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Air Algerie plane 'disappears' with 116 on board: live
Daily Telegraph ^ | 24 July 2014 | By Andrew Marszal

Posted on 07/24/2014 4:37:03 AM PDT by BlackVeil

Air Algerie plane with 110 passengers and six crew loses contact with air traffic control and disappears from radar after taking off from Burkina Faso on flight to Algeria ...

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ah5017; airalgerie; algeria; castro; niger; plane
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Full story at link. The plane has disappeared over Africa. There are rumours that it crashed but no confirmation.
1 posted on 07/24/2014 4:37:03 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

What is this, three crashes in the past couple of weeks over there in that areas. Man, I am glad I quit flying back in the 1990’s.


2 posted on 07/24/2014 4:38:47 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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To: BlackVeil

I suspect islam is involved. Either by choice or ignorance.


3 posted on 07/24/2014 4:47:49 AM PDT by soycd
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To: BlackVeil

“An Air Algerie flight en route to Algiers from Burkina Faso with 116 people aboard disappeared from radar early Thursday over the Sahara, the official Algerian news agency said.

Air navigation services lost track of AH0517 about 50 minutes after takeoff at 0155 GMT, the agency said. That means that it had been missing for hours before the news was made public.”


4 posted on 07/24/2014 4:48:06 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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“Flight AH 5017 had 110 passengers and six crew on board, according to the Spanish airline Swiftair, which owns the plane.

Alex Duval-Smith in Mali said there was “very bad weather” in the area, as well as “armed groups”.”


5 posted on 07/24/2014 4:50:12 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Yeah, the last flight I took was to Reagan International, Sept 10th 2001 because I had an appointment at Walter Reed and was stranded there.

I’ve worked my life around no flying ever since.


6 posted on 07/24/2014 4:51:02 AM PDT by corlorde ("It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yes, they kept it to themselves for several hours - I imagine them frantic to find out where the plane is.


7 posted on 07/24/2014 4:51:07 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: RetiredArmy

>>Man, I am glad I quit flying back in the 1990’s.<<

I fly every week, including today.

Pray for me...


8 posted on 07/24/2014 4:53:37 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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9 posted on 07/24/2014 4:56:12 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: RetiredArmy

I quit flying commercial in July ‘96, after TWA 800 was shot down. If I can’t drive there, I don’t need to go there.


10 posted on 07/24/2014 4:59:57 AM PDT by carriage_hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: freedumb2003

Flown commercial one time in the last 25 years and that was because the plane was in Dallas for it’s yearly check up. Our first was a King Air, Citation 2, Citation 4 and now we have a Citation XLS.


11 posted on 07/24/2014 5:00:55 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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Sky News understands airlines had been warned in recent days not to fly over Mali.

The plane involved is a McDonnell Douglas MD-83 operated by Swiftair. The plane was asked to change route at 1.38am GMT (2.38am BST) because of a storm in the area.


12 posted on 07/24/2014 5:05:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just talked to hubby who is a pilot in Burkina Faso. They would have been over Niger, not Mali.


13 posted on 07/24/2014 5:07:53 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: BlackVeil

If the Mooselimb Brothers shot it down would it be Obama’s fault?

Pray America is waking up


14 posted on 07/24/2014 5:09:12 AM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: BlackVeil

How far can those Russian missiles fly?


15 posted on 07/24/2014 5:11:22 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink)
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To: pops88

Nevermind, just saw the update it was over Northern Mali.


16 posted on 07/24/2014 5:11:57 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: RetiredArmy

Commuting by car is getting almost as bad these days. /rant


17 posted on 07/24/2014 5:16:11 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink)
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To: BlackVeil

I love flying.

It’s airports I hate.

And it’s ALL the fault of the muzzies.


18 posted on 07/24/2014 5:16:22 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: BlackVeil

That would put them in the area of Bourem in Mali.

UTA Flight 722 was blown out of the sky in 1989 by a bomb in the cargo hold, and wound up abou 800 miles east, in the desert in Niger.

Lybian associated Muslim terrorists in that case... Fighting for control of Congo.


19 posted on 07/24/2014 5:16:42 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Health Care Haiku: If You Have a Right / To the Labor I Provide / I Must Be Your Slave)
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To: McGruff

S-300/SA-20Bs have a range of 121 miles. And Russia has cheerfully sold weapons systems all over Africa at this point.


