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Hamas Prepared Attack That Would Bring Israel to Its Knees, Israeli Defense Officials Say
Algemeiner ^ | Friday, July 25, 2014 | Deborah Danan

Posted on 07/25/2014 9:00:11 AM PDT by Star Traveler

Israel’s Prime Minster Benjamin Netanyahu revealed on Thursday that Hamas was intending to attack Israel from dozens of tunnels in a coordinated simultaneous attack. At the beginning of Thursday’s special cabinet meeting the prime minister said, “These tunnels enable the enemy to open a multi-pronged offensive and carry out a massive terror attack inside Israel.”

The attack Hamas was planning, the officials say, “would have made Israel drop to its knees.” They added that even the tunnels destroyed until now takes away from Hamas a strategic asset the terror group has been working on for years.

Hamas has prepared a veritable plan for ground warfare, after a few failed terror attacks and the realization that rockets are no match for Israel’s Iron Dome defense system. Preparations for a ‘boots-on-the-ground’ war started when Hamas realized it had nothing to lose, but the organization was not prepared for the IDF to start the ground incursion so soon and hoped to have convenient exit strategies.

IDF officials warned that the drop in the daily number of rockets fired at Israel do not indicate Hamas is running out. While it is true that Hamas’s reservoir of projectiles has been significantly depleted, taking into account the number of rockets fired and the number of rockets and launchers destroyed by the IDF, the smaller barrages are seen in the military as a calculation by Hamas that the war can take a whole month and therefore it would need to retain its rocket-launching capabilities to the very last day. According to estimates, Hamas had 9000 rockets at the beginning of Operation Protective Edge. It has fired around 2000 and some 3000 were destroyed by Israel. It therefore still has some 4000 rockets in storage.

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Hamas STILL HAS 4,000 rockets!
1 posted on 07/25/2014 9:00:11 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
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2 posted on 07/25/2014 9:02:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Star Traveler

Have they figured in which orphanage, nursery, hospital or school these are stored?


3 posted on 07/25/2014 9:02:38 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Star Traveler

Hamas must be eradicated.

They are like cockroaches. Every last one must be wiped out.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 9:03:10 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Star Traveler
"It therefore still has some 4000 rockets in storage."

Most of them will be destroyed before the IDF pulls out.

5 posted on 07/25/2014 9:03:19 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Star Traveler

Other reports indicate that this was to be an attack on multiple communities in southern Israel on Rosh HaShana, one of the holiest days of the Jewish calendar, when many, if not most, of the men in those communities would be praying in the synagogue. See http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3184908/posts for more insight.

This is exactly why Israel’s operation against Hamas has gotten Netanyahu popular support of about 85%, why the government continues to widen the operation, and why there is so much disgust with Kerry and Obama’s efforts to continue to protect Hamas, which they have funded with more than $1 billion since 2009 in flagrant violation of US law.

As a reminder, it is the US that twisted Israel’s arms to let Hamas receive 600 tons of concrete from Israel’s own Nesher Cement Company, which was used to build the tunnels at a cost estimated at approximately $1.25 billion.


6 posted on 07/25/2014 9:05:54 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Diogenesis

I can see you still confuse both humanitarian aid or aid to the Palestinian Authority, which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has lobbied and urged Congress to continue supporting (because Israel doesn’t want it’s soldiers administering the PA territories).

And I see you’re also confusing the “unity pact” which is nothing but a “paper document” for foreign consumption ... with Hamas ... when it is the Palestinian Authority” and Abbas who are fully in control of Judea and Samaria.

The problem you have is that you can’t see the details and distinguish what is going on. And you confuse criminals and criminal actions of terrorists with support that the USA is giving to Palestinians, versus the terror groups.

You ignore that Prime Minister Netanyahu has no problem with humanitarian aid for Palestinian civilians and he also wants support for the Palestinian Authority to continue so Israel won’t have to administer the territories.

