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A tunnel terror underneath a bathtub in Gaza exposed
Jerusalem Online ^ | 7/26/2014 | Yael Klein

Posted on 07/26/2014 5:24:41 AM PDT by Tzfat

During the ground offensive IDF soldiers have also exposed a tunnel camouflaged under a bathroom.

Inside a house in the neighborhood of Shuja'iyya in Gaza a tunnel shaft was found under the sink, in between the sewage pipes and the cleaning supplies. According to IDF assessments this tunnel was not originally destined to aid terrorists with infiltration to Israel, but was built for a different destination.

This is a command and control tunnels which connects between different destinations inside Gaza Strip, in order to enable Hamas activists to hide inside it for longer periods of time, without being exposed to attacks and dangers above ground.

(Excerpt) Read more at jerusalemonline.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gaza; hamas; israel; wot
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Gaza = Hamas


1 posted on 07/26/2014 5:24:41 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Hamas = islam

islam = satan


2 posted on 07/26/2014 5:25:50 AM PDT by newfreep (at)
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To: Tzfat

Roaches and Hamas have a lot in common.


3 posted on 07/26/2014 5:25:56 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Too bad Gaza is not the world-wide roach motel. The Israelis could do the world a favor.


4 posted on 07/26/2014 5:27:02 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat
The tunnels extend to the White Hut.

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5 posted on 07/26/2014 5:28:31 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Tzfat
Huh?

Do you mean that those guys running around in dirty nightshirts actually take baths?

6 posted on 07/26/2014 5:31:54 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Tzfat

One should always keep in mind that Israel distinguishes between the residents of GAZA -versus- the Hamas Terrorists and their organization.

Israel makes it VERY CLEAR to the world I that they are at war with Hamas, but they are NOT at war with the residents in GAZA. Always keep in mind what Israel, itself, says about this!

“THE GAZA RESIDENTS ARE NOT OUR ENEMY!”

Don’t let the enemies if Israel “spread the lie” that Israel treats all of Gaza as the enemy. It’s only Hamas that is the enemy!

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Speaking at the conference, Israel’s ambassador to the body, Eviatar Manor told the debate that “Israel will destroy Hamas’ military infrastructure.” He also added that “the Gaza residents are not our enemy. Israel is fully committed to international law.” The ambassador also slammed the UN Human Rights Council saying they had “failed to protect the human rights of Israelis,” Haaretz reports.

http://rt.com/news/174948-un-israel-palestine-talks/


7 posted on 07/26/2014 5:37:15 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

When Israel talks about “Gaza residents are not our enemy” it is talking about the kitten and puppies. The people of Gaza are Hamas. They elected them, they support them. They protect them. Hamas is Gaza, Gaza is Hamas.


8 posted on 07/26/2014 5:43:41 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Years ago I used to blow up anthills using oxygen and acetylene.


9 posted on 07/26/2014 5:45:25 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Tzfat

Not according to the IDF ... :-) ... since they go out of their way to PROTECT the residents of Gaza — while at the very same time, they bomb and kill Hamas operatives and their facilities!

The following is from the IDF itself on their own web page ...

How is the IDF Minimizing Harm to Civilians in Gaza?
http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/07/16/idf-done-minimize-harm-civilians-gaza/

The IDF does everything possible to limit civilian casualties in Gaza. Hamas exploits these efforts by encouraging Palestinian civilians to ignore the IDF’s warnings.

Phone Calls and Text Messages

As part of its efforts to minimize civilian casualties in Gaza, the IDF makes phone calls and sends text messages to civilians residing in buildings designated for attack. In the following video, you can hear a recording of an IDF soldier calling a Gazan to warn him of an impending airstrike in his vicinity.

Leaflets

The Israel Air Force has dropped leaflets over Gaza that warn civilians to avoid being present in the vicinity of Hamas operatives. These leaflets urge civilians to move away from Hamas targets, making clear Israel’s intention to minimize civilian casualties. Since the operation began, Hamas has repeatedly instructed Palestinians to ignore these warnings.

Roof-Knocking

“Roof knocking” is when the IAF targets a building with a loud but non-lethal bomb that warns civilians that they are in the vicinity of a weapons cache or other target. This method is used to allow all residents to leave the area before the IDF targets the site with live ammunition.