20 posted on 07/24/2014 5:18:33 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BlackVeil

Is this Islam at it’s best?!!

And if it is... has anyone heard from so-called moderate Muslimes that this needs to stop? Don’t hold your breath.

Islam is an evil cult of domination and death.


21 posted on 07/24/2014 5:20:39 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: BlackVeil

Gosh!! One plane disappears ok, but two?! If this stays “disappeared”, I say there’s trouble in River City folks.

With a capital “T” if you know what I mean.


22 posted on 07/24/2014 5:23:27 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: ThomasMore

At the moment, it is just a mystery. There is no confirmation of WHERE the plane is.


23 posted on 07/24/2014 5:23:54 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: BlackVeil

Bad month for aviation.


24 posted on 07/24/2014 5:31:20 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: left that other site
I love flying. It’s airports I hate. And it’s ALL the fault of the muzzies.

The muzzies may have provided the rationale but it's the fault of Bush and Congress, made worse by Obama. "Security theatre" does not provide security, it only erodes rights.

25 posted on 07/24/2014 5:34:32 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: Eleutheria5

Trouble always seems to run in groups of threes. Why? I have no idea.


26 posted on 07/24/2014 5:38:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: soycd

Seemed like it was pretty easy to shoot down Malayasia Flight 17. If the Islam terrorists get these missile systems, they could have a heyday.


27 posted on 07/24/2014 5:39:55 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (If Obama hated America and wanted to destroy her, what would he do differently?)
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French army spokesman Gilles Jaron says: “Two Mirage 2000 jets based in Africa ... will search an area from its last known location along its probable route.”


28 posted on 07/24/2014 5:42:17 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

rationale? They are terrorists. Bush had nothing to do with muslims taking over planes. There would have been more terrorism if it were not for Bush and we had had the likes of Al Gore or John Kerry in the WH during that period. The fault for terrorism lies with muslims not George Bush.


29 posted on 07/24/2014 5:43:48 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: BlackVeil
Mali manual suggests al-Qaida has feared weapon By RUKMINI CALLIMACHI — Jun. 11, 2013 5:50 PM EDT

"TIMBUKTU, Mali (AP) — The photocopies of the manual lay in heaps on the floor, in stacks that scaled one wall, like Xeroxed, stapled handouts for a class.

Except that the students in this case were al-Qaida fighters in Mali. And the manual was a detailed guide, with diagrams and photographs, on how to use a weapon that particularly concerns the United States: A surface-to-air missile capable of taking down a commercial airplane..."

30 posted on 07/24/2014 5:43:53 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: freedumb2003

I fly frequently, as well. Let’s pray for each other!


31 posted on 07/24/2014 5:44:54 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: soycd

Im leaning towards climate change and the fracking,,
but really, who cares?


32 posted on 07/24/2014 5:45:20 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: BlackVeil

Terrorists worldwide now know they can drop a plane from the sky and get the global community to block all Israeli air travel. This has only started.


33 posted on 07/24/2014 5:46:15 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: plain talk

Agreed that they are terrorists. But the hassles of flying (TSA, etc.) are ineffective and intrusive - that’s what Bush put in place (along with more NSA snooping, etc.) Bush was ok in many respects but he blew it with the TSA.


34 posted on 07/24/2014 5:47:07 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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To: RetiredArmy

To put things in perspective, at least 116 Americans will die in Automobile accidents before the end of the weekend.

I suspect that you have not given up driving on the highway.


35 posted on 07/24/2014 5:50:08 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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The missing flight en route from Burkina Faso to Algiers has crashed, an Algerian aviation official has told the Reuters news agency.


36 posted on 07/24/2014 5:56:41 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: BlackVeil

Either Islam is involved, or there are a good number of pilots, crew, and passengers going Galt.


37 posted on 07/24/2014 5:59:02 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: NewHampshireDuo
"The muzzies may have provided the rationale but it's the fault of Bush"


38 posted on 07/24/2014 5:59:51 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Obama's Storm of Illegal immigrants, aka, new democRat voters and his 2016 FDR 3rd term attempt!)
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To: pops88

Seems hubby was right after all.

“The disappeared Air Algerie flight AH5017 has crashed in Niger after flying through violent storms, it has been confirmed.”

