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Homeless Shelter’s Opening in Queens Stirs Ugly Exchanges
The New York Times ^ | 25 July 2014 | KATE TAYLOR and JEFFREY E. SINGER

Posted on 07/25/2014 12:51:40 PM PDT by Theoria

The crowd of 500 included grandmothers and small children, Chinese immigrants and the president of a local Republican club, all shouting that the mayor had trampled their rights.

The source of their anger? The 180 homeless families the city had moved into the defunct Pan American Hotel in Elmhurst, Queens. The residents felt nervous around the new arrivals, they said. There were reports of shoplifting from the Good Fortune Supermarket, public urination and panhandling – all things, they said, that had been unheard-of in their neighborhood until now.

During the protest on Tuesday night, one of the organizers spoke through a bullhorn in Mandarin, as a few people looked out of the windows of the hotel.

“Speak in English!” a woman leaning out a window shouted, holding up her phone, perhaps to take a video of the protest.

“Homeless with money,” a protester sneered, referring to the woman’s phone.

While local residents often object when the city opens a homeless shelter in their midst, the vitriol in Elmhurst, since the city began moving families into the hotel in early June has shocked city officials. Because many of those opposed to the shelter are Chinese immigrants, the conflict has also produced discomfiting images of immigrant families and the mostly black and Latino homeless families shouting insults at one another. A local civic group has organized a series of protests, including one in late June in which some of the protesters yelled at the shelter residents to “Get a job!” and the homeless families responded that their opponents should “go back to China.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: homeless; nyc; queens; shelter

1 posted on 07/25/2014 12:51:41 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria
You don't need no steenking freedom of association.

You will associate with whoever we tell you to associate with.

2 posted on 07/25/2014 12:54:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: Theoria

Wonder how many of these protesting dupes voted for Deblasio.

My guess: 95%.

Enjoy!


3 posted on 07/25/2014 12:55:36 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Theoria

This is how you ‘’gentrify’’ a neighborhood. Move in the homeless (or a methadone clinic) drive down property values. Folks sell out, bing, you buy up the properties and sell ‘em to the young ‘’professionals’’ as condos and time shares.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 12:56:06 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Theoria

What person in his/her right mind welcomes a “homeless” shelter to their neighborhood?


5 posted on 07/25/2014 12:57:53 PM PDT by Graybeard58 ( A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10,v 19)
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To: Theoria

There goes the neighborhood, for sure. The illegal Chinese, whom I refer to as “coolie Chinese”, are no-class uneducated petty criminals right from the gutters of China. They are the ones who squat near the curb to smoke cigarettes, sell illegal endangered animals for pets, run their own little economy among one another without taxes being collected, toss trash wherever it falls, refuse to learn English or assimilate (except to collect benefits), rummage around in peoples’ garbage cans to collect bottles for redemption, turn lawns into truck gardens, smoke endlessly, littering the sidewalks with butts, go around hawking pirated videos (sometimes right outside video stores!), and bring a new level to “lack of any class”.


6 posted on 07/25/2014 12:58:27 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Theoria
immigrant families and the mostly black and Latino homeless families shouting insults at one another.

Diversity is such a blessing!

7 posted on 07/25/2014 12:59:19 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When people get used to preferential treatment, equal treatment seems like discrimination.-Sowell)
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To: Theoria

Wait until the Central American hordes move in...


8 posted on 07/25/2014 1:01:32 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Theoria
in which some of the protesters yelled at the shelter residents to “Get a job!” and the homeless families responded that their opponents should “go back to China.”

Isn't diversity marvelous?

9 posted on 07/25/2014 1:02:28 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Theoria

Wait till the Honduran and Guatamalan “children” get their with their MS-13 gang signs.

Yee-hah!


10 posted on 07/25/2014 1:03:14 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Theoria

The Chinese are honorary white people. Good for them!


11 posted on 07/25/2014 1:04:46 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
'“Why does the government want to support this group?” Mr. Gao said in Mandarin. “Why do they want to give them free money? We have to work from 11 a.m. to 11 p.m.”'

That is how the game is played Mr. Gao. Hard workers support no workers.

12 posted on 07/25/2014 1:05:11 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

And sadly, our liberal culture does its best to make sure that the children or grandchildren of these hard working Asian immigrants are just as lazy and entitled as native-born Americans. Within a generation or two, they’ll be demanding a handout for the homeless and grievance-mongering too.