The following video demonstrates how Hamas exploits the IDF’s efforts to avoid civilian casualties. On July 9, Palestinians fled a Hamas target after the IAF fired a warning shot. Moments later, people in the surrounding area flocked to the roof of the target, acting as human shields. The IAF called off the strike to avoid civilian casualties.


10 posted on 07/26/2014 5:48:20 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tzfat

And here is something to INFORM YOU about HOW the IDF protects the residents of Gaza, while at the very same time, the IDF targets and kills Hamas operatives and bombs their facilities!

Exclusive Interview With IAF Pilots: How They Limit Casualties
http://www.idfblog.com/blog/2014/07/20/exclusive-interview-iaf-pilots-limit-casualties/

While the IDF goes to extraordinary lengths to avoid civilian casualties, Hamas deliberately puts civilians in the line of fire. The terrorist organization bases command centers, weapons storage facilities and concealed rocket launchers inside civilian neighborhoods, sometimes even inside houses. Lt. Or and Lt. Omer are two pilots in the Israel Air Force whose work reduces harm to civilians in Gaza.

Lt. Or is a 25-year-old soldier with an enormous responsibility. He decides whether to call off an airstrike in Gaza for the sake of preserving human life.

Lt. Or operates drones over Gaza in order to gather intelligence before airstrikes. The drones provide the IDF with a clear picture of the ground in real time. “Before every flight, we have a briefing about what is happening in the Strip,” said Lt. Or. “Then we perform a reconnaissance mission to ensure the intelligence matches the reality on the ground.”

The purpose of this intelligence gathering is to ensure that a strike on a target will not cause harm to civilians. “Before every airstrike, the pilot needs permission from us,” Lt. Or. emphasized. “We [Israel] are the only side in this conflict that attempts to prevent civilians from being harmed.”


11 posted on 07/26/2014 5:52:55 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
How naive. Imagine in WW2, the US saying, "we are at war with the Nazis, we are not at war with the Germans." Or, "we are at war with the Nipponese Empire, we are not at war with the Japanese."

Exactly what did our bombs hit in Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?

Hamas is the elected and supported government of Gaza, not some nefarious terrorist entity that has foisted itself upon the "innocent citizens" of Gaza.

Gaza = Hamas. Obama is a Hamas supporter and cheerleader. UNRWA, the UN, USAID, and the US Dept of State are direct financiers and supporters of Hamas, because they fund the government of Gaza, which is Hamas. Our tax dollars supplied the cement in the tunnels under Gaza. Our tax dollars built the schools and UNRWA warehouses that house rockets that are fired at Jews.
12 posted on 07/26/2014 5:59:19 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

The IDF needs to use these as “Fumigation Ports”

Hook up a high volume blower to this tunnel entrance and pump CS gas through it for 24 hours. Then watch the “rats” scurry out of the buildings on the other end(s) of the tunnel.


13 posted on 07/26/2014 6:04:41 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "Our Emperor may have no clothes, but doesn't he have a wonderful tan" - MSM)
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To: Tzfat

If you’ve got a problem with the official policy of Israel and the IDF itself - then I would suggest you take it up with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. And if you don’t like the results of your conversation with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, I would suggest you GET ANOTHER PRIME MINISTER ... :-) ...

As for me, I FULLY BACK Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his policies and decision, and I fully back the IDF in how they are handling this war against Hamas.

And I fully back the Israeli Ambassador who was speaking before the UN Human Rights Council and was DISPUTING CHARGES against Israel that Israel commits war crimes ... and what he said when he said that Israel was fighting Hamas and NOT the residents of Gaza.

I would suspect if you are going to change ALL THIS in Israel and it’s officials and the government and the IDF, you’re going to have to hire some “mercenaries” from Poland or the Ukraine to replace ALL THESE PEOPLE in Israel that you disagree with ... LOL ...


14 posted on 07/26/2014 6:07:56 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
I was in Jerusalem one time when the zoo was closed. The UNRWA post on the opposite hill was shooting at people on the road near the zoo. What the heck did a UN relief outpost have guns for, and why does Israel even let these terrorists in the country? World politics.

