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Obama administration: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military targets
Fox News ^ | July 24, 2014 | Justin Fishel/AP

Posted on 07/24/2014 1:24:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Obama administration officials said Thursday that Russia is firing artillery from its own territory into Ukraine to hit Ukrainian military sites, pointing to escalating Russian involvement in the deadly conflict.

“This clearly is a military escalation,” Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren said, adding there is no question that Russian military—as opposed to Russia-backed separatists—are firing the shots.

State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf first made the accusation during a press briefing earlier Thursday. She also claimed Moscow is boosting its military shipments to pro-Russian separatists. …

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: eussr; harf; marieharf; mh17; obama; putin; russia; stevewarren; ukraine
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1 posted on 07/24/2014 1:24:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Captain obvious alert!


2 posted on 07/24/2014 1:25:23 PM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: Olog-hai

No problem... Obama will just send more MRE’s to stop the Russians.


3 posted on 07/24/2014 1:27:52 PM PDT by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Olog-hai

Obama administration: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military targets , we told Vlad it’s OK we are only worried about Hamas


4 posted on 07/24/2014 1:27:57 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Olog-hai

Russia has started WWIII.


5 posted on 07/24/2014 1:29:38 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Olog-hai

At this point, I don’t see why Russia doesn’t all out invade Ukraine. They’ve got nothing to fear.


6 posted on 07/24/2014 1:31:28 PM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: Olog-hai
It's not anything serious though -- Hussein is yucking it up while he cuts the line at Canter's Deli in Westwood.


credit: CBS

7 posted on 07/24/2014 1:31:53 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Olog-hai

Russia has been involved from the beginning. Only a fool thinks the “rebels” are not answering to Moscow while led and directed by Russians soldiers.


8 posted on 07/24/2014 1:32:34 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Doc91678

Obama might send a cargo container full of old uniforms for the Ukrainians


9 posted on 07/24/2014 1:33:22 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Olog-hai

I have a friend who says that Ukraine has been firing on civilians in Eastern Ukraine for a while, and posted an article:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ukraine-accused-targeting-civilians-east-24693072
and no one says a word about it. Does ANYONE have any real unbiased info on what’s going on? :-/


10 posted on 07/24/2014 1:33:39 PM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (Iibera nos a malo (Obama, aka: malum vir per puteulanus labiae))
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To: Olog-hai

Dont worry Putin, Obama did promise he would be flexible with you, he will just send you more weapons, just like he is doing with Hamas


11 posted on 07/24/2014 1:36:04 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: BenLurkin

Obama trying to be nice nice with the Jews..meanwhile he’s thinking “Stupid Jews, they think I like them, but I am sending Hamas money for rockets”


12 posted on 07/24/2014 1:37:02 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Logical me

Americans are too busy worshipping celebrities to care


13 posted on 07/24/2014 1:37:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Logical me

Hamas has started WWIII. Russia, the US and Europe are all dead meat.

The real enemy has infiltrated all of those mentioned above.

None of the idiot countries mentioned above has done a thing to protect themselves. They all opened the door to the enemy.

None of them, including Islam is going to win. That is a good thing.


14 posted on 07/24/2014 1:41:54 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Olog-hai
Barack Obama, Exalted President Of The Universe, Issued The Following Statement:


15 posted on 07/24/2014 1:42:16 PM PDT by Iron Munro (IRONY)
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To: GOP_Thug_Mom
Does ANYONE have any real unbiased info on what’s going on?

After several weeks of dedicated perusal, I would have to say... NO.

16 posted on 07/24/2014 2:02:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: GOP_Thug_Mom

Ukraine has stepped up the pace of its military activity since the new government took over and auffered initial reverses.

Their recent success is probably linked to outside mercenaries of their own to fight the Russian backed forces in the field.


17 posted on 07/24/2014 2:06:30 PM PDT by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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To: UCANSEE2

I don’t want to compromise zero’s “sources and methods of intelligence collection,” but I saw this on reddit last night. Info is based on post by Russian soldier to his “FB” page, which included location of referenced artillery inside Russia.


18 posted on 07/24/2014 2:13:00 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: Olog-hai
State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf first made the accusation during a press briefing earlier Thursday.

Yeah...OK...so there's been, like, this firing...and it's like, coming from Russia...so we think it's Russia 'n stuff. Fer sure.

19 posted on 07/24/2014 2:17:17 PM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: edpc

Before she became a “State Department spokeswoman”, she probably worked at The Gap.


20 posted on 07/24/2014 2:24:49 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: tcrlaf

ping —


21 posted on 07/24/2014 2:26:28 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: edpc

Total hipster look.


22 posted on 07/24/2014 2:29:34 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: GOP_Thug_Mom

So what — it’s a combat zone — a war zone.