What neither the USA or Israel wants is any money or arms to the terrorist organization and neither one of them is doing that.

Israel and the USA are against Hamas and supplying them in Gaza!


7 posted on 07/25/2014 9:06:49 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Diogenesis

Israel singles out Qatar as key Hamas terror sponsor
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184241/posts

http://www.timesofisrael.com/as-it-battles-hamas-israel-singles-out-its-sponsor-qatar/

Gulf emirate is branded the villain behind Hamas belligerence, with PM’s former security adviser saying it funds tunnel diggers and rocket launchers.

President Shimon Peres accused Qatar on Wednesday of becoming “the world’s largest funder of terror” due to its financial support for Hamas in Gaza.

“Qatar does not have the right to send money for rockets and tunnels which are fired at innocent civilians,” the outgoing statesman told UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon in Jerusalem. “Their funding of terror must stop. If they want to build then they should, but they must not be allowed to destroy.”

Qatar’s recently attempted to transfer funds for the salaries of Hamas civil servants in Gaza, following the formation of a Palestinian unity government, but was blocked by the United States, which pressured the Arab Bank not to process them. But former national security adviser Maj. Gen. (res) Yaakov Amidror told The Times of Israel that the emirate’s funding for the organization’s terror apparatus, including tunnel diggers and rocket launchers, has continued unabated.


8 posted on 07/25/2014 9:07:50 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
“.. but the organization was not prepared for the IDF to start the ground incursion so soon and hoped to have convenient exit strategies.”

“O” suggested that everyone slow down.

Right. HIS judgment is worth... what?

9 posted on 07/25/2014 9:07:53 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Diogenesis

In Qatari-Backed Trip, UN ‘s Ban Ki-moon Laid Low by Israel’s Peres
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3184274/posts

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/23/in-qatari-backed-trip-un-s-ban-ki-moon-laid-low-by-israels-peres-mr-secretary-general-they-even-use-your-unrwa-schools-to-store-their-rockets/

Israeli President Shimon Peres on Wednesday told United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-moon that Israel would not stand by while Qatar, which paid for the UN official’s private flight to the Middle East, continued to finance Hamas militants, and took Ban to task for the two UN-run schools found to be housing Hamas rockets in Gaza.

In his last full day in office, Peres, a historically dovish leader, struck a defiant tone in a statement delivered to the media after meeting Ban at the President’s Residence, in Jerusalem.

“Qatar does not have the right to send money for rockets and tunnels which are fired at innocent civilians,” Peres said. “Their funding of terror the must stop.”

Newsweek‘s Benny Avni reported on Monday that the Qatari government paid for the UN Secretary General’s flight through the Middle East, where his first stop on Sunday was Doha, where he denounced Israel’s Operation Protective Edge’s battle in Shuja’iya, a border city that had been overrun by competing Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad fighters, and where rockets were hidden in mosques, hospitals, playgrounds and cemeteries connected by tunnels used to infiltrate the Israeli border and attack Kibbutz Nahal Oz a mile away.


10 posted on 07/25/2014 9:09:07 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Diogenesis

US blocked Qatari funds intended for Hamas employee
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3180818/posts

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-blocked-qatari-funds-intended-for-hamas-employees/

The United States has blocked the transfer of Qatari funds earmarked for the salaries of civil servants hired by Hamas in Gaza, The Times of Israel has learned.

A diplomatic source in the Gulf state, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that Qatar had transferred hundreds of millions of dollars to Arab Bank for the salaries of some 44,000 Hamas civil servants. Those civil servants — employed by Hamas in Gaza since its takeover of the Strip in 2007 – were rendered jobless by the unity agreement with Fatah last month.

But the money was never processed by Arab Bank and delivered to Hamas, the source told The Times of Israel, due to pressure from the Americans, who consider Hamas a terror organization.

“This is strange, since funds from Qatar have never been blocked in the past,” the source said, referring to the $400 million aid package pledged by Qatari ruler Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa during his visit to Gaza in October 2012.

