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APNewsBreak: Gun law based on flawed estimate
Associated Press via Yahoo! ^ | 07.25.2014 | IVAN MORENO

Posted on 07/25/2014 11:54:04 AM PDT by dware

DENVER (AP) — A law expanding background check requirements on Colorado gun sales has been in effect for about a year, and an Associated Press analysis of state data compiled during that span shows the projected impact was vastly overstated in a key budget report.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; colorado; guncontrol
Rhonda Fields, the sponsor of the legislation, says she is happy with the results. She was 93% incorrect, and she's ok with that. Somehow, I'm not.
1 posted on 07/25/2014 11:54:04 AM PDT by dware
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To: george76

Colorado gun news ping!


2 posted on 07/25/2014 11:54:53 AM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: dware
She was 93% incorrect

That's way better than your average politician.

These people are just stupid.

3 posted on 07/25/2014 12:01:31 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: dware

“Nothing good came of the passage of the law, except we found out just how anti-gun Democrats in Colorado are,”

They ALL are. Its part of their religion. And time again they have dmeonstrated that gun control is not about crime control. Its about citizen control.

The Democrats HAVE become what the Founding Fathers warned us about - people who want to take away all your rights and support a power-mad tyrant in the White House because he promises to give them all free stuff.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 12:04:58 PM PDT by ZULU (Go REDSKINS!!! Impeach Obama!!!)
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To: dware

13,600/420,000 = 3.2%

Not to quiblle but she was 96.7% incorrect. ;)


5 posted on 07/25/2014 12:07:59 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Democrats have destroyed more cities than Godzilla)
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To: dware

Two Problems with the story:

1) “it shows me that people are complying with the law”

It shows no such thing

2) “fewer dangerous people with guns”

This assumes those restricted from access are “dangerous”, which has no basis in fact.


6 posted on 07/25/2014 12:08:46 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Mikey_1962
Add this to the calculation:

Taken together, this indicates that the number of newly mandated background checks that have been performed is even lower than 13,600.

>96.7% incorrect. ;-)
7 posted on 07/25/2014 12:13:20 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: dware

I hate the fact that they do background checks that identify the weapon being purchased. That being said since I signed on to FreeRepublic I have come into possession of about 20 weapons. Some from dealers, some from sporting goods stores and the majority from gun shows. The only two guns that haven’t been background checked are two antique shotguns my father gave me. Where is that huge gun show loophole?


8 posted on 07/25/2014 12:22:17 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: dware

Could it be more likely that they got the number of private transactions right to begin with and 93% are just ignoring this unenforceable and unconstitutional law?


9 posted on 07/25/2014 12:26:12 PM PDT by apillar
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To: PA Engineer

“This assumes those restricted from access are “dangerous”, which has no basis in fact.”
CO is one of 13 states that insists on spending our tax money to do our own background check in addition to the NICS check. We have consistently had among the highest rate of reversed on appeal denials. So aside from there being no guarantee that the people denied where people affected by the new law, here is not a very good chance at all that any or the people denied were dangerous. Criminal know they are criminals and usually don’t acquire guns through channels that require background checks.


10 posted on 07/25/2014 12:29:08 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: dware

The intent of gun control is NOT crime control. Liberals need street crime to keep their constituents occupied and not thinking, and lots of violent street crime keeps them down rather cheaply.

Crime is enabled when citizens are disarmed (the flipside of More Guns Less Crime). When criminals get into office they enable other criminals to operate.

So, when they pass gun control laws and crime goes up, it’s not a failure of the law, to a liberal, it’s an excuse for more laws.

The other goal of gun control is to prevent we the people from forming up into large armed groups seeking to oust criminals in our government. They don’t teach the Battle Of Athens in schools but I bet most politicians know about it.


11 posted on 07/25/2014 12:31:08 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Ping!


12 posted on 07/25/2014 12:36:41 PM PDT by basil (Sorry to hear this)
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To: dware; MileHi; dynachrome; Balata; bboop; BulletBobCo; Carley; ColoCowgirl; Colorado Doug; ...

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


13 posted on 07/25/2014 12:54:52 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DBrow
They don’t teach the Battle Of Athens in schools but I bet most politicians know about it.

... to which of the Battles for Atlanta do you refer?

Battle of Athens (1861), American Civil War battle in Northeast Missouri

Battle of Athens (1864), American Civil War battle in Northern Alabama

Battle of Sulphur Creek Trestle, American Civil War battle in Northern Alabama also called the Battle of Athens.

Battle of Athens (1946) or the McMinn County War in Tennessee in 1946

14 posted on 07/25/2014 12:58:48 PM PDT by doc11355
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To: dware; george76

“shows the projected impact was vastly overstated in a key budget report.”

I am just shocked, shocked I tell you.


15 posted on 07/25/2014 1:02:04 PM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: doc11355

The 1946 one would be the relevant one.


16 posted on 07/25/2014 1:40:58 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: doc11355

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17 posted on 07/25/2014 1:41:00 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Starstruck

the only one i can tell is if you at a gun show buy a gun from a private person. buying from another private person is the only one they despise and consider a “loophole”. private sales are not loopholes.

if they are, then selling anything you own to another private person is a loophole. it is legal for you to sell to another without having to do a background check. and only criminals sell to shady folks and/or sell deliberately to known criminals or straw buyers, they’ve decided that’s how they want to be. most gun folks will not sell to people that look shady or act funny about it. they don’t want it biting them’in the ass by asociation.


18 posted on 07/25/2014 2:30:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have gifted some of my guns to family members. I know their backgrounds. The only gun I have sold was one I let a friend use to go deer hunting. The Enfield nailed a deer at several hundred yards and he loved it. I had two so I sold him the gun. I would never sell to someone I don’t know.


19 posted on 07/25/2014 2:39:51 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Starstruck

and i think you are indicative of over 99% of citizen gun owners.

so this private-sale ‘loophole’ they cite is really bogus, a non-starter.


20 posted on 07/25/2014 4:16:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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