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September in July: Big cold front to bring stellar weather next week
WaPo ^ | 24JUL2014 | Jason Samenow

Posted on 07/24/2014 9:05:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine

Following in the footsteps of the record-setting cool air mass in mid-July, a second blast of air with polar origins will invade the eastern U.S. to close July. Like the original, the sequel will be glorious.

This taste of September may not be quite as strong mid-July’s version, but should produce temperatures 10-20 degrees below normal across a large swath of the eastern U.S. by early Tuesday.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cool; globalcooling; july; weather

1 posted on 07/24/2014 9:05:23 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine
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To: Jack Hydrazine

i need some heat to ripen my tomatoes. where’s algore and his pile of hot air?


2 posted on 07/24/2014 9:09:51 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It’s been damned nice all last week and again most of this week after a misearable hot and humid day or two here in flyover country. Highs in the upper 70s, clear sunny and low humidity. Bling on the grobal walming!


3 posted on 07/24/2014 9:16:16 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Joe Bastardi had been right on target with his long range forcasts.


4 posted on 07/24/2014 9:18:46 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Jack Hydrazine

5 posted on 07/24/2014 9:18:49 PM PDT by mylife
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To: kvanbrunt2

i need some heat to ripen my tomatoes. where’s algore and his pile of hot air?

The Profit Algore is avoiding the subject while he counts his money.


6 posted on 07/24/2014 9:18:53 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: laplata

You nailed it.
The guy is just a cheap charlatan and huckster.


7 posted on 07/24/2014 9:20:37 PM PDT by mylife
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To: kvanbrunt2

I was wondering what effect this would have on crops.


8 posted on 07/24/2014 9:20:48 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: mylife

Yep.


9 posted on 07/24/2014 9:24:06 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: mylife
The guy is just a cheap charlatan and huckster.

Actually, Al is an *exceptional* charlatan and huckster. Wealthiest snake oil salesman the world has ever seen.

10 posted on 07/24/2014 9:26:38 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel

Agreed.
One of the best I have seen until Obama.


11 posted on 07/24/2014 9:28:04 PM PDT by mylife
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To: Charles Martel

Actually, Al is an *exceptional* charlatan and huckster. Wealthiest snake oil salesman the world has ever seen.


Is he really wealthier than the Clintons?


12 posted on 07/24/2014 9:28:19 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Maybe next winter will be interesting, but winters between 3 and 9 years from now might be much more interesting.


13 posted on 07/24/2014 9:35:08 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" - -Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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To: familyop

You’re right. I’ve heard that we’re probably entering a mini ice age.


14 posted on 07/24/2014 9:45:08 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Dang global warming!


15 posted on 07/24/2014 9:59:00 PM PDT by blondee123 (DICTATORSHIP HAS ARRIVED! Nov. 6, 2012)
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To: kvanbrunt2

If you are genuinely worried for your tomatoes, a cold frame will help. Clear plastic over a wood framework placed over the plant will keep the heat in. I do this every fall.


16 posted on 07/24/2014 10:19:03 PM PDT by Don W (To laugh, perhaps to dream...)
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To: laplata

It’s a possibility. Our European ancestors survived the greater extended minimum in early America, so we should be able to stand it.


17 posted on 07/24/2014 10:21:48 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" - -Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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To: kvanbrunt2

I would gladly trade you some heat for your tomatoes for some of that cool air. The thermometer on my patio read 121 yesterday, and 118 today.


18 posted on 07/24/2014 10:35:19 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It was a 102 here today.


19 posted on 07/24/2014 11:00:19 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Global Warming.


20 posted on 07/25/2014 2:24:38 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: laplata

Start a forest fire! I need cooler weather so my tomato plants can set on more fruit.

Tomatoes do not need heat to ripen. I grow them in the winter in my greenhouse that I heat to 55F.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 3:10:57 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Jack Hydrazine

In earlier, more pleasant times, this would be called an Indian Summer.

Now, no things Indian are to be remembered, let alone celibrated.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 3:29:53 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
I was wondering what effect this would have on crops.

Crops? What crops? All I see is ice...
23 posted on 07/25/2014 3:40:58 AM PDT by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: laplata

Beside$ the hundred$ of million$ he’s made off hi$ a$$orted $cam$, he inherited hundred$ of million$ more from his father’$ e$tate.


24 posted on 07/25/2014 3:48:51 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and in politic)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Jeepers!

With these cold swings, I am getting the idea that we’all here in the CONUS, are going to have a winter to deal with, whether you live in leftist Portland, OR (BTDT), or wacky Baton Rouge!


25 posted on 07/25/2014 4:04:04 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: mylife

“The guy is just a cheap charlatan and huckster.”

Most of us knew that in 2000. But you gotta add at least one other descriptive phrase to that...’EVIL’


26 posted on 07/25/2014 4:16:11 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: bigbob

“I need some heat to ripen my tomatoes. where’s algore and his pile of hot air?”.....

You forgot the “B.S.” to go with the hot air. Don’t forget you will still need some rain.


27 posted on 07/25/2014 4:23:01 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: laplata

since both keep their real wealth off shore, the calculation can’t be made with accuracy


28 posted on 07/25/2014 4:25:51 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: tdscpa
I need cooler weather so my tomato plants can set on more fruit.