Atleast that’s what the Thugs of Donetsk and their supporters here have claimed for days as the Thugs denied the Dutch and Malaysians access to the shootdown site to collect the bodies of the innocents that the Thugs shot out of the sky.

Where was your concern then???


23 posted on 07/24/2014 2:37:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: edpc

How do these snarky kid’s get these positions?


24 posted on 07/24/2014 2:46:56 PM PDT by stillfree? (Rome is Burning)
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To: Uncle Chip

but...but...but....all the Russians on FR ASSURED us that Russia has nothing to do with any of this?

They’re saints!!

How could this be?


25 posted on 07/24/2014 2:55:25 PM PDT by KOZ.
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To: Uncle Chip

My comment from the other thread on the same subject:

They haven’t released anything to prove it, like sat photos, so this is likely based on a single video floating around on the internet, by someone claiming to be a Russian Soldier, firing artillery that they also claim is going into Ukraine.

If the claim is based on this video that was floating around on Twitter yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QCCSQCbSi0
Note that there are no leaves on the trees, and the grass is brown. In mid-summer?

As far as the claim that they intend to give the Rebels “Heavier Rocket Launchers”, I’d say it is likely, since there are numerous videos of Kiev using the heavy “Smerch” launchers against the rebels.

There was even a claim last week that Kiev had launched a Surface-to-surface “Scarab-B” from Kramatorsk into the refinery at Lyshyansk (sp??), but that didn’t go anywhere.

There is supposedly another vid floating around with the same claim that I saw yesterday.


26 posted on 07/24/2014 3:11:25 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Olog-hai

They’ve been shelling Ukraine for a couple of weeks now, since Zelenopillia when “officially” 19 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed. According to the soldiers who were there, this number is very much understated.

They also shot down whole lot of Russian reconnaissance UAVs.


27 posted on 07/24/2014 3:13:25 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Olog-hai

Putin had better watch his step, or else Obama will become deepy concerned.


28 posted on 07/24/2014 3:15:10 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: edpc
All I can think of is

I'll get you, and your little dog too!!

29 posted on 07/24/2014 3:19:15 PM PDT by McGruff (I'd rather protect our border than Ukraine's.)
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To: tcrlaf

So you are saying that Col Warren would make a statement like this based on Twitter without having other evidence:

The Russian military fired artillery rounds into eastern Ukraine on Thursday, a “clear escalation” of hostilities there, Army Col. Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman, said.

Russia has about 12,000 troops on the border with Ukraine, Warren said. Russian tanks, artillery and rocket launchers have crossed into Ukraine to support separatists there.

“This is a clear escalation,” Warren said.

The Russians have conducted artillery attacks on Ukraine military targets for the last several days, Warren said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/07/24/russian-artillery-fired-eastern-ukraine/13108615/


30 posted on 07/24/2014 3:21:52 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Olog-hai.


31 posted on 07/24/2014 3:27:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Uncle Chip

The “Evidence” appears at this point to be some kid’s video on Facebook. I kid you not.

And it was just three days ago that the State Department spokeperson was saying that “much of what they know comes from Social Media”

Really?

And after everything Obama has done, we are just supposed to accept this stuff at face value now, on this one subject alone?


32 posted on 07/24/2014 3:29:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Olog-hai

Obuttboy certainly won't turn his back on this situation.

33 posted on 07/24/2014 3:34:36 PM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: ryan71
At this point, I don’t see why Russia doesn’t all out invade Ukraine. They’ve got nothing to fear.

Yep. They might as well do it now before we get a real leader in the White House. It's not like Europe will do anything. They need Russia's oil and gas too much to take any action beyond expressing their displeasure.

By the time November '16 rolls around, Russia's army will be firmly entrenched in Ukrainian soil among a largely supportive populace, their flag will fly over the Donbas and we'll be able to do nothing more than shrug our shoulders regardless of who we elect.

At least commercial airliners won't be getting shot out of the sky.

34 posted on 07/24/2014 3:35:16 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: BenLurkin

I hope I’m never in a restaurant when ANY politician tries to cut in line. I will say “You’re not cutting in front of me and block his way.” Then I’ll go to jail.

It’s time the people in this country stop treating politicians like royalty.


35 posted on 07/24/2014 3:39:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: tcrlaf; Uncle Chip
The “Evidence” appears at this point to be some kid’s video on Facebook. I kid you not.

You are a pathological liar, so I am quite sure you already saw my thread on this topic (it's on the frontpage bar), and that is where you are pulling your emergency defense of Putin stuff from, but without the honesty to admit where you got your idea from. There is no indication that this is where Obama got his information, but if it is, that is indeed pretty sad. Also, Interpreter Magazine has proven that Russia has been doing this for awhile (previously, the Russkies have been shooting grads). So it's weird that they only get offended about it just recently, although it's been going on for awhile. Here is the thread on the Russkie soldier posting his pictures and even geolocating them, like the retard most Putinistas are.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184290/posts

I don't see any videos though. Just photos that he took of his artillery.

