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Russian soldiers VK-page shows RUSSIA is shelling Ukraine with heavy artillery
Ukraine@War ^ | July 23rd 2014

Posted on 07/23/2014 7:43:52 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

Russian soldiers VK-page shows RUSSIA is shelling Ukraine with heavy artillery

Valdimir Petrov @_hedder found evidence of a Russian artillery unit shelling Ukrainian positions from Russian territory, because a soldier from this unit is posting photos on his VKontakte page (the Russian Facebook). Or course immediately after discovering this, his page has been deleted. But the info is still here:

"all night we were cannoning Ukraine"



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Vkontakte is apparently the Ruskie version of Facebook, and these stuck on stupid Ruskie soldiers (not merely "separatists") apparently even geotagged their photographs. You can see more photographs from these morons at the link.

It's getting harder to keep things secret with sites like facebook around, not to mention mobile phones. Even Strelkov, the Russkie agent in Ukraine, was nailed because he was bragging on their version of facebook for the shootdown. Maybe Vladimir will ban them soon.

1 posted on 07/23/2014 7:43:52 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Ooops!


2 posted on 07/23/2014 7:55:55 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

” Maybe Vladimir will ban them soon.”

It will happen.

I do respect Valds patriotic spirit, seems he is not as smart as thought.

The russian could have bought the Crimea for less than this mess has cost them.

IMHO


3 posted on 07/23/2014 8:04:47 PM PDT by glasseye
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

OK, so what?


4 posted on 07/23/2014 8:08:04 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

This means a Russian soldier has shared proof that his nation is illegally shelling a sovereign foreign country while his own president and government and military denied that they were doing it.

Oops!


5 posted on 07/23/2014 8:20:20 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Not our problem. Let Europe deal with it.


6 posted on 07/23/2014 8:20:58 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
It is clear that under Obama there is not such thing as a red line, unless it is used for talking points.
7 posted on 07/23/2014 8:26:31 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: glasseye

Vlad’s patriotic spirit is all showmanship, always was. If he was a Russian patriot, he would not spend billions of dollars rebuilding Chechnya to support a puppet Islamic regime that gets him 99 percent of the vote there. He also would not be bombing his own people sometimes, as is alleged by people like the late Alexander Litvinenko.


8 posted on 07/23/2014 9:17:25 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; nuconvert; Tailgunner Joe
See them soon:


9 posted on 07/24/2014 7:44:02 AM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Timber Rattler

In other words, leading from behind.


10 posted on 07/24/2014 9:11:01 AM PDT by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: Chad_the_Impaler

Why should we lead on anything that is going on in Europe? The U.S. has no pressing National interest in Ukraine, and even if we did, our military is in no shape to fight the Russians in their own back yard.


11 posted on 07/24/2014 10:46:45 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
The U.S. has no pressing National interest in Ukraine

Russia and its allies are our mortal enemies. We either fight them, or we do nothing and watch them take the advantage. The difference between us winning and them winning is the difference between humanity alive and humanity dead.

12 posted on 07/24/2014 12:46:09 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Russia and its allies are our mortal enemies

Our mortal enemies are invaders crossing the Mexican-US border at will, Mideastern terrorists, and US Senators. Anyone such as Putin who provides stability for his nation and thwarts terrorism should be our ally.

13 posted on 07/24/2014 12:53:05 PM PDT by grania
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Not buying it.


14 posted on 07/24/2014 1:06:58 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: grania
Anyone such as Putin who provides stability for his nation and thwarts terrorism should be our ally.

Which is stupid, since Putin supports Iran's nuclear program, and is building an Islamic caliphate in Chechnya. Anyone who says that Russia "thwarts" terrorism, when Moscow itself is the seat of terrorism of the world, is an idiot. He even used Muslim Chechens to invade Ukraine. Not only that, but "stability" in Russia was accomplished through beating and murdering his opposition and taking control of the media.

15 posted on 07/24/2014 1:08:35 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Not buying it.

I notice that you do not give something very important: the reasons.

Such a view as yours is inherently irrational, and so, I do not expect any legitimate reasons to come from the Paul-brigade and Putin-fanboys.