Hamas’s deputy political bureau chief Moussa Abu Marzouk lambasted Arab Bank for neglecting to process the funds in comments posted on his Facebook page June 28.


11 posted on 07/25/2014 9:11:14 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

If Israel is overrun, I am certain of two things: This administration won’t help the Israelis at all and the last Israeli standing will push a button that will turn much of the Middle East to glass.


12 posted on 07/25/2014 9:12:31 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: Diogenesis

Traveler is still spamming pro-Hamas propaganda. No clue that Gaza = Hamas.


13 posted on 07/25/2014 9:14:14 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler

bttt


14 posted on 07/25/2014 9:14:39 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (In America, we don't do pin pricks. But sometimes we elect them.)
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To: Star Traveler

Sadly, due to the Obama administratin, it is beyond credible dispute that the US is funding Hamas, in flagrant violation of US law. See Diogenesis’s post no. 2 above.

Star Traveler keeps spamming every thread about Hamas with his lies, but the truth has a way of emerging.


15 posted on 07/25/2014 9:17:37 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Tzfat

I suspect that he is trying to bring fatigue to the FReeper community in hope that we will turn our attention elsewhere.

Never have I seen a leftist troll last so long on Free Republic. I am impressed. If only he would use his stamina for good instead of evil purposes.


16 posted on 07/25/2014 9:19:13 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Piranha

It’s a violation of US law to give money or arms to Hamas, but it NOT a violation of US law for the USA to give humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians, through an agency such as UNRWA. And note here that Israel does not have ANY PROBLEM AT ALL in passing through humanitarian aid through their checkpoints and into Gaza.

In fact, just a couple of days ago, the Israeli Ambassador spoke at the UN Human Rights Council and said that Israel is not against the residents of Gaza, but Israel is against Hamas.

One further point here is that both the USA and Israel have given money and aid to the Palestinian Authority and it is not against the law in the USA to do that (with the PA). Hamas is listed officially in the USA as a “Foreign Terrorist Organization” but the Palestinian Authority is not.


17 posted on 07/25/2014 9:20:09 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Your endless disingenuous "defense" of Hamas and its links to Kerry, Obama,
Clinton, Huma and the Agencies cited (including the State Dept & IRS)
is without foundation.

Yet you post over and over while
THIS has been the result of the rockets of Obama and the UN
and Hamas in their War Crimes against children (in Gaza and Israel);
here in Tel Aviv 7/16.


18 posted on 07/25/2014 9:21:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Star Traveler

Hamas signed their own death warrant and Israel is serving it up. Israel should kill every last Hamas terrorist and takes back Gaza as Israeli territory.


19 posted on 07/25/2014 9:21:31 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: Star Traveler

The US under Obama is funding Hamas in blatant and flagrant violation of US law.

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/06/04/not-first-time-palestinian-aid-violated-the-law/


20 posted on 07/25/2014 9:22:53 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Piranha

Israel’s Ambassador to the UN Human Rights Council has explicitly said that Israel is NOT AGAINST the residents of Gaza, which is why both Israel and the USA sends humanitarian aid to Gaza. Israel lets all this through its own checkpoints ... and works with agencies such as UNRWA. The latest amount if money that the USA designated for Gaza is handled through UNRWA

Both Israel and the USA are against Hamas and it’s terrorist operatives but not against the Palestinian civilians or helping them. Those are simply the facts for both Israel and the USA, jointly.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 9:24:38 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Piranha

That’s the Palestinian Authority, and as I said earlier, the Palestinian Authority is NOT a designated terrorist organization as is Hamas (which is officially listed).

Both Israel and the USA sends money to the Palestinian Authority.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 9:26:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Diogenesis

You mix up “Hamas” with “Palestinian civilians”. As the Israeli Ambassador to the UN Human Rights Council said a couple of days ago, Israel is not against the Palestinian civilians in Gaza but both the USA and Israel is against Hamas in Gaza.


