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Senator Rand Paul Introduces the FAIR Act (asset forfeiture reform)
Senator Rand Paul ^ | 24 July 14

Posted on 07/25/2014 7:44:33 AM PDT by Drew68

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Sen. Rand Paul yesterday introduced S. 2644, the FAIR (Fifth Amendment Integrity Restoration) Act, which would protect the rights of citizens and restore the Fifth Amendment's role in seizing property without due process of law. Under current law, law enforcement agencies may take property suspected of involvement in crime without ever charging, let alone convicting, the property owner. In addition, state agencies routinely use federal asset forfeiture laws; ignoring state regulations to confiscate and receive financial proceeds from forfeited property.

The FAIR Act would change federal law and protect the rights of property owners by requiring that the government prove its case with clear and convincing evidence before forfeiting seized property. State law enforcement agencies will have to abide by state law when forfeiting seized property. Finally, the legislation would remove the profit incentive for forfeiture by redirecting forfeitures assets from the Attorney General's Asset Forfeiture Fund to the Treasury's General Fund.

"The federal government has made it far too easy for government agencies to take and profit from the property of those who have not been convicted of a crime. The FAIR Act will ensure that government agencies no longer profit from taking the property of U.S. citizens without due process, while maintaining the ability of courts to order the surrender of proceeds of crime," Sen. Paul said

Click HERE for the FAIR Act legislation text.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: forfeiture; randpaul; warondrugs; wod
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To: Responsibility2nd
No conservative that I know of wants to support the dangerous and illegal drug cartels by handing back $55,000.

You're right about that. And when the government can prove that Pedro is a drug dealer, they can keep the money.

21 posted on 07/25/2014 8:49:09 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Responsibility2nd
No conservative that I know of wants to support the dangerous and illegal drug cartels by handing back $55,000.

And none that I know of want to see an innocent man stand to lose his property, or thinks that half-truths are the path to good government and good policy.

22 posted on 07/25/2014 8:53:04 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Drew68
"State law enforcement agencies will have to abide by state law when forfeiting seized property"

Which is where the majority of the problem is.

23 posted on 07/25/2014 8:56:48 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: tacticalogic
And none that I know of want to see an innocent man stand to lose his property, or thinks that half-truths are the path to good government and good policy.

You'll find on this forum people who loath Senator Paul so much that they'll twist themselves into a pretzel to oppose on principle any legislation he puts forward.

You can guarantee that if Senator Cruz was behind the FAIR Act, these same people would be all for it.

Curious, where does Senator Cruz stand on this legislation?

24 posted on 07/25/2014 9:09:48 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: ladyjane
"You want some local guy with a title or a badge deciding whose money he’s going to confiscate?"

Unfortunately, this law would only impact the Feds. Locals, where the real abuse of asset forfeiture occurs, would not be effected.

25 posted on 07/25/2014 9:12:30 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Pollster1

I am on a plane right now flying home from Washington, DC where I testified in front of the Natural Resources committee in support of HR5026, the Fish Hatchery Protection Act sponsored by my Congressman, the wonderful Dr. Paul Gosar. The bill states that only Congress has the authority to change policies and purposes of the mitigation fish hatcheries that supply billions of dollars to local economies. I am the Chairman of the Mohave County Board of Supervisors.

However, that power already lies with Congress. All they have to do is pick up the phone and tell these unelected bureaucrats from the Department of the Interior to knock it off and then follow through. But it’s always flashier to to a new bill. This is the second time I have testified in front of Congress on behalf of my County. I have come to the realization that whatever is going to change will have to be changed at the State and local level and we must commit to fight for our State sovereignty in any manner necessary. I


26 posted on 07/25/2014 9:17:55 AM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Drew68

Why do we need another law to enforce the 5th Amendment? Why can’t these pernicious seizure laws be struck down as unconstitutional?


27 posted on 07/25/2014 9:19:59 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: moehoward
Unfortunately, this law would only impact the Feds. Locals, where the real abuse of asset forfeiture occurs, would not be effected.

Here in MO, we passed a law that said asset forfeiture proceeds go to the schools. The feds worked out a scheme with some local law enforcement agencies where the state law enforcement would do the investigative work, then call in the feds to do the bust. Then the feds would seize the assets and then "share" the forfeiture proceeds with the local agency, circumventing the state law.

28 posted on 07/25/2014 9:24:58 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Drew68; tacticalogic; Responsibility2nd
You'll find on this forum people who loath Senator Paul so much that they'll twist themselves into a pretzel to oppose on principle any legislation he puts forward.

You'll also find people willing to jettison foundational legal principles like innocent until proven guilty, and also the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, if it can be argued to further the battle against the dangerous and illegal drug cartels. Oddly, they seem to think they're conservatives.

29 posted on 07/25/2014 9:30:53 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Flick Lives
Why do we need another law to enforce the 5th Amendment? Why can’t these pernicious seizure laws be struck down as unconstitutional?

We need these laws because the exact opposite has happened; SCOTUS has upheld asset forfeiture.

30 posted on 07/25/2014 9:35:40 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: ConservingFreedom

Well written; But, like the second amendment, I despair at enacting these laws, with the caveat “...and this time we MEAN IT!”

That such has become necessary is indicative of the demise of the former republic.


31 posted on 07/25/2014 9:48:36 AM PDT by patton (“Really? Have you tried chewing cloves?”)
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To: Drew68
Rand Paul is Public Enemy #1 to the banksters. And they are experts at pushing social conservative buttons to gin up false divisions in the ranks of potential opponents of their agenda. Using time-tested slogans ("I like what he is trying to do here, but I can't stand his position on _fill_in_the_blank_") they are engaging in an Internet-wide campaign to deny him the Republican nomination in 2016. It's disappointing to see single-issue SoCons doing the banksters' work on FR, too.

Paul is a long-shot anyway due to the lack of money men behind him, but the bad guys certainly feel more of a cold chill on the backs of their necks when he introduces legislation like this than they do over any phony and carefully scripted posturing by Republican Senators and Governors over border security or gay marriage or gun rights.

32 posted on 07/25/2014 10:03:14 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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To: moehoward

Like I’d trust the feds. For fun, read about all the FeeBees who were in Whitey Bulger’s pocket.


33 posted on 07/25/2014 10:07:25 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ConservingFreedom
Sadly, some folks are always more than willing to defend the police state as long as someone can tie it to the war on drugs the constitution.
34 posted on 07/25/2014 10:13:55 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: SoConPubbie
Your rant is not only off-topic, it contains lies. Senator Paul's plan would have cut off welfare to foreign aliens, both legal and illegal.

Back on-topic: Do you stand with Senator Paul and his support of the Fifth Amendment, or do you stand against the Bill of Rights and support tyranny?

35 posted on 07/25/2014 10:30:57 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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