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Communist Party Ousted From Ukraine Parliament
Moscow Times ^ | 7-23-2014 | Commies Stow

Posted on 07/23/2014 8:53:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf

The Communist Party of Ukraine will cease to exist on Thursday, the speaker of Ukraine's parliament announced.

"We only have to tolerate this party for another day," Verkhovnaya Rada speaker Oleksandr Turchinov said on Wednesday in comments carried by online news portal Ostro.org.

Discussion of the Communist Party's dissolution began in earnest in May, after party leader Petro Simonenko said that if he were in charge of the country, he would immediately call back the troops from eastern Ukraine, referring to the military operations taking place there as acts of "war against the people," RIA Novosti reported.

Turchinov, who was serving at the time as acting president, then appealed to the Justice Ministry to request an investigation into the Communist Party's activities.

Russia's State Duma denounced the move at the time, viewing it as an attempt by the new Kiev authorities to "force political and civil forces that do not agree with the path taken by the ultranationalist powers to shut up," according to RIA Novosti.

The Verkhovnaya Rada paved the way for the party's dissolution on Tuesday by amending its rules to vest the speaker of the house with power to dissolve the Communist Party. On Tuesday evening, President Petro Poroshenko signed a bill giving effect to the new regulations.

Turchinov's announcement was made on Wednesday morning amid heavy infighting.

Speaking before his fellow parliamentarians, Simonenko made a statement about Ukraine's security services having allegedly "destroyed" citizens for black-market organ transplants, Interfax reported, citing members of the nationalist Svoboda Party.

Svoboda Party members then accused Simonenko of disseminating false information, and endeavored to physically eject him from the parliament.

An all-out brawl promptly ensued.

Amid the chaos, Turchinov exercised his new powers to announce the party's impending dissolution, before calling for a 15-minute break so deputies could calm down. Following the news, all of the Communist Party members present at the time then reportedly walked out.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: civilwar; communists; goodriddance; ukraine; ukrainianrussianwar
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Next up is the Party of Regions, that Svoboda also wants banned.

This has been floating around in the ether all day, but this is the first English Language article I've seen.

While I can't support anything the "Communist Party" stands for, they are the legitimate elected reps for their areas, and this just adds even more fuel to the Russian Media memes out there about who is really in control in Kiev.

The regime is moving to silence all dissent, and also declared "Marshal Law Lite" today. Let the "Piano voting" commence!

1 posted on 07/23/2014 8:53:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf
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To: tcrlaf
While I can't support anything the "Communist Party" stands for, they are the legitimate elected reps for their areas, and this just adds even more fuel to the Russian Media memes out there about who is really in control in Kiev.

The Communists all over the world have been supporting Moscow. They should be banned here too, including politicians with links to the KGB, though you'd have to go underground too, tcrlaf.

3 posted on 07/23/2014 8:56:48 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf

All of this comes on the heels of a Communist Party official being arrested, tortured, and killed by Kiev police, yesterday.


4 posted on 07/23/2014 8:56:50 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

I’m surprised they didn’t round them all up and shoot them in 1991.


5 posted on 07/23/2014 8:57:43 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: tcrlaf

Meanwhile, in the afro-soebarkah dictatorship of Obama and the activist courts, the communist party is doing just fine. They’re called Democrats!


6 posted on 07/23/2014 8:58:20 PM PDT by Viennacon (Barry Obama? No... Barack Hussein Soebarkah.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

lol...
You’re funny.
I am ANYTHING but a communist, feel free to check my decade of postings.

Because I don’t accept the Kiev OR Moscow PR line at face-value, you might as well have called me, “A racist that hates the idea of black President”, right?


7 posted on 07/23/2014 8:59:57 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

There communist movement has a global and international component which the nationalist and Western conservatives do not have.


8 posted on 07/23/2014 9:00:43 PM PDT by Red6
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To: tcrlaf

For his organs, no doubt.


9 posted on 07/23/2014 9:01:54 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tcrlaf

Correction:

The Communist Member of the Rada was named V.M. Kovshun.

He was arrested and tortured to death by Kiev’s National Guard, not the police.


10 posted on 07/23/2014 9:02:32 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Because I don’t accept the Kiev OR Moscow PR line at face-value

You are a liar. You always take the Moscow PR line, and you even dance when Ukrainians are killed.

As for your decade of posting, considering your strategic lies told on this forum, even lies told about me, knowingly, I do not think you are a normal poster. A normal poster does not lie to the degree that you do. You are either some kind of a psycopath, or else you infiltrated this forum a decade ago. I am happy with either conclusion, however.