16 posted on 07/24/2014 1:09:24 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Boy, some of the responses to what is an act of war make me wish I were playing a game of Risk for $ with the authors.


17 posted on 07/24/2014 1:13:25 PM PDT by MWestMom (We are not designed to sacrifice for the state, we were designed to sacrifice for each other.)
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To: MWestMom
Boy, some of the responses to what is an act of war make me wish I were playing a game of Risk for $ with the authors.

"Ukraine is game to you?"


18 posted on 07/24/2014 1:14:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Just because Putin is a bad guy and Russia is threatening Europe, which despises the U.S. anyway, does not mean that we have to send our troops and spooks into another hellhole which is none of our business.

Seems that many of you warmongers have already forgotten our recent experience in Iraq, and completely ignore the fact that Russia is a completely different, larger, and certainly more lethal animal.

I say not only no to getting involved, but HELL NO!

19 posted on 07/24/2014 1:20:18 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Go get em cowboy.


20 posted on 07/24/2014 1:24:13 PM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink)
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To: everyone
BREAKING - US State Department claims #Russia has invaded the #Ukraine with advanced ufos. Signed @CNN - story at 5.
21 posted on 07/24/2014 1:26:15 PM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink)
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To: Timber Rattler
Just because Putin is a bad guy and Russia is threatening Europe, which despises the U.S. anyway, does not mean that we have to send our troops and spooks into another hellhole which is none of our business.

Just a strawman. No one said anything about sending troops. With this logic, you undermine the conservative interpretation of the cold war. Any reaction to the Soviets ought to be met with isolationism and defeatism. That is your position, while stupidly accusing people of wanting to send in "troops,' as if that's the only thing that can be done.

22 posted on 07/24/2014 1:27:53 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Just a strawman. No one said anything about sending troops. With this logic, you undermine the conservative interpretation of the cold war. Any reaction to the Soviets ought to be met with isolationism and defeatism. That is your position, while stupidly accusing people of wanting to send in "troops,' as if that's the only thing that can be done.

You're behind times:

Obama orders American ‘military advisors’ to support Ukraine against pro-Russian rebels

The Cold War was a different conflict, in which many folks around here apparently insist on re-living. The USSR was ideologically committed to world domination, and we had to act to prevent a complete global takeover by the Communists. Moreover, we had the moral authority and the economic, political, and military might with which to first contain and then defeat the Soviets.

Putin is not a Communist anymore, but a neo-Tsarist, whose goal is to rebuild the old Russian Empire, circa January 1917. He wants a European and Asian hegemony, not a complete takeover of the world. Hence, the Ukrainian conflict, which the West set off anyway by meddling there, is regional in nature, and none of our business. Additionally, even if it was our business, the U.S. no longer has the moral authority, as well as the economic and military power, to do anything about it, the current Obama regime.

23 posted on 07/24/2014 1:47:05 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
The Cold War was a different conflict, in which many folks around here apparently insist on re-living.

I like how the Paulbots and other freaks always like to tell us how the "cold war" is over and everybody who says otherwise is crazy. We have a Russkie President who is former KGB, operating what is essentially a KGB state, with a media that is programming his people to hate Americans and blame us for all the world's ills, and with a military actively attempting to rebuild the Soviet Union and beyond.

This is called "the cold war."

Putin is not a Communist anymore, but a neo-Tsarist, whose goal is to rebuild the old Russian Empire, circa January 1917.

Putin is a communist, and the "Neo-Tsarists" in Russia are also Communists. They even say so. There are "ultranationalist" and "Orthodox" Christian Communists, and they sing the same tune, and that tune is Putin and him running things, and death to the United States.

"Russia is the only country in the world which is really capable of turning the USA into radioactive ash." - Dmitry Kiselyov, General Director of Russia Today

"An important aspect of the Eurasian worldview is an absolute denail of Western Civilization. In the opinion of the Eurasians, the West with its ideology of liberalism [Democracy] is an absolute evil." - Aleksandr Dugin, Political Scientist and adviser to MP Sergei Naryshkin

He wants a European and Asian hegemony, not a complete takeover of the world.