23 posted on 07/25/2014 9:29:17 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

They also cannot see truth, because as Jesus Himself put it:

“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated Me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.” — John 15:18-19

Is it a coincidence that we have what is happening right now in Israel and Gaza right smack dab in the middle of “blood moon” time?

I support Israel and I support Israel’s right to the land that GOD gave her and I support Israel’s right to defend herself. I do this as a Christian who believes with St. Paul that ultimately, eventually, “all Israel will be saved” as “they look upon Me whom they pierced and mourn as for an only son” when Jesus Christ returns in His glory to reclaim planet earth from the devil and his human tools.

These are frightening times – as the establishment of a caliphate across Iraq and Syria, the shooting down of a commercial jet with nearly 300 souls BY RUSSIA through their separatist proxies, and now this.

But Jesus told us that the end would be characterized as nation arising against nation, and that the violence would come closer and closer together as birth pangs come upon a woman about to give birth.

Christians can be steadfast and immovable because we alone can know beforehand where the world is going and where WE’RE going.

The Rapture is at hand. And if you aren’t looking up you are in danger of being left behind to see the coming Antichrist and the coming Tribulation and the coming Armageddon that the Bible describes.

I pray for the Israeli soldiers, that they be safe. I pray for the safety of the Israeli people, whom God has miraculously protected just as He declared He would in the last days. And I pray for the safety of innocent Palestinians who are forced to endure misery because they allowed a terrorist state to represent them. Most of all, I pray for the salvation of people – Jew, Muslim and all other Gentiles – as the world prepares to worship the beast and take his mark in these last days.

For the record, let me give you this spoiler alert: if you read the Bible, you find that God wins. Jesus Christ will return at the end of the seven-years Great Tribulation that is coming upon the world as King of kings and as Lord of lords.

http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/2014/07/17/four-blood-moons-the-beginning-of-the-end-israel-invades-hamas-after-over-1200-terrorist-rockets-and-two-broken-cease-fires/


24 posted on 07/25/2014 9:31:56 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Star Traveler

pali civilians voted for hamas to represent them and their feelings. palis want to murder israelis. These uncivilized subhumans teach this to their children. Israel is being PC in their position. They know the palis are a cancer on civilization. palis = hamas hamas = palis


25 posted on 07/25/2014 9:32:13 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Tzfat

Not according to the Israeli Ambassador who stated the official position of Israel to the UN Human Rights Council and said that Israel was not against the residents in Gaza, but against Hamas and their terrorist operatives. He said that, right in the middle of all this fighting, officially, just two days ago.


26 posted on 07/25/2014 9:33:41 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: hal ogen

That’s not the stared position of Israel, which sent its Ambassador to the UN Human Rights Council and told them that Israel is not against the Palestinians in Gaza, but against Hamas and its terrorist organization.


27 posted on 07/25/2014 9:35:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

The Israelis are merely being PC.


28 posted on 07/25/2014 9:36:50 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: PLD

Yes, as the Apostle Paul said ... ALL ISRAEL shall be saved ... and that upon the return of the Messiah of Israel, back to earth and setting up his one-world government and ruling from Jerusalem!


29 posted on 07/25/2014 9:37:36 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: hal ogen

You should see what the IDF says on it’s web page, then ... :-) ...


30 posted on 07/25/2014 9:38:12 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Hamas Prepared Attack That Would Bring Israel to Its Knees
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This is the Hamas version of the Tet Offensive and they are throwing everything they have against Israel unless Hamas is totally eliminated.


31 posted on 07/25/2014 9:39:04 AM PDT by RetSignman (obama: "For the love of Alinsky, how much more do I have to do to get them to impeach me"?)
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To: Piranha

If it’s LEFTIST to support Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and Israel and keep it safe and secure as the “homeland for the Jews” amd support the current policies of the government of Israel, with Netanyahu as leader, along with supporting the IDF in its own stated goals — then we should all be LEFTIST like that ... LOL ...