It's been cooler than usual in Red England...upper 40's right at the moment. However...tomato plants are LOADED with blossoms and fruit...barring a tornado or hurricane; best crop in years.

29 posted on 07/25/2014 4:28:33 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: familyop

It wouldn’t be the weather but the onslaught of progressives demanding we sacrifice for an instant solution that we’d need to survive.


30 posted on 07/25/2014 4:33:38 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

It could be racist!


31 posted on 07/25/2014 4:53:30 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: familyop
Maybe next winter will be interesting, but winters between 3 and 9 years from now might be much more interesting.

As in the old Chinese curse "may you live in interesting times".

Warmth is good. Warm oceans experience more evaporation, leading to more moisture in the air and more rainfall. Warmer weather mean that areas of Canada and Siberia become warm enough to grow crops in.

Colder weather means drought and famine, worldwide.

32 posted on 07/25/2014 6:35:32 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: jughandle
"It wouldn’t be the weather but the onslaught of progressives demanding we sacrifice for an instant solution that we’d need to survive."

That's very true. And they'd be even more desperate with their debt/revenues, and consequently, political influence declining as a result of the weather fluctuations and their mistakes in answering the weather problems.


33 posted on 07/25/2014 11:14:57 AM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" - -Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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To: PapaBear3625

That’s an interesting and true point. When evaporation slows, condensation is less frequent and heavy—less rain and snow.


34 posted on 07/25/2014 11:17:55 AM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" - -Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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To: c-b 1

let’s see what ALGORE can come up with./s you must be in the desert. I was in high desert Redding, CA last year. at about 100 degrees the air would take your breath away. and you could keep an eye out for Mt shasta to cool you off.


35 posted on 07/26/2014 1:23:51 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Don W

yes i have a pvc house built over the plants that are over 6 ft high. I’m going to cover at some point next month. They are turning red now.


36 posted on 07/26/2014 1:25:06 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I know that Minnesota had lots of rain late into the spring that hurt the crops. This probably isn’t helping matters any.


37 posted on 07/26/2014 1:31:07 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Don W

i plan on doing that i’ll send pictures the plants are over 6 ft high with tomatoes at the very tops. bumper crop. could be the last days.


38 posted on 08/03/2014 9:09:25 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: tdscpa

that’s interesting my dad says that. cus i was hoping i could do indoor tomatoes in my basement. what does trigger the ripening? time? these were started indoors beginning of feb and where terrific plants in april and they hardened into icicles during the 40 degree nights.


39 posted on 08/03/2014 9:14:52 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: kvanbrunt2
Tomatoes need lots of light to even grow. Very hard to get tomatoes to grow and set fruit with artificial light. They need at least 6-8 hours/day of sunlight to produce well.

However, high temperatures (over low to mid 90s) inhibit pollination. Unfortunately for me, my summers from 2011-2013 were near or over 100F almost all summer. Near the highest temps in the country much of the time.

This year has been much better. Have had some hot, but also a few periods cool enough and long enough that most of my plants have set on some fruit. I planted them rather late, though, and grow only grow heirloom varieties that take 75-90 days to ripen fruit. Should have my first ripe ones in a couple of weeks.

I am getting some small tomatoes from plants I started early in containers in my greenhouse.

40 posted on 08/04/2014 12:56:32 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: tdscpa

thank you for all of that info maybe that is why i have goobs of tomatoes. it’s been a cool summer here in philly. so they will still ripen without the heat? or should i start to cover them with plastic at night? I’ve got 2 1000 watters for the basement. i started these all first week in feb. i trim them so that they get branches early on. for most it worked great. you get multiple flowering tops (up to 4) per plant and they just create fruit. i have small tomatoes at over 6 feet high on the plants in my back yard. i have mostly heirlooms but the mortgage lifters i don’t like. the big reds are better not as big but much sweeter. i had a 1 lb 10 oz mortgage lifter.


41 posted on 08/14/2014 4:55:53 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: kvanbrunt2

Like I posted earlier, I doubt that you can produce a decent tomato crop with artificial light, though I have never tried it.

Since you have a back yard, why don’t you move your inside tomatoes outside? (If you do, you should gradually introduce them to sunlight. They will die if you suddenly move them from artificial light to full day direct sunlight.)

Research “hardening off”. You should get better tomato production and save 2,000 watts/hr. of electricity for however many hours you light them.


42 posted on 08/16/2014 12:11:21 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: kvanbrunt2

i use the lites for starting in jan/feb. we had some 40 inches of snow this last year so my sitting in the basement with 2 1000 watt bulbs and watching my tomatoes grow was ...... heaven. also i did this experiment by cutting the tops off them when very small to produce branches that became 3-4 plants from 1 root stock. i liked the result.


43 posted on 08/16/2014 10:18:12 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: tdscpa

yes they are in the yard about 7 feet high inside netting to keep the varmints out. the lights are for starting the seeds in february. The mortgage lifters are easily one pound each with one about 1 lb 10 oz. the plants where huge when i set them outside for hardening and them back inside because it got too cold.


44 posted on 08/17/2014 6:33:33 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Don W

i plan om doing that. i have plastic pipe frame over them now with 1 inch nylon netting to keep birds and squirrels out.


45 posted on 08/17/2014 6:37:27 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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