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Itís virtually impossible to be a successful modern president [legacy creation begins]
Washington Post ^ | July 21, 2014 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 07/25/2014 1:40:35 PM PDT by SJackson

Being president is the most powerful job in the world. At which you will almost certainly fail.

Why? For lots of reasons up to and including:

* The decline of the bully pulpit as a persuasion mechanism

* The deep partisanship present not only in Congress but also in the electorate more broadly

* The splintering of the mainstream media/the rise of social media.

Consider the last three presidents -- two Democrats, one Republican -- who have had to deal with those three factors in varying degrees. (Can you imagine what Bill Clinton's presidency would have been like if Twitter existed?) As Ron Brownstein writes in a terrific National Journal piece headlined "Half of America":

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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If Obama couldn't succeed, no one could. The comments on the Washington Post site are interesting.
1 posted on 07/25/2014 1:40:35 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Well, to start with, we need a president with measurable IQ, leadership ability, education, sense of history, and morals.

For Obama, none out five isn’t bad.


2 posted on 07/25/2014 1:42:08 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SJackson

I recall the same argument at the end of the Carter administration. In particular, it was made during the Republican convention that nominated Reagan, in conjunction with speculation he would nominate Gerald Ford as his running mate.


3 posted on 07/25/2014 1:47:45 PM PDT by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning)
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To: SJackson

With the MSM handing out “hall passes” daily, this is proof that being commander in chief is not a job for idiots.

Proof that the Nobel Peace Award is just an award for showing up.


4 posted on 07/25/2014 1:48:24 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: SJackson
The splintering of the mainstream media/the rise of social media.

It must really irk the Left that they can't have a modern version of the notorious Walter Cronkite -- misleading the American public night after night.

5 posted on 07/25/2014 1:49:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: SJackson

Oh, bovine used food. The jerk isn’t even trying.


6 posted on 07/25/2014 1:53:00 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Kerry, as Obama's plenipotentiary, is a paradox - the physical presence of a geopolitical absence")
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To: SJackson

Good, lets reduce the president’s duties down to the constitutional ones. The left will not argue the issue anymore.


7 posted on 07/25/2014 1:53:21 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: SJackson

They missed the most important point.

The office of the President of the United States was created with a limited set of duties and responsibilities. But over time, egotistical presidents have cumulatively usurped far more power than was ever intended for them to have. In short, they want to always be in charge, the bride at every wedding, and the corpse at every funeral. Likewise, they and their office are continually in the limelight, *at their behest*.

This needs to end. It will end with a POTUS who realizes even before he is elected that his office is too powerful and too aggressive. He will have to work with a cooperative congress, and yet many congressmen and senators lust for that office *and* all of its powers as they are. So to reduce these powers will not be easy.

Before he is even nominated, he must be asked the question: “Do you think the office of the president is too powerful, and if you do, how should it be limited?”

If his response is either that the powers of the office are acceptable, or that they need to be enlarged, then he is not fit for office. Most likely, he is so self confident that he honestly believes that he can “control the power and use it wisely.”

No, he can’t. Nobody can. The office MUST be reduced in power.

To worry that it might become an “imperial presidency” is not irrelevant, because it *has* become that. And to thrive, this imperial presidency must end.


8 posted on 07/25/2014 1:54:31 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: SJackson

I remember Bubba’s legacy - a mid-east peace deal....not really working out.

Oh yeah - Jimmah’s legacy was....a mid-east peace deal.


9 posted on 07/25/2014 1:56:14 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: SJackson

Step 1 is admitting you have a failed President. This is progress.


10 posted on 07/25/2014 1:56:58 PM PDT by keat
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To: SJackson; All
Thank you for referencing that article SJackson. Please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Being president is the most powerful job in the world."

Regardless that the president is commander in chief of the US Armed Forces, the above PC statement blatantly ignores the federal government's constitutionally limited powers imo.

In fact, the Founding States made the federal Constitution to limit the federal government's powers to the extent that Obama should arguably be spending much more time on the golf courses than he already does.

And if a president wants a break from the golf course they could always use their golf cart to help the US Mail Service deliver mail in compliance with the Constitution's Clause 7 of Section 8 of Article I, delivering mail one of the federal government's very few domestic responsibilities.

11 posted on 07/25/2014 2:04:12 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: SJackson

If this sad excuse-making helps them on the road to reality, fine. Pretending that Obama is not an empty failure must be a terrible strain.

In a way, I agree with the author’s larger point. Our current excess of democracy actually does make it hard to elect competent presidents, since they reflect and pander to the lower common denominator. People who are truly capable would not want the job, would refuse to market themselves as vapid celebutants, and could never be elected. That leaves us with legacies and egomaniacs.


12 posted on 07/25/2014 2:13:59 PM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: SJackson
[* The decline of the bully pulpit as a persuasion mechanism

* The deep partisanship present not only in Congress but also in the electorate more broadly

* The splintering of the mainstream media/the rise of social media.]