32 posted on 07/25/2014 9:41:11 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: RetSignman

It’s extremely fortunate for Israel that they have discovered these “attack tunnels” because (as the government of Israel says) ... these particular tunnels are more dangerous than the rockets ... even THOUSANDS of rockets!


33 posted on 07/25/2014 9:42:46 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

It is illegal for the US to continue to fund Hamas.

Your lies and obfuscations and diversions are meaningless. All of the articles that Diogenesis and I have posted make clear that the issue is funding of the Palestinian Authority after the Hamas-terror-unity government was formed.

Your lies are not winning you any support.

Here is another article about the same thing.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/25/palestinian-pact-with-hamas-threatens-us-aid/?page=all


34 posted on 07/25/2014 9:43:39 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Star Traveler

You are a lying troll ... LOL ...
I am a supporter of Netanyahu’s efforts to eradicate the tunnels and I will support him when he occupies Gaza ... LOL ...
You are a leftist who believes that if you spread the big lie long enough people will believe it ... LOL ...

It is illegal for the US to fund Hamas and organizations affiliated with it, including the Palestinian Authority ... LOL ...

The circumstances in Gaza have changed in the past week, since Israel has discovered that Hamas planned a massive terror attack in myriads of southern Israeli communities, to occur on Rosh Hashanah, one of the holiest days of the Jewish calendar when many, if not most, of the men would be praying in their synagogues ... LOL ...

Your lying, obfuscation and denial are not convincing anyone ... LOL ...

Diogenesis and I have posted ample articles to refute your lies and yet you continue to post them ... LOL ...


35 posted on 07/25/2014 9:46:57 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Star Traveler

Have you seen this? Enjoy.

Joan Rivers — GOES OFF on Epic Israel/Palestine Rant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-5Q7yuaXjM


36 posted on 07/25/2014 9:47:36 AM PDT by GOPJ (To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize-Voltaire)
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To: Piranha

If the USA actually funded Hamas, it would definitely be illegal. But it is not illegal to fund the Palestinian Authority, and both Israel and the USA do that with the PA.

The reason why it’s illegal for the USA to fund or support Hamas is that it is officially listed in the USA as a “Foreign Terrorist Organization”. The PA is not, and both Israel and the USA have a long history of working with the PA.

Neither have ANY HISTORY of cooperation or funding or supporting Hamas in Gaza.

You’ll CONTINUE to see the funding of the Palestinian Authority by the USA and Israel, while you won’t see that at a all with Hamas in Gaza.

And just recently Egypt made a provision in the cease-fire proposals to put Abbas and the Palestinian Authority in charge of the Gaza side of the Egyptian border. Israel was okay with that provision from Egypt, as that would take Hamas away from comtrol of that border.

I’m afraid you’re way out of touch with what Israel and the USA are doing.


37 posted on 07/25/2014 9:52:45 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Piranha

As I said, if it’s LEFTIST (as you put it) ... to support Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and Israel and keep it safe and secure as the “homeland for the Jews” amd support the current policies of the government of Israel, with Netanyahu as leader, along with supporting the IDF in its own stated goals — then we should all be LEFTIST like that ... LOL ...

You’re the one who said it was LEFTIST to do that, since I’ve been supporting Prime Mimister Venjamin Netanyahu, Israel, the IDF and the policies that they’ve all stated! ... :-) ...


38 posted on 07/25/2014 9:56:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: GOPJ

LOL ... just say what you mean ... :-) ...


39 posted on 07/25/2014 9:57:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

It is true that both Israel and the US have a long — and unfortunate — history of working with the Palestinian Authority.

It was only in late April 2014 that Hamas officially joined the Palestinian Authority to form a coalition government.

This made continued funding illegal.