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/breaking-air-algerie-flight-ah5017-crashes-niger-due-bad-weather-1458125


39 posted on 07/24/2014 6:00:26 AM PDT by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: BlackVeil; jazusamo

The missing MANPADS of Benghazi fame have spread around the world? News is saying a shoulder-fired “probably” doesn’t have the necessary altitude to hit commercial aircraft, but that is not the same as saying that they definitely do not under any circumstances have that capability. There is always the issue of a plane adjusting its altitude for turbulence, for approach, for other reasons that I don’t know about since I’m not an aviator.

A knowledgeable enemy could assess those reasons and attempt to be in the right place at the right time.


40 posted on 07/24/2014 6:10:23 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Good questions XZINS. The reckless evil of backing the “militants” in Libya has already cost many lives, and it may also be taking down airplanes.

Would our govts tell us the truth about this?


41 posted on 07/24/2014 6:13:12 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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To: NewHampshireDuo

OK. Agreed. TSA sucks.


42 posted on 07/24/2014 6:19:55 AM PDT by plain talk
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An official with the Mali prime minister’s office has told the AFP news agency that contact with the plane was lost over the north of the country. The region was seized by jihadist groups for several months in 2012 and has remained unstable, despite a French-led offensive to restore stability.

The following nationalities were on board the plane, according to the Associated Press news agency:

- France: 51
- Burkina Faso: 27
- Lebanon: 8
- Algeria: 6
- Canada: 5
- Germany: 4
- Luxembourg: 2
- Switzerland: 1
- Belgium: 1
- Egypt: 1
- Ukraine: 1
- Nigeria: 1
- Cameroon: 1
- Mali: 1


43 posted on 07/24/2014 6:22:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: carriage_hill
If I can't drive there, I don't need to go there

After one doesn't fly for awhile, it becomes less desirable. It isn't just the fear of terrorism, it's that planes are germ factories, I don't much like being a sardine in a can, and the hassle.

Haven't been on a plane for 15 years. Never saw Europe, so a few years ago did so by boat. I like the ocean cruising, a lot, but it isn't for everyone.

44 posted on 07/24/2014 6:26:50 AM PDT by grania
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To: BlackVeil

FOX Radio News said the pilot asked to change course because of a severe storm in the area.


45 posted on 07/24/2014 6:28:27 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: BlackVeil

They would never tell the truth about this. My read on it is that they’d rather have an ambassador murdered, run a propaganda campaign against the US people about a video, and lie to Congress than ever tell the truth about this. Looking at Lois Lerner, I’d also bet that they’ve purged all records by now, and that history will never know the truth. The only avenue to the truth that I can think of would be some smoking gun possessed by the terrorists themselves.


46 posted on 07/24/2014 6:32:33 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe; RetiredArmy

To put it into proper perspective, we would need to know how many of those traffic fatalities were caused by the victims’ own stupid choices and subtract that number.

When you’re driving, you have a certain amount of choice which you don’t have as a passenger on a plane. You can’t always avoid every accident, but if you’re the kind of person who cares about such things you stand a better chance than the person who throws their hands in the air and declares that bad things can never be avoided.

The greatest risk factor in an automobile is the driver. By being a good driver, you can reduce your risk. As a passenger in an airplane, the only choice you have is whether or not to get on the plane in the first place. Once you do, your risk is as high as everyone else on the plane. Even a passenger in an automobile has more choices than that, and can actively reduce risks, or voluntarily exit the vehicle if risk factors gradually increase.

Some accidents can’t be avoided, but if you’re going to compare the risk of flying with risk of driving carefully, you need to discount those risk factors that can be avoided.


47 posted on 07/24/2014 6:39:57 AM PDT by BykrBayb (World Lung Cancer Day {WLCD} Aug 1 https://facebook.com/events/309580722464921 ~ ├×)
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To: carriage_hill

TWA wasn’t shot down. It crashed. Stop the conspiracy theories please.


48 posted on 07/24/2014 6:46:12 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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To: Rennes Templar
If the Islam terrorists get these missile systems, they could have a heyday.

I'm sure some of our border 'refugees 'are bringing over the parts to assemble missile launchers as we speak. Knock a few airliners out of the sky over the United States and the crippling effect will make 9/11 look like a pipe bomb.

49 posted on 07/24/2014 6:48:30 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Spktyr

So has America, not to mention China


50 posted on 07/24/2014 6:50:15 AM PDT by bill1952 (taxes don't hurt the rich, they keep YOU from becoming rich.)
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