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Loud Americans: Villagers answer cafe ban on visitors
BBC ^ | 23 July 2014 | Staff reporter

Posted on 07/24/2014 4:01:33 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick

The business community in an Irish village has hit back at a cafe owner who has refused to serve "loud Americans".

Peter Fitzgerald of Waterville, County Kerry, annoyed villagers when he posted a notice in his cafe banning coach parties and loud Americans.

The story went viral on social media and was picked up by dozens of newspapers around the world.

The village, however, has assured all, loud or not, of a warm welcome.

Business people and residents took to the streets on Tuesday to send out a strong message to visitors.

Albert Walsh, chairman of Waterville Business Association, said: "What we want to do is reflect the real attitude to America.

"There is a loud welcome in Waterville for all loud American visitors and friends.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: discrimination; ireland
Interesting little story.
1 posted on 07/24/2014 4:01:33 AM PDT by PotatoHeadMick
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To: PotatoHeadMick

He has a right to serve or not serve whoever he pleases. It’s his business.


2 posted on 07/24/2014 4:10:25 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

“He has a right to serve or not serve whoever he pleases. It’s his business.”

He certainly should have that right. It’s debatable whether or not that applies in America. As someone who interacts regularly with another culture, I also have to agree that most Americans are quite loud...and vulgar. It’s almost embarrassing sometimes to hear how rude and crude some of us can be. I endeavor to be different, but it’s the way most of us (Americans) are raised.


3 posted on 07/24/2014 4:15:20 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

A bus load of aging ass holes could be a lot to take. For peace of mind, they can just stay away.


4 posted on 07/24/2014 4:18:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

I was in Waterville on my honeymoon. Lovely little town, but not everyone there was welcoming of tourists.

Dinner was fine, but we did walk into the wrong pub afterwards.

Of course, I wasn’t part of a busload of people either.


5 posted on 07/24/2014 4:30:42 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Westbrook

I agree it is his right to refuse service.

However it should be noted he does not live on an island alone. His decision affects many others in the town that may relie on the tourist dollar to get by.

So they also have a right to express their opinion, and seek to change the pub’s owner to change their mind (and in a small community, it would be difficult to live in when everyone is mad at you).

In this case I support both sides and hope a compromise can be reached.


6 posted on 07/24/2014 4:40:45 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Irish Diplomacy:
The art of telling someone to go to hell, and having
them look forward to the trip.

7 posted on 07/24/2014 4:45:02 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: CitizenUSA
hmmm... perhaps in comparison to some others, but it depends on which part of the country the person comes from. Also, I find Germans, Chinese, Gujaratis to be loud -- sometimes too loud.

But then in comparison to the Dutch or Finnish, yes, Americans are loud. however, I find the Irish to be cloud to decibel level, so I don't understand the fuss..

8 posted on 07/24/2014 4:45:44 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: CitizenUSA

” I also have to agree that most Americans are quite loud...and vulgar”

I disagree. I’ve done some traveling, and I can tell you that the rudest tourists are French, German, and Japanese.

About ten years ago, my wife had a meeting in Prague, and she dragged me along (kicking and creaming the whole way:)) the company that sponsored here attendance took us out to dinner the last night of the meeting in a very nice restaurant. While the Americans looked on in embarrassment, hoping we wouldn’t be blamed, a Brit and a Dane, both of them physicians, deep in their cups, got so rowdy that they almost got us all thrown out. My wife and I decided to leave before that happened.


9 posted on 07/24/2014 4:51:20 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: SoothingDave

“we did walk into the wrong pub afterwards.”

Oh, you gotta tell the rest of that story.


10 posted on 07/24/2014 4:54:34 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Liberty Valance
“Irish Diplomacy:
The art of telling someone to go to hell, and having
them look forward to the trip.”

Had a supervisor like that once, he'd call you into his office, criticize your work and call you a moron and make it sound like a compliment. It usually took about a 1/2 hour to realize “hey, he just insulted the crap outtta me”......................It's a real talent.

11 posted on 07/24/2014 4:58:36 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: V_TWIN

lol!


12 posted on 07/24/2014 5:04:00 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

> His decision affects many others in the town that may relie
> on the tourist dollar to get by.

Running a little close to collectivism, or as Clinton put it, “Communitarianism”.

> they also have a right to express their opinion, and seek
> to change the pub’s owner to change their mind

Fine, as long is it doesn’t become coercive by threat of force. Boycotts are effective.


13 posted on 07/24/2014 5:13:48 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

When was the last time you were in a pub or restaurant where you could hear the person next or you without shouting? I would pay more for QUIET! You cannot find a quiet meal or drink anywhere. They banned smoking, no T-shirts and bare feet...why can’t they ban NOISE?


14 posted on 07/24/2014 5:14:06 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$)
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To: Westbrook

Yes, he does have that right.

And the other business owners in the village have a right to criticize him for it, and make it clear they do not share his attitude.


15 posted on 07/24/2014 5:14:45 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Just hope Irish immigrants to NYC and Irish exchange students in San Diego stop getting drunk publicly and in the case of the exchange students, stop trashing their dorms and rented rooms...


16 posted on 07/24/2014 5:17:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

The pub owner should at least use proper punctuation in his efforts to drive away business.

The plural of “American” does not take an apostrophe.


17 posted on 07/24/2014 5:19:55 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

Translation: We may not want YOU, but we love your money!


18 posted on 07/24/2014 5:23:52 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: bert

“A bus load of aging ass holes could be a lot to take. For peace of mind, they can just stay away.”