Because oratory is Obama’s primary skill he has overused the bully pulpit, often for childish partisan rants which alienate half the country. The “deep partisanship” was instigated by Obama even before his inauguration and repeated daily during his first two years when he controlled all of Congress. The “splintering of the (left of center) mainstream media” with the advent of the internet is a boon to freedom of information and the First Amendment. It is a mortal threat the elitist establishment press.

13 posted on 07/25/2014 2:25:09 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: SJackson

The Post seems to have gone from ignoring the failures to making excuses.

Could it be a step toward acknowledging reality - that Obama is, without any question of a doubt, the WORST president in the ENTIRE history of the United States?


14 posted on 07/25/2014 2:25:43 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: SJackson

Perhaps the WAPO should stop backing men without chests.

*apologies to CS Lewis


15 posted on 07/25/2014 2:25:45 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: SJackson

It might not be so difficult if the President didn’t view half the country as his enemy.


16 posted on 07/25/2014 2:32:43 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: SJackson

Well I certainly agree that it’s mission impossible for Barack Obama: he proves that daily. He and his minions would be shocked at how fast the country would unite to get things done led by a conservative, smart President who announced that the power of our country is from our people. That’s an alien thought to the current progressives.

TC


17 posted on 07/25/2014 2:41:36 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: SJackson
Being president is the most powerful job in the world. At which you will almost certainly fail.

Well, this one certainly did. But he also brought the least to the job out of 44 people who have held it.
18 posted on 07/25/2014 2:41:52 PM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: keat

At least Jimmy’s peace deal held until Obastard turned Egypt over to the MB


19 posted on 07/25/2014 2:44:54 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: SJackson
Complete WashPost BS.
Fidelity to the Constitution ALWAYS results in a successful presidency --- and the further a POTUS operates extra-constitutionally the more disasterous the presidency as Odumbo demonstrates.
20 posted on 07/25/2014 3:27:03 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: SJackson

Not any modern president, but definitely this one. He is an empty suit who is incapable of leading and lives off the adulation of the media and other liberal sycophants. When things get tough, he does what is comfortable, golf, vacation, and fund raise.


21 posted on 07/25/2014 5:14:46 PM PDT by falcon99
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; SJackson
The office MUST be reduced in power.

I couldn't agree more.

The executive has accumulated despotic powers. Whether they are in the hands of a benevolent or evil man is irrelevant, for their existence equals the de facto end of our republic.

Obama regarded the 2012 election as vindication of his lawlessness, and like any despot he regards his will as law. Despite reliance on elections, he fancies he is not made for the people, but the people for him.

So, what is to be done to restore the constitutional office of the President of the United States?

22 posted on 07/26/2014 1:36:20 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: SJackson

This is exactly what the lefties like Cilizza were saying at the end of the Carter Administration

Then of course along came President Ronald Reagan and they shut up


23 posted on 07/26/2014 4:13:47 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jacquerie

By far the most unconstitutional act of recent presidents has been the Presidential Signing Statement, which usurps both legislative and judicial power. In it, the presidents have written how they *interpret* the law, what parts they intend to enforce, and what parts they intend to ignore.

Next is a trio of offenses: the appointment of Czars, not approved by the senate; recess appointments made when congress is not in recess, and for greater than the duration of the recess; and farcical claims of executive privilege to deny information to congress.

From there, congress and the president must agree to return the vast majority of federal land takings to the states, outside of military and Indian reservations; and to prohibit the use of Presidential Proclamations from doing so in the future.

Then there is the restoration of both the Posse Comitatus Act and the War Powers Act. The former to stop any future use of military forces for domestic police actions; and the second to establish strict ground rules for presidential use of military force around the world.

Then there is the Civil Rights Restoration Act, which establishes strict rules on how the government may impinge on the 1st through the 10th amendments. This covers a huge litany of corruption involving the 17 major Intelligence agencies, and the 100+ federal police agencies, and definitely the non-intelligence and non-police agencies who have assumed both domestic intelligence gathering powers and police powers.

Personally, I would add to this that there is almost no time when a POTUS should leave the US, he has cabinet officers to do that; and the State Of The Union address should be returned to a written form, not a multi-billion dollar dog and pony show that wastes two weeks of the time of the federal government.

Likewise, the POTUS should almost never attend to frivolous domestic nonsense, like attending funerals, throwing out baseballs, visiting disaster areas, etc.

It’s a start.


24 posted on 07/26/2014 6:10:01 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
That's a good list of horribles that must go.

When we were subjects, the king was immune from prosecution, he could do no wrong. However, the king's ministers were subject to the law and had to be careful.

We are fast approaching de facto immunity for not only the president, but for every high ranking political and civil employee.

No republic can long endure this and remain a republic.

25 posted on 07/26/2014 8:25:45 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: SJackson

Especially if you aren’t a real American president. Obama is not. His interests are wholly not American.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 8:28:21 AM PDT by dforest
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bump


27 posted on 07/26/2014 2:26:38 PM PDT by foreverfree
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