40 posted on 07/25/2014 10:04:06 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Star Traveler

If you were half as clever as you think you are you would be dangerous. As it is your propaganda in support of the continued existence of Hamas in Gaza is transparent ... LOL ...

I support Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Some 85% of Israelis support his efforts to eliminate the threat from Hamas in Gaza. That includes many leftists such as Yair Lapid and Tzipi Livni ... LOL ...

You continue to spam every post about the Hamas terror threat with lies about the US not supporting that organization ... LOL ...

Israel has to operate in the world in which it lives. Unfortunately, we have a dangerous US administration that has allied itself with the Muslim Brotherhood and its allies, including Hamas in Gaza. This is why Israel has had to swallow untenable policies, such as housing construction halts and even demolitions of homes where Israelis live ... LOL ...

As Israel’s efforts to curtail Hamas terror in Gaza have advanced, Israel has learned — through interrogation of surrendering Hamas terrorists who, it turns out, do value their lives, as well as through records that Israel has found in the terror tunnels — that Hamas was planning a previously un-heard-of terror attack against Israel for Rosh Hashana, one of the holiest days in the Jewish calendar, when many, if not most, of the Jews in the targeted communities in the south of Israel were likely to be in synagogue ... LOL ...

It is safe to say that at this point the vast majority of Israelis, even the leftists, endorse the policy of occupying Gaza, eliminating the threat from Hamas, and dealing with the situation from that point ... LOL ...

It is a futile effort of the left, yourself included, to try and preserve Hamas’ administrative authority over Gaza. While the organization may exert hegemonic control over the people, that will dissipate as Hamas continues to come to ruin ... LOL ...

Don’t forget that Hamas was put in a position of weakness after the obliteration of the Muslim Brotherhood regime in Egypt, which had been its biggest ally ...:-)...


41 posted on 07/25/2014 10:13:08 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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Not according to the law in the USA ...

And if one wants to say something about it apart from the law ... very simply it’s that Israel and the PA do have a certain degree of cooperation. Israel wants them for the administration of the civilians in their territories (Israel does not want their soldiers to be handling all those civilians) ... AND ... most recently the PA did cooperate with Israel im searching and aiding Israel in searching for the killers of those three Israeli teens.

For all practical purposes, Israel needs the Palestinian Authority for all those Palestinians in the territories, so Israel doesn’t have to deal with it every day and expose their soldiers to a lot of attacks.

The Palestinian Authority is not going away and Israel is going to continue to deal with them. It’s Hamas that they’re not going to deal with.


42 posted on 07/25/2014 10:13:21 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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It is a lie to say that the Palestinian Authority cooperated with Israel in searching and aiding Israel in searching for the killers of those three Israeli teens.

The first thing that Fatah, which is the non-Hamas part of the Palestinian Authority regime, did was to post on its website a warning to all not to cooperate with the investigation.

To date the killers never have been found.


43 posted on 07/25/2014 10:14:56 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Star Traveler

How can anyone with nukes in his back pocket ever have to go down on their knees?

Isn’t the nuke not the great exalizer among nations who are willing to use it?


44 posted on 07/25/2014 10:18:19 AM PDT by 353FMG
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I think you continue to confuse the “Palestinian civilians” -versus- Hamas and their terrorist organization.

Israel has no problem in dealing with Hamas and its operatives and killing those attackers. The USA doesn’t have any problems with that either.

But both the USA and Israel don’t confuse Hamas with Palestinian civilians. On the website for the IDF, they have videos showing how they protect Palestinian civilians from collateral damge while attacking Hamas and their operatives.

The Israeli Ambassador clearly states in the UN Human Rights Council, just a few days ago, that Israel has no fight against the Palestinians in Gaza, bit they are fighting Hamas.

AND ... Israel has no problem with any humanitarian aid getting to the Palestinian civilians in Gaza, but they won’t let any arms or military parts get to Hamas in Gaza. And Israel lets UNRWA administer the humanitarian aid and let’s it go through the Israeli checkpoints.