There are so many stories about the UN helping the terrorists in Gaza, and yet Israel plays the world game of acting like the UN is neutral. Just like they play the game of "not being at war with the residents of Gaza." But they know, Gaza is Hamas, and UN "relief organizations" are legal cover for the EU, US, and other entities to fund Hamas in Gaza.
15 posted on 07/26/2014 6:09:42 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Star Traveler

No, I just disagree with Hamas propaganda people like you. LOL (?)


16 posted on 07/26/2014 6:11:01 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

Then the IDF is spreading Hamas propaganda as that information and quote came from the IDF website ... LOL ...

OH ... and also, don’t forget to include that Israeli Ambassador who must have been spreading Hamas propaganda when he was speaking before the UN Human Rights Council.

AND THEN ... of course, don’t leave out Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who was also spreading Hamas propaganda, because he also said that he ordered the IDF to do everything they could to minimize any harm to the residents of Gaza, while attacking the Hamas terrorists at the same time ... :-) ...


17 posted on 07/26/2014 6:16:24 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tzfat
When Israel talks about “Gaza residents are not our enemy” it is talking about the kitten and puppies. The people of Gaza are Hamas. They elected them, they support them. They protect them. Hamas is Gaza, Gaza is Hamas.

Thank you.

I'm wearying of Star Traveler's oft repeated message about how much the Israeli's love the Gaza residents. Yeah, yeah, yeah... we know it.

They have to say it, you know. They are under the gun not just from the Arab world, but the European world, the UN world, the US Democrats world... every leftist scumbag in the world needs to hear the Israeli's kowtow to the principle that the Gaza residents aren't 90% scumbag terrorist sympathizers.

Which they are.

Star Traveler knows it. We all know it.

So yeah, we get it. The IDF respects Gaza civilians. Blah, blah, blah. We get it.

18 posted on 07/26/2014 6:22:56 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Star Traveler

See my previous post. I used your name and didn’t ping you, which I meant to do.


19 posted on 07/26/2014 6:29:14 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: BwanaNdege
Hook up a high volume blower to this tunnel entrance and pump CS gas through it for 24 hours. Then watch the “rats” scurry out of the buildings on the other end(s) of the tunnel.

Thousands of crates of C4 would be a more permanent solution for a year or so.

20 posted on 07/26/2014 6:31:54 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Star Traveler
You are nice and comfy in your mama's basement, while Israelis are fighting for their existence. Israel sits between Western civilization and the 7th Century barbarism of Islam. They deeply understand both worlds. Daniel Greenfield has defined it simply, and brilliantly when he says,

The soldier-civilian distinction has never mattered to the other side. As I’ve already documented, there are numerous Fatwas defining all Israelis as soldiers. And Hamas and its supporters insist on defining all civilians as Jihadists.

Hamas does not recognize the distinction between fighters and civilians either on its side or on the Israeli side. That makes the conventional laws of wars useless.

21 posted on 07/26/2014 6:31:55 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Tzfat

I don’t believe this story. Everyone knows they don’t take baths.


22 posted on 07/26/2014 6:33:07 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tzfat

But Israel also understands world politics. They are playing the middle in their fight for survival.


23 posted on 07/26/2014 6:34:34 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: samtheman

You said ... “So yeah, we get it. The IDF respects Gaza civilians.”

There would be nothing more to say if everyone did get it like you say. But instead, I see many saying things that Israel itself never says or what they want the world to know.

Israel does NOT want the world to think or believe that Israel views “The people of Gaza are Hamas” ... :-) ...

IF ONLY everyone did get it, as you say ...


24 posted on 07/26/2014 6:35:48 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: samtheman

To be absolutely accurate, Israel has an abiding respect for the ability of the European nations to mount loud and long protests that favor the Israeli enemies getting their asses kicked.

So, Israel must create the appearance of protecting the populace while kicking as much infrastructure ass and killing as many nonuniformed combatants as possible. One could argue Star Traveler is an IDF troll putting out the IDF talking points. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt though.

But cynic that I am, I will believe that the IDF is quickly walking a fine line to destroy as much and kill as many as they can before the Euros start whining for an end.


25 posted on 07/26/2014 6:36:55 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Tzfat

“Hamas is Gaza, Gaza is Hamas.”

Wow. Not sure how anyone can be that uneducated.

