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New solution to border crisis: Send U.S. officials to Honduras to give kids refugee status?
Hot Air ^ | July 24, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 07/24/2014 8:36:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A foolproof plan to ease pressure on the border that’s currently being considered by the White House. Why force kids to make a dangerous trip through Mexico only to end up as illegal immigrants in the United States when we could go to them, grant them legal status, and send them north to America ourselves? It’s so crazy it just. might. work.

Minor footnote: Federal law doesn’t allow refugee status to be granted for fear of street gangs, only for fear of racial/religious/political persecution, but oh well. Legal details never stopped Obama before.

If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises…

The proposal, prepared by several federal agencies, says the pilot program under consideration would cost up to $47 million over two years, assuming 5,000 applied and about 1,750 people were accepted. If successful, it would be adopted in Guatemala and El Salvador as well…

Children would be interviewed by American immigration employees trained to deal with minors, and a resettlement center would be set up in the Honduran capital, Tegucigalpa, with assistance from international organizations like the International Organization for Migration…

[T]he draft proposal suggested that 35 to 50 percent of the applicants in Honduras could be considered for relief, a figure the White House said was inflated. The early draft, the White House said, was the most generous and least likely of the options the administration is considering. How many people are accepted is critical, because refugees qualify for public assistance upon arrival in the United States.

The theory, I guess, is that illegal immigration will be reduced if you move the “permiso” to the migrants’ own country. Convince them that they have a chance of being given safe passage to the U.S. and they’ll stay put and take their chances with the refugee system. Or will they? How many times would the average parent and child accept being either wait-listed or denied refugee status before they said “screw it” and went north to the U.S. anyway? Twice, maybe? Nearly everyone who applies and is rejected will immigrate illegally to the U.S., I assume. The demand is there, there’s a supply of coyotes willing to bring them north — QED. Meanwhile, once word gets out that the Americans are willing to take some kids from Honduras on humanitarian grounds, other would-be illegals will naturally assume that the feds will be more lenient with them if they decide to come north and enter the U.S. without a “permiso.” Remember, one of the apparent causes of the border crisis is a misunderstanding in Central America involving DACA: When the feds extended the program in June of this year for DREAMers who were already here and already enrolled in the program, some migrants apparently took that to mean that newly arrived DREAMers would also be allowed to enroll. There’s lots of misinformation out there about U.S. immigration law, much of it no doubt spread by traffickers who want to drum up business. If this plan is adopted, we’re essentially going to be advertising in Honduras that, yes, permisos are now available right in your own backyard. How’s that likely to work out in a country that poorly understands our law and that’s already a hotbed of illegal immigration?

The next step, logically, should be to expand this policy to places like Iraq and Syria where there really are lots of refugees as that term is traditionally understood, but since Iraqis and Syrians lack the sort of massive political constituency in the U.S. that Latino voters represent for Central Americans, I assume they’ll be SOL. Or do I assume too much? The Honduras proposal is really the logical endgame of hard-left support for amnesty: If you want to start absorbing foreign populations, it’s silly and even mean to force them to make difficult journeys north and then play hide and seek with the Border Patrol to earn their prize. Why not go to where they are and start handing out visas and bus tickets? If Obama tries this idea, the pressure on him to expand the number of visas granted annually from 1,750 to many times that number will be instant and intense, precisely because this is a game of mass population absorption, not token gestures to a handful of the local citizens. In fact, this may even be the beginning of a new Orwellian transformation in the terminology used for this subject. First it was “aliens,” then it became “illegal immigrants,” then it became “undocumented immigrants” (or “undocumented Americans” for true Newspeak devotees), and maybe now we’ll see a concerted movement to dub all illegals “refugees,” even if they don’t qualify by law. It’s a short progressive leap from handing out asylum to people fleeing general street violence to fleeing “economic violence” or whatever. Why not them too? Why not everyone?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; honduras; immigration; obama
REALLY?!
1 posted on 07/24/2014 8:36:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Build and man the Fence.

Better yet, set up a 1 mile free fire zone south of the border in Mexico.

2 posted on 07/24/2014 8:40:13 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is fine with me if they all have to move in with Obama and Mooch - or to Martha’s Vineyard or the upper East side.....or the Hamptons (which didn’t even want the Kardashians).

Otherwise it’s crap.


3 posted on 07/24/2014 8:40:30 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The latest estimate of the population of the globe is about 7 billion people, I think. That probably means there are approx. 3.5 to 4 billion kids on the globe. All these kids, according to Nancy Pelosi, should be welcome in the U.S. Given that, they’ll probably all come, then because of chain migration, their parents and all relatives will also come.