IOW, he just wants part of the world, not all of it.

Additionally, even if it was our business, the U.S. no longer has the moral authority, as well as the economic and military power, to do anything about it, the current Obama regime.

No one ever had moral authority fighting the Nazis. They were teamed up with Joseph Stalin. That is not a reason to not defend yourself. If I am guilty of some great sin, that does not mean it is okay for someone to rape and murder my family. This is no logic at all.

24 posted on 07/24/2014 1:56:00 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Just to add to your post....

....during the Cold War there was ‘diplomacy’ and ‘safeguards’ that are not there today with our run away administration and that of Ukraine's. Nuclear weaponry was considered ‘mutually’ a last resort.

In 2002 A Senate discussion with Defense took place where it was spoken that certain Nuclear weapons could be used “safely” in a conventional war without affecting the nearby citizenry, and that use of these would ‘not require’ Presidential consent.

That session sent shivers down everyone’s spine and.. ‘changed the equation’.. entirely from the cold war parameters and safeguards. We are no longer in that era.

I agree the Russia today is not the Russia of that time as well...and will add....the Russian people are accustomed to hard and difficult times, they will continue to rally with Putin the more the US pushes against their leader, who has already proved his allegiance to their country and it's people....they 'trust' him even if some may at times may question his moves. ( just a side note FYI.....Kiev's directing scads of revenues and rapidly building up their airstipes.)

25 posted on 07/24/2014 2:06:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: Timber Rattler

This guy got it right even back then.

“I have one yardstick by which I test every major problem - and that yardstick is:......Is it good for America?”
~Dwight D. Eisenhower


26 posted on 07/24/2014 2:14:17 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
I agree the Russia today is not the Russia of that time as well...and will add....the Russian people are accustomed to hard and difficult times, they will continue to rally with Putin the more the US pushes against their leader, who has already proved his allegiance to their country and it's people....they 'trust' him even if some may at times may question his moves. ( just a side note FYI.....Kiev's directing scads of revenues and rapidly building up their airstipes.)

As usual you are a butt kissing Putinista. Tell this to all those people murdered and imprisoned by your hero Putin, that he has "earned their trust."

27 posted on 07/24/2014 2:27:54 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yes, I know... your family and others likely suffered under the USSR.....and Putin does crack down on those now who would create issues in his country. Nobody’s saying he’s a saint by any means...but he does know the people of his country and where they have been and need to come to...

....and they aren’t Americans nor with our history to determine how their country is run. They get to determine that and they support him. For any who have checked it’s pretty easy to see why they do.


28 posted on 07/24/2014 2:33:04 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Yes, I know... your family and others likely suffered under the USSR.....

I am Hispanic, you dufus, and a native of Texas. I'm just conservative, so naturally I do not worship Putin like you do.

and Putin does crack down on those now who would create issues in his country.

That's an interesting way to put it. So when someone does not want to go along with the KGB, they are "creating issues in his country"? Well, we gotta have someone to sort out these troublemakers, eh?

Nobody’s saying he’s a saint by any means...but he does know the people of his country and where they have been and need to come to...

You are not saying he is a saint, thereby agreeing that he is a mass murderer of his own people and a tyrant, and then you say "but he does know the people of his country." Yes, big brother always knows best.

Your sycophantic love of Putin is showing.

29 posted on 07/24/2014 2:36:06 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Something too brighten your day


30 posted on 07/24/2014 2:47:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: AdmSmith

Yep, and public executions are warranted after trials that show the world the horror these Russian psychopaths have committed.


31 posted on 07/24/2014 3:44:48 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Timber Rattler; tcrlaf; McGruff
You gotta see this!