11 posted on 07/23/2014 9:03:22 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf

Video of the brawl in the Rada:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku-yJx9kdlY&list=PLkgMSODp36B5P8AuAhAEOP9R9CpMeM215


12 posted on 07/23/2014 9:05:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

as if most of us would believe anything from the Kremlin


13 posted on 07/23/2014 9:05:17 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Anything to add about the story above? Or are you just flame trolling again?


14 posted on 07/23/2014 9:06:15 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

tcrlaf has been on FR a long time. If you’re going to accuse him of something, present evidence.

I have to say I predicted this was going to happen. I would not be surprised if Ukraine saw the rise of a Lukaschenko-like figure any day now.


15 posted on 07/23/2014 9:06:47 PM PDT by Viennacon (Barry Obama? No... Barack Hussein Soebarkah.)
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To: tcrlaf

When in Rome........

Tactically and politically, you have to do some suppression. If it gets out of hand, it could be a problem but we have to wait and see.

What I am saying is, that if this had happened in the US and we had fractious parties in Congress or even groups like the Black Caucus. They would be likely suppressed until order is restored in the country. We might even institute martial law as well as wide open detainment policies.

It seems to me, that a number of you seem to have knee jerk reactions to every action taken by the Ukraine government. At least it seems so to me.

I would ask you to consider what I have said. We would act no differently if it happened to the US.

And it might......


16 posted on 07/23/2014 9:07:28 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: tcrlaf
Anything to add about the story above?

Yes, FR needs to zot its commies the way the Ukrainians ban theirs.

17 posted on 07/23/2014 9:08:27 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: GeronL

Oleg Tyagnivok of Svoboda: Next step must be to ban both communist party and ideology, and start criminal persecution

https://twitter.com/potifar66/status/491593873672929280/photo/1


18 posted on 07/23/2014 9:08:27 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Svoboda only holds 35 of 449 seats


19 posted on 07/23/2014 9:08:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

The 23 communists won’t be missed, I am pretty sure.


20 posted on 07/23/2014 9:09:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cold Heat
And it might......

We'll be lucky not to get banned ourselves once amnesty comes, and there's plenty of RINOs willing to make it happen.

21 posted on 07/23/2014 9:09:46 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Viennacon
tcrlaf has been on FR a long time. If you’re going to accuse him of something, present evidence.

His posting history for the past 3 months would be a good start.

22 posted on 07/23/2014 9:10:54 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Red6

They have 87 parties in that country, how many of them are fronts for the communists?


23 posted on 07/23/2014 9:11:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cold Heat

Ukraine is in a totally different situation to the USA. Were there an actual revolution here, the changes would be waaaay more drastic. In Ukraine, its largely business as usual. Petro Praschenko is likely going to be just the same corrupt-wise as his three predecessors.

For starters, who would oppose trying the democrat caucus for treason? Fair trials, but there is no way Harry Reid wouldn’t be convicted


24 posted on 07/23/2014 9:11:39 PM PDT by Viennacon (Barry Obama? No... Barack Hussein Soebarkah.)
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To: tcrlaf

I wish the US would do that


25 posted on 07/23/2014 9:12:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

JimRob is 100% against amnesty and has said as much. Nobody will ever be banned for opposing the INVASION from Central America.


26 posted on 07/23/2014 9:12:45 PM PDT by Viennacon (Barry Obama? No... Barack Hussein Soebarkah.)
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To: Cold Heat

“We might even institute martial law as well as wide open detainment policies.”

“We” wouldn’t, but our opponents have been openly talking about doing it, in the last couple of years.

This was posted on FR just yesterday:
“Dem Rep. Crisanta Duran Caught Chanting “Death to CO GOP””
http://coloradopeakpolitics.com/2014/07/21/crass-dem-rep-crisanta-duran-caught-chanting-death-to-co-gop/

No matter what you think about what is happening in Ukraine, you cannot think that banning parties, and throwing the legally elected Reps out of their “Congress” is a good idea.


27 posted on 07/23/2014 9:12:56 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Viennacon
Ukraine is in a totally different situation to the USA. Were there an actual revolution here, the changes would be waaaay more drastic. In Ukraine, its largely business as usual. Petro Praschenko is likely going to be just the same corrupt-wise as his three predecessors.

The beautiful part of Ukraine is not necessarily its politicians (though Poroshenko is doing well), but it's people, who understand anti-communism and the Russian threat much better than the West does, and are growing stronger all the time.

I'll stand with any people willing to stand up to the commies, particularly the Russkies, or the Chicoms, or any shade inbetween.

28 posted on 07/23/2014 9:13:41 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Viennacon
JimRob is 100% against amnesty and has said as much. Nobody will ever be banned for opposing the INVASION from Central America.

People ought to be banned for supporting the Reds, and that's what the Muscovites still are.