SO ... Israel doesn’t make the Palestinian civilians the enemy to be attacked or starved or driven out - but - Israel will attack amd kill and get rid of Hamas operatives, just as they are doing now.

I continually see you mix up Hamas with Palestinian civilians, which neither Israel ir the USA does.


45 posted on 07/25/2014 10:24:40 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: 353FMG

How well does a nuke work on Obama? ... :-) ...


46 posted on 07/25/2014 10:25:57 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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Well, some of the Palestinians were PROTESTING that the PA was cooperating with Israel, on that ... :-) ...


47 posted on 07/25/2014 10:27:19 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

When you have a nuke in your pocket and you stand with your back against the Med and are surrounded by enemies, you reach for the nuke and pull a Samson.


48 posted on 07/25/2014 10:37:33 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: 353FMG

I would hate to see Israel destroy itself that way. But, I do know the “end of the story” and that Israel continues!

I read in the Bible that during a particularly hard and difficult time, during the Trivulation, Israel will be protected im the wilderness, until the coming of the Messiah of Israel.


49 posted on 07/25/2014 10:43:00 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler; All

Muslim Obama has loosed the Muslim GITMO FIVE and ISIS, and Hamas have obeyed their cell phone orders from Qatar, almost immediately!

Muslim Obama is helping Hamas and ISIS win by bleeding Israel and the USA dry.

Israel and the USA have lots of toys of War to play Obama’s favorite game of “Whack-a-Mole,” but Hamas and ISIS have many, many more people.

4 posted on July 25, 2014 at 12:28:30 PM CDT by Graewoulf (Democrats’ Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Where is the Obama failure in the Middle East?

Obama is a Muslim, and the Muslims in the Middle East are WINNING!

How can that be a failure for Muslim Obama?

Muslim Obama last year abandoned former Ally Iraq to the “Our Goal is 72” Muslims.

Certainly that act of betrayal to a former ally must count for something on the Muslim Street!

Muslim Obama promises to abandon present Ally Afghanistan just as soon as he raises enough money from Democrat Oligarchs to insure victory for the Candidates in Mormon Reid’s Personal Senate.

Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner keeps Obama in power by not Impeaching Obama.

Reid shuts down the Muslim Obama Government, (MOG), anytime that Boehner refuses to write Obama a Blank Check.

It is a perfect storm of Muslim Win-Win on “both sides” of The Pond!

Muslim Obama is happy enough to play hooky from his day job to raise Campaign money for Mormon Reid’s Senate Candidates.

Well, to be fair, Obama’s attempts to promote the Muslim Brotherhood did take a minor setback in Egypt, but ISIS has more than compensated for that temporary Muslim “speed bump.”

Hear ye, hear ye! ‘ Obama is in charge, and the Muslims are on the FORWARD run! ‘ ( to paraphrase a pre-Benghazi Democrat Campaign slogan).

Iranian-born Muslim Valerie Jarrett, is probably shopping right now for her fashion statement: yup, a Red White and Blue Burka!

When Obama promises that he will send in no US Forces, the “Our Goal is 72” Muslims ALWAYS believe Obama, because Obama is a Muslim, and the number 72 has something to do with bringing sexual harm to young, innocent girls.

When Muslim Obama speaks to his Muslims, the lights go out in Christendom, - - - all over the Middle East.

The Democrat’s Left Stream Media are speechless, in awe of the raw power of Obamanation.

The Muslims in the Middle East seek Sharia Law, and Obama seeks Michelle-Jarrett Law.

The way things are going so smoothly now, the Muslims on both sides of The Pond will achieve their goals very, very soon.

BTW; will Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner have to convert to being an official Muslim, or will he just have to pay a tax?

Probably the latter, as Boehner can just write another Blank Check - - - - .


50 posted on 07/25/2014 10:54:04 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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