One of these days you’ll be an aging asshole if you live that long.


19 posted on 07/24/2014 5:24:38 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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20 posted on 07/24/2014 5:26:32 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: IronJack

Yep, nothing like a “drunken Irishmen” to get things riled up.


21 posted on 07/24/2014 5:26:38 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: dljordan

As one that is 72, I find it difficult to prevent the wisdom that continuously just bubbles up from being conveyed


22 posted on 07/24/2014 5:28:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: V_TWIN; SoothingDave

Self ping to hear the rest of Dave’s story...should he care to share it (which I hope he does too)


23 posted on 07/24/2014 5:33:30 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

“I SAID, ‘DO YOU HAVE ANY PO-TAY-TOES!!!!’”


24 posted on 07/24/2014 5:57:39 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Westbrook

Really?

Can refuse service for anyone?- that’s a laugh!

Homo’s kissing at the bar?
Lesbo’s- doing the same thing?
black wannabe rappers- with wife beater shirts/pants pulled down to reveal the color of under ware?

In America- try tossing these people out-you will lose
your business to the lawsuits filed by the feds.

(there is currently a bar in mineeesooota that is being
called out as racist for trying to ban certain “thugs”-gang colors)

The city is looking if it can force them to take down
the sign- and others are looking to challenge and sue.


25 posted on 07/24/2014 5:58:55 AM PDT by mj1234
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To: mj1234

Apparently, Ireland is still somewhat a free country.

The USA is not.


26 posted on 07/24/2014 6:05:45 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook
Correct.

I am always appalled by the behavior of people in public places.

Going to a café, etc. why should I have to hear EVERY word that is spoken at the next table, booth or from the table all the way across the place?

Americans need to learn how to conduct themselves in public... especially women, who are more coarse and unrefined all the time.

27 posted on 07/24/2014 6:06:58 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: V_TWIN

Working in the south, from ny, I was told I had a talent for telling people off without really letting them know that’s what I was doing. It wasn’t conscious, just normal...a polite amber of protecting coworkers and maintaining efficiency

I guess that’s Irish. Hmm


28 posted on 07/24/2014 6:51:12 AM PDT by stanne
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
They banned smoking, no T-shirts and bare feet...why can’t they ban NOISE?

Correction: GOOBERMINTS ban smoking. If an owner wanted to do so, like dress restrictions, that's fine with me. When the goobermint does so it's based on propaganda and junk science.

It's something that does not belong in a "free country".

29 posted on 07/24/2014 7:32:33 AM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick; Slings and Arrows; Revolting cat!
Peter Fitzgerald of Waterville, County Kerry, annoyed villagers when he posted a notice in his cafe banning coach parties and loud Americans.

"CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!"

#IMAGETRIGHTONIT

30 posted on 07/24/2014 8:52:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: PotatoHeadMick

I’ve been wanting to visit Ireland, however, I’m the least loud American that I know.

“Speak softly and carry a big stick”, “A soft answer turneth away wrath” etc.


31 posted on 07/24/2014 9:03:04 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: FourtySeven; V_TWIN

Not a lot to it. We went into the “Fishermens’ Pub” and it was literally for the village’s fishermen. Everyone was talking Irish (Gaelic) and the bartender was in no hurry to wait on us.

A couple of younger fellows did befriend us and we chatted while we had one drink. I went to the men’s room and had a hard time getting down the corridor to it because I didn’t know how to say “excuse me, pardon me, get the #$@ out of my way” in Irish.

We finished our drink and got out to more friendly places in town. There was a definite “you don’t belong here” vibe.


32 posted on 07/24/2014 9:16:56 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

"QUIET! SHUDDUP! QUIET!! I HATE NOISE!! I CAN'T STANDS NOISE!! WHAT THE MATTA? YOU DEEF OR SOMETHIN'??"

33 posted on 07/24/2014 9:20:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SoothingDave; FourtySeven

“bartender was in no hurry to wait on us/There was a definite “you don’t belong here” vibe.

Hmm, you sure you weren’t in France?


34 posted on 07/24/2014 9:27:31 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Cronos

I heard Germans were pretty loud, and I can’t say I have much experience in that regard. I also don’t know much about the Chinese. However, Americans do seem to stand out in my travels. If I’m in a local community and I hear a loud and boisterous group, it tends to be Americans.


35 posted on 07/24/2014 3:27:41 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Perhaps we’ve been to different places :) But here in Poland the noisiest are the English — drunk mostly in Kraków.


36 posted on 07/25/2014 2:33:32 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: V_TWIN

it’s the accent ya fooghghink koounth. Though strangely enough, the Irish accent only soounds nice to us English speakers (and probably to Germanic and Italic speakers as well), but to Slavic speakers and Indic speakers it sounds bad, like the Scottish accent


37 posted on 07/25/2014 3:34:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

This entire thread is about subjective generalizations. I agree with letting people run their own businesses however they want, regardless of whether Americans are noisy or not.

In America, on the other hand, it seems we give up all constitutional rights the instant we open a business. That is wrong. Government must not discriminate against or show favor for anyone.

This madness we have today where special interests constantly battle to carve out special rights is a major part of what is wrong with the country. There’s no end to it UNLESS we return to the ideals enshrined in the US Constitution.


38 posted on 07/25/2014 5:13:30 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Cronos

I once mentioned to an Australian lass that her accent was wonderful. She looked shocked and said it was we Americans that had beautiful accents! I’m pretty sure I don’t have an accent...at least none I’ve heard.


39 posted on 07/25/2014 5:16:05 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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