretend I didn't read that."

I predict, in the future they will not be taught as "World War One" and "World War Two", but as just one war -- perhaps "The Great War" -- or maybe "the 75-Years War", including the "Cold War", beginning in 1914, ending 75 years later, in 1989 with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

So Homer, there's no way to finish your work in this lifetime.
You might need some staff... ;-)

20 posted on 07/24/2014 5:08:46 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: fso301

Thank you!


21 posted on 07/24/2014 9:18:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

The book sounds like an effort to shift responsibility away from the Turkish regime that indisputably masterminded and carried out the genocide. The number of German military in Turkey during wwi was pretty small (they had a lot on their plate during that little two and a half front war they were fighting in Europe at the time) and mostly their duties pertained to the efforts to blockade seagoing traffic to and from the Russian Empire. Germany and Austria joined the UK, France, and Russia, and the United States, in the condemnation of the genocide, and did so at the time it was going on. Sounds like the author either has an axe to grind, or wants his fifteen minutes.

https://www.umdearborn.edu/dept/armenian/facts/genocide.html

http://www.genocide1915.org/ogonvittnen_diplomater.html

interesting sidebar:

http://www.worldwar1.com/sfgb.htm


22 posted on 07/24/2014 2:53:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BroJoeK; Homer_J_Simpson; henkster
I predict, in the future they will not be taught as "World War One" and "World War Two", but as just one war -- perhaps "The Great War" -- or maybe "the 75-Years War", including the "Cold War", beginning in 1914, ending 75 years later, in 1989 with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

That is an interesting point you make.

So Homer, there's no way to finish your work in this lifetime. You might need some staff... ;-)

LOL!

23 posted on 07/24/2014 3:05:25 PM PDT by fso301
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To: SunkenCiv
Thank you for the links. I am of course very familiar with the charges.

This is no attempt to mitigate the horror. Even the modern constitutional democratic Republic of Turkey acknowledges that atrocities were committed -- not all by the Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire BTW.

IMO the issue seems to be the word genocide. Here's something on that.

Recognition of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is a secondary issue – interview with Harut Sassounian. [An Armenian living in southern California.]

[Excerpt ]"The real purpose of the resolution is not recognition of the Armenian Genocide, but a political struggle – the issue of which side has a larger political capital in Washington. . . . [T]he admission of the Armenian Genocide by Turkey is an issue of secondary importance for us. . . . our lands were seized and our 3,000-year-old culture was destroyed. . . . Therefore, our true demand is compensation for this injustice. . . . Now specialists must study the lawyers’ advice and decide which issue should be submitted to which court, as there is the International Court of Justice, European Court of Human Rights, US Federal Courts, etc. This is a most important issue. It must be studied with all seriousness, because, if we lose in court, Turkey will claim that Armenians have no legal demands."

BTW, I don't like it that it's our Congress / government that Turkey and Armenia are fighting over to get/not get resolutions monthly (almost it seems to me).

IMO a question is not how to put the blame on Germany or excuse the horror but, was Germany's involvement with the Young Turks the reason that virtually nothing was done about it at the time? Even though Germany was the enemy in W.W.I.

I've been curious about that. (from my reply #18)

The American, British, and German governments sponsored the preparation of reports on the atrocities and numerous accounts were published. On the other hand, despite the moral outrage of the international community, no strong actions were taken against the Ottoman Empire.

24 posted on 07/24/2014 4:02:19 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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