Once it’s clear, those of us with a brain can move to South America where the weather is beautiful and start a new country.


4 posted on 07/24/2014 8:42:17 PM PDT by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Liz; SunkenCiv

U.S. Considering Refugee Status For Hondurans
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184691/posts

See post 27 - list of links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184691/posts?page=27#27


5 posted on 07/24/2014 8:48:54 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it should be an even trade.

We’ll send them 100,000 US officials.


6 posted on 07/24/2014 8:55:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Impeach his a$$, and ever Democrat that slithers the halls of government.


7 posted on 07/24/2014 8:55:29 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kidnapping on a massive and international scale.


8 posted on 07/24/2014 8:55:57 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: faithhopecharity

human trafficking


9 posted on 07/24/2014 8:57:10 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Rembrandt

I call dibbs on Equador.


10 posted on 07/24/2014 8:57:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
.... The powers that be know that this preplanned event that is happening now is merely a trickle of people marching across the border compared to the virtual tsunami that is coming.

.... If there is anybody left in this government with two actual and functional braincells left in their collective brains to put together .... they would create an international event that would put stress upon both Mexico and Honduras by literally closing the southern border to ALL Immigrants until this thing is sorted out.

.... The financial strain on the southern countries would create an immediate strain on their economies and resources that they would move quickly (Unlike the American elitist government) and immediately stem the flow of the dreamers that are coming to facilitate a Cloward/Pivenesque collapse of the American system and economy. This would also serve to divert the worlds attention towards the southern countries handling of this event and create the illusion that the US is actually able to control it's own southern borders.

.... Sadly .... i know that this scenario is only wishful thinking.

11 posted on 07/24/2014 9:02:32 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is pure insanity. They aren’t refugees. This will only increase the flow. Enough already.


12 posted on 07/24/2014 9:03:19 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
assuming 5,000 applied and about 1,750 people were accepted.

Gosh, I wonder what the other 3250 will do?

13 posted on 07/24/2014 9:03:21 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they really want to help people being persecuted, how about the Christians in the Mideast, the ones whose lives are actually in danger RIGHT NOW! The ones who are being tortured and killed because of religious persecution.

There are Christian children suffering more than Hondurans.


14 posted on 07/24/2014 9:07:55 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Send them to Costa Rica or Puerto Rico. At least they share similar languages.


15 posted on 07/24/2014 9:09:31 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell
So do Venezuela, Cuba, Guyana, Mexico and the Dominican Republic.
16 posted on 07/24/2014 9:12:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Whenifhow.


17 posted on 07/24/2014 9:36:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Living in the US today is something like living in the Soviet Union under Brezhnev. Brezhnev pretty much did whatever he wanted to do. No one went to a gulag, but then again no one could stop what the central leadership had decided to do.

Crazy. Even JFK would be appalled.


18 posted on 07/24/2014 9:42:01 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guyana is english speaking.


19 posted on 07/24/2014 10:08:24 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why not go to Eastern Ukraine and interview kids there. they are in real danger. How about Christians in Iraq, Syria, and Africa? These people are nuts.


20 posted on 07/24/2014 10:21:24 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Kenyan’s regime now wants to go down and pick up the laziest of the lazy and bring them back here. This is a criminal action against the people of the United States of America. This has got to stop!!! The commie libs in the “media” are always telling us how dangerous it is in this country for American kids. If this is true, the commie ‘RATS are going to Central America to bring these poor “children” back here to face certain death in the “United” States!!! It’s time to start seeing some perp walks of these government maggots participating in this human trafficking scheme.


21 posted on 07/24/2014 10:50:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Treason


22 posted on 07/24/2014 11:44:45 PM PDT by Katarina
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

what did I say a few days ago? watch for an uptick in embassy staff to process visa applications as they channel this thru the embassies?

these guys are so predictable.


23 posted on 07/24/2014 11:48:44 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Any place that we feel morally obligated to subsume their political, economic and criminal refugees we should fee equally obligated to move right on in and fix their problem.


24 posted on 07/25/2014 3:17:23 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be cheaper and more effective just to make Honduras our 51st state.


25 posted on 07/25/2014 11:39:15 AM PDT by Will we know the moment (e are no longer a republi)
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To: Will we know the moment

“Solution”?

How does that “solve” anything?


26 posted on 07/25/2014 11:40:56 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Owe-bama is thinking backward here.

We should ground him, and use AF1 for around-the-clock flights carrying full loads of them back to central America.

27 posted on 07/25/2014 9:48:21 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: GeronL

Sorry, I forgot the <sarc tag. I just assumed that everyone would get it.


28 posted on 07/26/2014 8:13:35 AM PDT by Will we know the moment (e are no longer a republi)
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