13 posted on 07/25/2014 1:10:08 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Theoria

Seems like some impeachments are in order.


14 posted on 07/25/2014 1:10:53 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Theoria

Why not house them at Gracy Mansion. Lots of room next to the idiot mayors bedroom.


15 posted on 07/25/2014 1:11:09 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Theoria

Asians are the new white...


16 posted on 07/25/2014 1:11:37 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Nervous Tick

yup; and didn’t obama get 75% of the asian/oriental vote in 2012???


17 posted on 07/25/2014 1:21:02 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: 2banana

Only whites are filled guilt. The Han Chinese would slaughter anyone in their way ,if given the opportunity!


18 posted on 07/25/2014 1:23:50 PM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Theoria

One big, happy, multicultural DemoRat family. ‘It takes a Village’... well they got one of their own choosing but now they no likey. Well happy multiculturalism anyway....the Rat Master tyrants have thus decreed.


19 posted on 07/25/2014 1:24:49 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: EinNYC

When I lived in Elmhurst, there was an old Chinese woman who made the most disgusting sound, followed by a huge spit on the sidewalk, even in front of me while walking by.

I wondered what that was about... an insult or what?

One day she did that in the building lobby so I stopped and told her: Excuse me but in America that is disgusting and someone could easily slip on that (on the smooth stone lobby floor) and fall.

She obviously didn’t speak English and had no reply so I told her: Ching-chung-chi-chun-cho-ching, while pointing at her spit.

She then off loaded on me with a long Chinese reply. LoL!

I told her thank you.


20 posted on 07/25/2014 1:48:26 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
艾浒
21 posted on 07/25/2014 2:16:17 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Theoria

Chinese have no racial guilt about black and Hispanic problems. They look out for their own.


22 posted on 07/25/2014 2:24:36 PM PDT by jumpingcholla34 (.)
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To: Theoria
This reminded me of a Clinton era shenanigan I commented on months ago.

This is similar with respect to government (in this case local) forcing something unwanted on a neighborhood.

Otherwise this little exchange shows that the circumstances are a little more complicated.

“Get a job!” and the homeless families responded that their opponents should “go back to China.”

I think that it is important to know that you can defeat government. Peacefully.

HUD proceeded with plans to open a home for various sorts in a Berkeley, Calif. neighborhood. The neighbors objected strenuously and peacefully.

Roberta Achtenberg of Clinton's HUD launched investigations of citizens of Berkeley, Calif. who had opposed HUD proposals with letter-writing, pamphleteering or other forms of peaceful protest. Achtenberg ordered the protesters to turn over diaries, phone messages and other personal papers. She threatened to fine the protesters $50,000.

If memory serves a federal judge cleared the way for bureaucrats and Ms Achtenberg herself, personally, to be held accountable and open to legal action. Again if memory serves Ms Achtenberg hightailed it back to San Francisco leaving her "brilliant" federal career behind.

Court document (Apparently the court document is no longer available July, 2014.)

I did not read much of the document but I do recall reading that the decisions left bureaucrats open to be personally responsible for their actions on the job and they could be sued as individuals. I believe the higher court agrees.

For example the court wrote, "When government officials violate citizens' clearly established First Amendment rights, however, we will not apply the doctrine of qualified immunity to defeat a remedy of damages to which the citizens are entitled under Bivens." I did not research Bivens. para #92

Another FReeper did know about Bivens and posted this reply Very important to know nowadays and from now on until the Constitution is restored.

23 posted on 07/25/2014 3:05:07 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
RE: "Very important to know nowadays and from now on until the Constitution is restored."

We know it's there, of course. The problem is to pressure government to acknowledge and respect the Constitution.

24 posted on 07/25/2014 3:12:22 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Nervous Tick

But note how the NYT just had to mention that “the president of a local Republican club” was there heckling the people.


25 posted on 07/25/2014 3:13:55 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Theoria

“Ching Yeung-Li and her children, Evan, 6, second from left, and Elizabeth, 4, and their cousin, Leonard Li, 3, were part of a group of Elmhurst residents protesting the use of the hotel on Queens Boulevard as a shelter.”

Sure would BE NICE if REPUBLICANS could figure out how to pluck a few votes from these people. Believe it or not, there are a LOT of Asians in this country.

...but our party doesn’t even try.

(good looking babe, though, runs circles around American girls)


26 posted on 07/25/2014 6:53:47 PM PDT by BobL
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