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Who Is Most To Blame For Climate Change?
NPR ^ | July 24, 2014 | by BARBARA J. KING

Posted on 07/25/2014 7:29:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Here in southeastern Virginia, our biggest city, Norfolk, is saddled with an unwanted claim to fame. Norfolk is the place "where normal tides have risen 1.5 feet over the past century and the sea is rising faster than anywhere else on the East Coast."

NPR notes that the Norfolk area "is particularly vulnerable because the land is sinking as sea levels are rising."

As we frequently discuss here at 13.7, human-caused (anthropogenic) climate change is a global problem.

Surprisingly, at least to me, the evidence points to a narrative of universal blame, instead of one in which the "big countries" (as islanders call the industrialized nations) are called out.

After considering and dismissing a number of other explanations, Rudiak-Wanker concludes that the answer can be found in the Marshallese perspective on cultural decline, the idea that the local culture is deteriorating as people increasingly leave traditional practices behind in favor of foreign ways.

When we look hard at what's happening for each of us locally in terms of altered weather patterns or coastlines or patterns of flora and fauna, and share that information, the global picture starts to come together. The idea is not to play the blame game, but rather to focus on how various cultures and individuals process the frightening realities of a climate-change-suffused future, and to determine what can be done to alter the course we are on.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; hoax; marxism; socialism
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

..another chance to vent hatred of Capitalism and the West...

Not exactly. It’s a shakedown for more dirty capitalist money.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 7:44:01 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
where normal tides have risen 1.5 feet over the past century and the sea is rising faster than anywhere else on the East Coast."

I'll bet the only scientific evidence to support that assertion is political science evidence.

22 posted on 07/25/2014 7:45:58 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Westbrook

I need to tell you that water is the only compound found in nature, that expands as it freezes.


23 posted on 07/25/2014 7:46:14 AM PDT by Banjoguy (The U.S. government is now a criminal enterprise, at war with the population.)
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To: TexasCajun
Don't forget also:


24 posted on 07/25/2014 7:47:09 AM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough.)
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To: Da Coyote

National Panhandler Radio.


25 posted on 07/25/2014 7:48:06 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're the bug.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The sun is most responsible. Wonder if they can find a way to tax it out of sunspots or not.


26 posted on 07/25/2014 7:48:59 AM PDT by formosa
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

1-Lying Media
2-Lying Politicians
3-Lying Populatin Control crowd
4-Lying pretend “scientists”
5-Lying anti-Engergy crowd
6-Lying EPA
7-Corporate Prostitutes willing to pretend, in order to profit from large gov’t contracts.


27 posted on 07/25/2014 7:49:02 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Sun.


28 posted on 07/25/2014 7:49:35 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: G Larry
First didn't he say that the land around Norfolk was sinking? Could that be the cause?
So have tide levels on the East coast all risen by 1.5 feet? If not, useful waste of ink.
29 posted on 07/25/2014 7:51:21 AM PDT by Kozy
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To: Banjoguy

> I need to tell you that water is the only compound found in
> nature, that expands as it freezes.

Exactly. And that’s why it displaces the same amount of water, whether frozen or liquid.

Attributing the rising sea levels to melting ice is either ignorant or disingenuous.


30 posted on 07/25/2014 7:51:32 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“NPR notes that the Norfolk area “is particularly vulnerable because the land is sinking as sea levels are rising.”

I put my money on the land sinking (washing away) verses sea level rising.


31 posted on 07/25/2014 7:52:07 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Westbrook

Along those lines. The evaporation rate rises as temperature rises. So If the ice caps were melting and the temperature is going up, then would not the rise in the evaporation rate compensate for the “extra” water? As we know ice and water do not change the level. So we should actually see water levels fall, no?


32 posted on 07/25/2014 7:53:07 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“where normal tides have risen 1.5 feet over the past century and the sea is rising faster than anywhere else on the East Coast.”

That’s pretty neat that the sea can rise in one specific spot.

I’m looking into my kitchen sink and am trying to get the right side water to rise above the water on the left side to cover a larger dish. Not working though.


33 posted on 07/25/2014 7:54:48 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who’s responsible for climate change? The same folks that couldn’t get “global warming” to stick.


34 posted on 07/25/2014 7:55:20 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Just what is the real reason to disarm a law abiding citizen like me?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

G.K. Chesterton had it right when he said: “When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing—they believe in anything.”


35 posted on 07/25/2014 7:56:12 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
where normal tides have risen 1.5 feet over the past century and the sea is rising faster than anywhere else on the East Coast."

Harbor masters all over the world have been tracking tide levels for a thousand years... and they do not report any such thing.

36 posted on 07/25/2014 7:56:22 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: polymuser
Another good one.
37 posted on 07/25/2014 7:56:50 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: broken_arrow1

The steelhead are running in the Clinton River already!


38 posted on 07/25/2014 7:56:58 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: defconw

> As we know ice and water do not change the level. So we
> should actually see water levels fall, no?

An astute observation with which I concur.


39 posted on 07/25/2014 8:01:53 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Even though the catchy word was changed from GLOBAL WARMING to CLIMATE CHANGE, in every respect, at all times, these blame-humans-first types are only talking about global warming. They just can’t use the word any more because A) there’s been no warming since 1998 despite every climate model they use predicting it, and B) they’ve fudged all the old data to reduce those temperatures downward to demonstrate warmer temps now.

They say climate change, but they only mean global warming.


40 posted on 07/25/2014 8:03:00 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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