FOOTAGE Shows Unexploded BM30 SMERCH Missile “in Living Room”....in East Ukraine...(IMO this has nothing to do with ridding East Ukraine's of “terrorist’... This looks like warfare missiles and all the destruction that goes with him or without declared war....these are being used throughout Donetsk and Lugansk communities....and even OSCE reported to UN that Kiev is firing where there are no separatists or terrorist’s, rather civilian areas causing no threat.....Kiev is absolutely destroying Eastern Ukraine...for profit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz3RGHZFHVI

32 posted on 07/24/2014 4:15:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

There have been reports and videos of Kiev using the heavy “Smerch” rockets, as well as the even heavier type (Can’t remember the name), against civilian areas for 3 weeks now. These are, by nature, indiscriminate area weapons.

Of course, I have been called every name in the book for pointing this out.


33 posted on 07/24/2014 4:20:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: McGruff

I’m afraid our boys will end up taking this if Obama and the Eu and Russia don’t stand down....and this is just a practice run....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnTwNzNJL10


34 posted on 07/24/2014 4:23:07 PM PDT by caww
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To: Timber Rattler
Not our problem. Let Europe deal with it.

They need Russia's oil and gas too much.

35 posted on 07/24/2014 4:28:17 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Russia and its allies are our mortal enemies.

No, not really.

36 posted on 07/24/2014 4:29:32 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
No, not really.

Thanks for setting me straight on that. Your powerful argument really taught me a lesson.

37 posted on 07/24/2014 4:33:41 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf
Of course, I have been called every name in the book for pointing this out.

It might be because your sources are Russian media (though you rarely post any support for anything you say), which have been proven to be liars, just like you.

38 posted on 07/24/2014 4:35:04 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: caww
and even OSCE reported to UN that Kiev is firing where there are no separatists or terrorist’s, rather civilian areas causing no threat.

Notice that instead of pinging this to me, you ping it to your fellow travelers. Is it because you know I'll ask you to provide proof?

39 posted on 07/24/2014 4:36:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Drew68
Not our problem. Let Europe deal with it.

They need Russia's oil and gas too much.

Well they better start kissing some butt. We got own border problems.

40 posted on 07/24/2014 4:37:09 PM PDT by McGruff (I'd rather protect our border than Ukraine's.)
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To: caww

exercise...yea exercise in killing Ukrainians, Quisling.


41 posted on 07/24/2014 4:37:24 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Kiev Media has proven to be liars, as well, but I don’t see you childishly insulting anyone over that.
Now, I wonder why that is??


42 posted on 07/24/2014 4:38:03 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: caww

laughable props... ha ha ha


43 posted on 07/24/2014 4:38:39 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: tcrlaf
Kiev Media has proven to be liars, as well,

You know, I've seen this claim many times, but I've never seen any of you ever provide evidence for this assertion. It's just kind of what you say every time your sources are proven to be fraudulent.

Now, I wonder why that is??

You are a pathological liar, so we both know you do not wonder about it.

44 posted on 07/24/2014 4:39:06 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: caww

Is this conversation now about “Guns and Roses”?

Somebody get Axel on the phone.

PS: Beautiful rose!


45 posted on 07/24/2014 4:39:41 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: tcrlaf

Kiev can’t even control the kids in kiev, let alone sit on these punks butts.....here’s the little nazi brats downtown attacking a news office in Kiev July 5,2014...watch the street in the right corner, before they even get there...and they just keep coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nhBRUd7dc8


46 posted on 07/24/2014 4:40:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Thanks for setting me straight on that. Your powerful argument really taught me a lesson.

My powerful arguments? Try looking at history. You engaged in hyperbole in calling Russia our "mortal enemies" and this clearly is not the case.

Our mortal enemy is militant Islam. Get a grip.

47 posted on 07/24/2014 4:43:17 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: tcrlaf

It’s more than reports ...there’s footage of them being fired as they go overhead in the ATO area....here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOpy0NQRieU


48 posted on 07/24/2014 4:43:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yes, they are just pure as the driven snow, right? No propaganda whatsoever coming out of Kiev??

Lol... I really do enjoy a good laugh. Thanks!


49 posted on 07/24/2014 4:44:31 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: caww

“Kiev can’t even control the kids in kiev”

It has been some 9 hours since the government fell in Kiev. CNN hasn’t even mentioned it.


50 posted on 07/24/2014 4:45:24 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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