The Russkies don't use facebook BTW. It is something different. And since they are so stupid, they seem to have a problem with posting up photos of their atrocities on there, like Strelkov.

36 posted on 07/24/2014 3:49:55 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf

37 posted on 07/24/2014 3:54:37 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Olog-hai; All
If it weren't for MH17, the Ukraine headline of the week would be the fact that my team at The Interpreter actually proved that Russia was shelling Ukraine with GRAD rockets. The Buks that shot down MH17 either came from Russia or would have needed a highly trained team of specialists (with matching launch key-cards), a crew that could have been trained only in the Russian military. Wednesday, separatists shot down two more Ukrainian military jets, so there are plenty more Russian anti-aircraft missiles still in rebel hands.

The veil has been dropped. Russia is driving this conflict, feeding the flames by providing the rebels with tanks, anti-aircraft missiles, fighters, and perhaps most importantly, cover in the international community.

This crisis exists because Russia wants it to exist. It's time for the international community to realize that Putin is not a reliable partner in solving it.

https://news.vice.com/article/its-time-to-assign-blame-for-everything-happening-in-ukraine

38 posted on 07/24/2014 4:00:44 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Olog-hai

They are already unearthing mass graves of the murdered in areas taken back from the rebels.

Putin is trying to completely conquer Ukraine by stealth to minimize economic retaliation from the west but the whole world is seeing what he and the Russian military and his proxy military of terrorists is doing.

When he can no longer deny and the world mounts against him, he may do a full on invasion of Ukraine, it is his best opportunity with the quisling in the WH, who may be in league with the Russians all along.


39 posted on 07/24/2014 4:01:08 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: stillfree?

Chilruns of rich donors and such.


40 posted on 07/24/2014 4:01:19 PM PDT by dforest
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To: free_life
But Putin underestimates the Ukrainians themselves. Obozo is a weakling, but the Ukrainians were even charging armed members of the Russkie-puppet regime UNARMED during the great fight in the Maidan.

The Ukrainians are not like his usual victims who cower and don't fight back.

41 posted on 07/24/2014 4:11:54 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“I don’t see any videos though. Just photos that he took of his artillery.”

There is a video out there in the ether, as well.

“The Russkies don’t use facebook BTW”

VK/Facebook...

One and the same thing...


42 posted on 07/24/2014 4:12:53 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Your child-like insults don’t make you look ant=y less biased...


43 posted on 07/24/2014 4:14:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Olog-hai

If Putin wants to take over the Ukraine by the end of this year with no opposition from the West, all he has to do is time Russia’s rocket attacks to coincide with Obama’s fund-raising speeches around the country, which will continue until the November elections.

Putin can be confident that Obama will not cut his fundraising visits short to return to the White House in order to deal with missiles exploding on Ukrainian cities. For Obama to do so would look so un-cool, which, in Obama’s adolescent mind, is the worst possible thing that can happen.

During Obama’s long vacation at Martha’s Vineyard next month, the Russians can time their attacks to coincide with the start of Obama’s golf games. Obama would never stop a golf outing for any reason, probably even including a terrorist attack on an American city. It would destroy his all-important façade of calmness, which must be preserved at any cost.


44 posted on 07/24/2014 4:15:23 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: tcrlaf
VK/Facebook... One and the same thing...

VK is not facebook. It is an entirely different company, the Russkie ripoff version.

45 posted on 07/24/2014 4:15:35 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf
Your child-like insults don’t make you look ant=y less biased...

Careful, the more frenzied you get, the more typos there are.

46 posted on 07/24/2014 4:16:14 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Logical me

The Russkies will get away with it. The Euroweenies are pathetically weak, and Obama isn’t going to do anything serious. We must pray for the Ukrainians. If they have God on their side, it doesn’t matter how much of an army Russia throws at them.


47 posted on 07/24/2014 4:21:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The Ukrainians have fought valiantly against the Russians and the Kremlin puppet Presidency. And there will be a long and costly guerilla war if Putin does a fully on invasion, but the Ukrainian military equipment would not last long in regular warfare against a full on Russian invasion.


48 posted on 07/24/2014 4:30:45 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: edpc

I cannot stand her or the other State Dept. bimbette. All the leftists do is mock their nemesis, Sarah Palin. The actual losers are all in this evil administration.


49 posted on 07/24/2014 4:34:19 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: BIV
Strelkov or Ivanovitch ?

I saw the post the day the shooting occurred.


50 posted on 07/24/2014 5:34:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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