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Live thread: Cabinet said to unanimously reject Kerry ceasefire - Kerry to speak soon
Times of Israel ^ | 7/25/14 1:37pm EST

Posted on 07/25/2014 10:41:44 AM PDT by Dave346

20:37 IST

Israeli ministers have rejected ceasefire terms presented by Secretary of State John Kerry, Channel 2 reports.

The ministerial vote was unanimous, it says.

Earlier, it was reported that ministers were adamant that they would not accept a ceasefire that left the threat posed by Hamas’s terror tunnels unresolved.


TOPICS: Egypt; Israel; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: egypt; johnkerry; lurch; massachusetts
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1 posted on 07/25/2014 10:41:44 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Thank God!


2 posted on 07/25/2014 10:42:55 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Dave346

If I was Bibi I wouldn’t have even let their plane land.


3 posted on 07/25/2014 10:43:38 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Dave346

A little off topic, but perhaps not: Did you see footage of Kerry stumbling down the steps of his plane on the news last night? He looked drunk. Which might be why no one listens to or cares what he says.

He should go back to DC and drink with Obama, just the two of them, while the world goes its own way.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 10:44:39 AM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: V_TWIN

Uh oh, bammi will not be pleased he cannot help out his buddies on the other side.


5 posted on 07/25/2014 10:44:43 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Dave346

Thank you Lord!
freegards
LEX


6 posted on 07/25/2014 10:44:50 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: V_TWIN

john kerry................what a mook.


7 posted on 07/25/2014 10:45:58 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Dave346

8 posted on 07/25/2014 10:46:43 AM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: V_TWIN

Definition of MOOK:
slang:

a foolish, insignificant, or contemptible person


9 posted on 07/25/2014 10:47:04 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Dave346

Lego Kerry falling to pieces


10 posted on 07/25/2014 10:47:19 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: V_TWIN
If I was Bibi I wouldn’t have even let their plane land.

Let him land.

Gaza must have a strip somewhere for Kerry.

If need be, all he needs is a 2 mile stretch of highway - Gaza roads must be mostly parallel to the coast in a straight line...

11 posted on 07/25/2014 10:48:30 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Dave346

Israel would do well by staying away from this administration as much as possible.


12 posted on 07/25/2014 10:48:50 AM PDT by mware
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To: Dave346

Israel chooses survival, and says so to Kerry? The nerve!

John F Kerry was in Viet Nam you know.


13 posted on 07/25/2014 10:49:52 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: V_TWIN

It fits perfectly.


14 posted on 07/25/2014 10:49:54 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Dave346

But he was in Cambodia on the Christmas of...

Hmmm, evidently the Israeli cabinet respects men who bear false witness against their fellow men in the theater of war less favorably than the Democrats in the US do.


15 posted on 07/25/2014 10:51:04 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Think how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are stupider than that.)
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To: Dave346

I was praying they wouldn’t fall for this. They need to clean the swamp, a cease fire is dangerous because it gives the snakes a chance to multiply.


16 posted on 07/25/2014 10:51:20 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Dave346

John, why the long face?


17 posted on 07/25/2014 10:51:23 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: RedMDer

Time for Obama and Kerry to head to the Vineyard and go fart and giggle with all their lib friends and members of the media.


18 posted on 07/25/2014 10:52:14 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Veto!

He was probably suckin’ on his wife’s raisins. because Kerry sucks.

Being a loser has to hurt.


19 posted on 07/25/2014 10:52:36 AM PDT by dforest
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To: exit82

Har!


20 posted on 07/25/2014 10:53:02 AM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Dave346

Israel’s response should be for Kerry to try some high dose Botox.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 10:53:39 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Dave346

Apparently the cabinet wasn’t aware that Kerry was in Viet Nam.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 10:53:57 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Dave346

Good ol’ “bolt neck”. (H/T Chris Plante)


23 posted on 07/25/2014 10:55:27 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RitaOK

Was he? Never heard that. ;)


24 posted on 07/25/2014 10:56:27 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: RitaOK

During the course of this Gaza operation Israel has found significant Hamas files in the tunnels and interrogated more than 100 Hamas terrorists.

Israel uncovered the most massive terror plot against it in its history. Hamas has used its US-funded tunnels to dig all the way to several kibbutzim and other communities in southern Israel. On Rosh Hashana, one of the holiest days on the Jewish calendar and less than 3 months away, Hamas was going to stage multiple terror attacks on thise communities, massacring as many people as they could.

Israel is united against Hamas. Netanyahu as about 85% approval in Israel for removing Hamas as a threat to Israel. There is growing consensus in Israel for occupying Gaza and obliterating Hamas entirely.

While governments of Israel, including those led by Netanyahu, have acceded to unreasonable US demands, those are seen as tactical retreats. Thank G-d this government unanimously is willing to face the pressure of an enraged Obama/Kerry administration rather than jeopardize its own survival as a country.

I hope that Israel’s friends here and elsewhere give Israel’s government their full-throated support as the IDF continues to press on and “do the work that Americans won’t do”.


25 posted on 07/25/2014 10:59:15 AM PDT by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: exit82

Can someone post a photo of Bert from Bert and Ernie?


26 posted on 07/25/2014 11:00:47 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Dave346

The ministerial vote was unanimous ....

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Bit of a smackdown ..... which is what happens when you send a ketchup bottle in a suit to negotiate anything, especially when one side is a bunch of terrorists.


27 posted on 07/25/2014 11:01:48 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. (W.E. Johns)
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To: RitaOK

Israel chooses survival, and says so to Kerry? The nerve!