29 posted on 07/23/2014 9:15:36 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf
All of this comes on the heels of a Communist Party official being arrested, tortured, and killed by Kiev police, yesterday.

Thank you so much for that bit of good news!

See? The world's a better place already. :)


30 posted on 07/23/2014 9:18:15 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

and once their national sovereignty is assured again, they can work on the politicians who are left in power.

Because without defending their borders, everything else becomes pointless.


31 posted on 07/23/2014 9:18:36 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

As I read the article, a Rada committee (?) simply “amended a rule” to allow the banishment of ... a party?
Gee, that’s pretty much what our socialists have done/are doing here, isn’t it?
And if the commies are elected representatives, well, that does complicate things, to be sure, aaarrrgggh

So the commies go home, tell their people “Hey, we tried!” and everyone in those area starts cleaning the cosmoline off Pa’s old double-barrel Saiga.


32 posted on 07/23/2014 9:19:10 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: GeronL

“Svoboda only holds 35 of 449 seats”

While yielding influence FAR beyond their numbers, mainly because they “control” (or has influence with) most of the Right Sector militias and much of the Nat Guard.

They also have the most Obama support.


33 posted on 07/23/2014 9:19:42 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

Obama is way too busy fundraising. He is in Hancock Park right now while illegals swarm the border and murder Americans


34 posted on 07/23/2014 9:21:13 PM PDT by Viennacon (Barry Obama? No... Barack Hussein Soebarkah.)
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To: GeronL
The 23 communists won’t be missed, I am pretty sure.

I'm sure Otrama has a post for them in the US govmint.

35 posted on 07/23/2014 9:21:22 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: tumblindice
So the commies go home, tell their people “Hey, we tried!” and everyone in those area starts cleaning the cosmoline off Pa’s old double-barrel Saiga.

In the East and South, where poll after poll has shown only ever had a minority of support for the separatists, the only type of supporters the separatists could get were usually the Communist types, waving their flags. Let them go join them and then take a bullet.

36 posted on 07/23/2014 9:23:14 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf
"We only have to tolerate this party for another day,"

Apparently the "liberal and progressive" communists are a-hols there just as much as our "liberal and progressive" communists (democrats) are here.

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37 posted on 07/23/2014 9:23:52 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: tcrlaf

If the other side consists of commies and Russian invaders stealing their national territory, then that is an easy choice.

After they protect their country and national integrity they can start working on repairing and fixing their country again.


38 posted on 07/23/2014 9:25:25 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cold Heat

God willing, the American people will show the same courage as the people of Ukraine and stand up and overthrow the commies and traitors destroying our nation, and take America back.


39 posted on 07/23/2014 9:27:17 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“His posting history for the past 3 months would be a good start.”

It might actually be...
I have actually been paying ATTENTION to what has been happening since a couple of weeks before the coup.

My opinions are based on what I have seen since then, and what I knew about the region before that, which was mainly superficial.

You are obviously horribly biased, and cannot bring yourself to allow anyone to post anything that doesn’t match the Kiev/Obama party line.


40 posted on 07/23/2014 9:27:37 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: GeronL

If you’ve watched the tapes of Ukrainian parliamentary brawls going back over a decade you’ll know Ukraine is less a country, more a boxing ring containing people who hate each other. A lot like Yugoslavia. Glad BJ Clinton isn’t around to try and kill all the Christians.


41 posted on 07/23/2014 9:27:40 PM PDT by Viennacon (Barry Obama? No... Barack Hussein Soebarkah.)
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To: tcrlaf

Obama supports Putin. Everything else is just kabuki theater.


42 posted on 07/23/2014 9:28:05 PM PDT by No One Special
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To: TLI

So do they hold new elections for those abandoned seats or do these people still technically hold them until the next election?


43 posted on 07/23/2014 9:28:29 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf
Communist Party Ousted From Ukraine Parliament

Now, if only we could do that in Congress, the executive branch and the court system.

44 posted on 07/23/2014 9:28:44 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: No One Special

Obama and Putin seem to have the same goals


45 posted on 07/23/2014 9:29:20 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: tcrlaf

Obama does not support Svoboda at all and has never even met with them. Just another of your many commie lies.


46 posted on 07/23/2014 9:29:37 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Viennacon
less a country, more a boxing ring containing people who hate each other

The US is heading that way

47 posted on 07/23/2014 9:30:02 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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You are obviously horribly biased,

Says the guy constantly shedding tears for the commies, and lying out his butt.

49 posted on 07/23/2014 9:31:39 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf

Expel all Russians from Ukraine and all will be solved. You know your boy Putin speaks of the great achievements of Soviet Communism, and that Svoboda is not running Ukraine.


50 posted on 07/23/2014 9:32:13 PM PDT by Clemenza (Lurking)
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