John F Kerry was in Viet Nam you know.

but Kerry will still get his Nobel Peace Prize ,although he may have to share it with Obama


28 posted on 07/25/2014 11:06:48 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Veto!

Didn’t he serve in Viet Nam?


29 posted on 07/25/2014 11:07:16 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: chajin
One good outcome of the weak Obama Administration. Tell Kerry to take his lying traitorous anti-Vietnam ass back to Washington.
30 posted on 07/25/2014 11:08:42 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: stanne
Your wish is my command :)

31 posted on 07/25/2014 11:13:56 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: RedMDer

I’m sorry, but it IS the plastic surgery.


32 posted on 07/25/2014 11:14:54 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Dave346

Was that a pin point rejection?


33 posted on 07/25/2014 11:15:11 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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34 posted on 07/25/2014 11:16:19 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Dave346

Well hardy har har.


35 posted on 07/25/2014 11:16:52 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Dave346

Kerry was supposed to speak at 2pm EST. Now running 20 minutes late.

Bet he doesn’t even know what to say yet!


36 posted on 07/25/2014 11:19:26 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Oldexpat

lol


37 posted on 07/25/2014 11:22:58 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Dave346

Joining Kerry in Cairo press conference will be UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.

Both Kerry and Ban supported the Hamas terms for a ceasefire. Ban has been flying on a Qatari plane even though Qatar is one of the main financiers of Hamas.


38 posted on 07/25/2014 11:26:12 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Kerry / Ban in Cairo now 30 minutes late.

Will be live on FOX news.


39 posted on 07/25/2014 11:30:26 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; Piranha; molson209

What happened to Egypt? How did Kerry manage to elbow them out of the way to bull his way into the spot light? With what threats was Egypt beat about the head and shoulders?

Kerry needs to go meet the entry level performance bar for releasing our Marine from the cartel justice of Mexico before taking on anything in the Middle East. How hard would that be? One dang Marine? How hard?

Israel is safer with Kerry no where near them!


40 posted on 07/25/2014 11:32:42 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Dave346

21:43 IST

At a press conference in Cairo, Egypt’s Foreign Minister Sameh Shukri says Egypt has been working non-stop to stop the killing of civilians and protect the Palestinian people. He urges an immediate ceasefire to the Israel-Hamas conflict.

He calls on both sides to accept a seven-day humanitarian ceasefire, and start negotiating to end the crisis. He says the Egyptian proposal is still on the table. He says Egypt has being working for an acceptable text, but without success thus far.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/two-killed-in-fierce-clashes-near-jerusalem-rocket-downed-over-eilat/


41 posted on 07/25/2014 11:49:17 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: RitaOK

Marines are so far down on the food chain of this neglected country that it would amaze me if John f ing Kerry knew his name.

Andrew Tahmooressi

And he is reportedly well esteemed by his fellow troops.


42 posted on 07/25/2014 11:50:44 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Dave346

UN’s Ban now speaking on MSNBC. Not being shown on CNN or FOX.


43 posted on 07/25/2014 11:52:54 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Actually Ban is appearing on MSNBC but they are talking over him.


44 posted on 07/25/2014 11:53:58 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: stanne

Thank you for spelling his name for me. I need to go write his name on my car back window.


45 posted on 07/25/2014 11:59:06 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: Dave346

20:53 IST

No truce yet, but we’re still working, says Kerry

John Kerry is speaking now, praising his hosts, and PA chief Abbas, for pushing for a ceasefire as soon as possible.

He talks about the grief and blood of the conflict.

He says Israel is being battered by rockets and targeted through terror tunnels, and cites the death of lone soldier Max Steinberg. “In Gaza hundreds of Palestinians have been killed,” he says, citing yesterday’s attack at a UN school and other incidents.

“Violence breeds violence,” he declares, and calls for “long-term change” that he says “both parties really want.”

Specifically, he says “we are working towards a brief seven days of peace. Seven days of a humanitarian ceasefire in honor of (the Muslim festival) Eid” — leading to talks on a more durable arrangement. “The basic structure is built on the Egyptian initiative,” he says. But the humanitarian element is built on.

Egypt has offered to bring the “Palestinian factions” to Cairo, and other interested parties, and Israel for these talks. “We still have some terminology” to work through. “But we are confident that we have a fundamental framework” that can work.

“We don’t yet have that framework,” he says, “but none of us are stopping.”

He says he just spoke with Netanyahu who “made it clear that he wants to find this way forward.”

He says Ban Ki-moon is pushing a 12-hour time out.

He says he’s flying to Paris tomorrow to meet with “other players who are important to this discussion” and try and narrow the gap, and that Netanyahu is committed to trying to do that.


46 posted on 07/25/2014 11:59:22 AM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Hudna


47 posted on 07/25/2014 12:03:41 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: Dave346

End the chokehold on Gaza, says UN chief

20:58 IST

Ban Ki-moon says the bloodshed has to stop.

First, stop the fighting, he says — first for a seven-day period, beginning with a 12-hour pause.

Second, start talking.

Third, tackle the root causes of the crisis. The fighting emphasizes the need to end the 47-year occupation and “the chokehold on Gaza,” and achieve a viable two-state solution.


48 posted on 07/25/2014 12:07:41 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Actually 21:58 IST right now for last post. 9:58pm in Israel.


49 posted on 07/25/2014 12:09:13 PM PDT by Dave346
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To: Dave346

Ban has conveniently forgotten that Israel withdrew from Gaza 9 years ago! What “occupation” is he referring to?


50 posted on 07/25/2014 12:11:32 PM PDT by Dave346
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