Then Why does Israel.

Knock on the roof 15 minutes before blowing up the building with much larger ordinace.

Do they warn the People of Gaza where they need to leave before Attacking.

If Israel thought All Gaza was Hamas, They would level Gaza from the air and pour concrete and never put foot soldiers at risk.

But the don’t. They put the IDF at considerable extra risk to make sure they are not killing the Innocent.

No matter how vile or corrupt something is. There is always innocent near that wants to be free.

Yes even Children in Gaza.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 6:37:01 AM PDT by Bailee
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To: Sacajaweau

Muslims remind me of fire ants.

Not good for anything and will swarm and bite at the least provocation.

We need Amdro for muslims.


27 posted on 07/26/2014 6:39:40 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Tzfat

The IDF points this very thing out about Hamas, that they don’t protect the Gaza residents like the IDF does, while in the very same article they point out that the IDF DOES PROTECT the residents of Gaza.

What the IDF is calling attention to is, in so many words, that ...”We do NOT view the residents of Gaza as Hamas!”

That’s from the IDF itself!


28 posted on 07/26/2014 6:40:59 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Bailee
No matter how vile or corrupt something is. There is always innocent near that wants to be free.

How noble. How naive. How ultimately suicidal. BTW, that gunman that just shot your child in front of you, just wants to be free. He just does not understand how. His rage was just a cry for help...
29 posted on 07/26/2014 6:44:09 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: bert

I’m not sure what an “IDF Troll” is ... but I can tell you I have immense respect for the way the IDF is conducting this war and immense respect for the way Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is governing the country along with his policies.

I’m not sure if that makes me an “IDF Troll” ... :-) ...


30 posted on 07/26/2014 6:44:34 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Dusty Road

Propane’s cheaper.


31 posted on 07/26/2014 6:44:54 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: Bailee

Some people seem to be “just itching” to commit war crimes. It is very fortunate that this does not include Israel or the IDF or Prime Minoster Benjamin Netanyahu!


32 posted on 07/26/2014 6:45:57 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

There are no war crimes. If there were all of Gaza would be in prison for firing thousands of deadly rockets at Israel.

The object of war is to kill the enemy. Until the enemy is gone, there is but a continuation of the war.


33 posted on 07/26/2014 6:49:08 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: Star Traveler

To me, your posts are approaching spam. I don’t care. Spam doesn’t bother me. I’m just saying. You are an insufferable broken record.


34 posted on 07/26/2014 6:53:54 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: bert

I agree with killing the enemy, and so does Israel.

The problem here (in the discussion) is that Israel itself, the IDF itself, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu himself - is NOT defining the enemy as “all Gaza”, but is protecting the residents of Gaza as “NOT THE ENEMY”.

Kill all the enemy you want, but at least have the same definition of “the enemy” as Israel MAINTAINS LOUDLY to the world ... :-) ...


35 posted on 07/26/2014 6:55:48 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: samtheman

Was I mistaken in thinking that you posted to me? ... LOL ...


36 posted on 07/26/2014 6:56:53 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Tzfat

Two things I don’t get about this conflict:

1) What did Hamas think was going to happen when they started launching missles into Israel? They sure put a lot of effort into the infrastructure just to have it destroyed. Why bother building tunnels if they know they are just going to be blown up? These people think so differently from anything I am used to.

2) Why is Israel fighing a tactical war? They will just have to fight it agian 5-10 years from now. Seems to me they need to be fighting a strategic war to break the will of Hamas and their supports. There should be a scar left for generations that says, “Do not attack Israel.”


37 posted on 07/26/2014 7:17:43 AM PDT by super7man (Oh why did I post that, now I'll never be able to run for Congress.)
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To: KeyLargo

Actually, I believe they picked the tub to hide the tunnel because they don’t use it.


38 posted on 07/26/2014 7:18:15 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: super7man
fight it again 5-10 years

Yes, that's the history. And Israeli elctions tend to coincide with, usually after, flare ups with Gaza. Very likely the same with this time.

39 posted on 07/26/2014 7:28:24 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Tzfat

The giveaway was that there was a bathtub in Gaza. Anyone who has been to the Arab areas of the world will know that Arabs do not bathe. If they bathed, the stench would not follow them around like a cloud.


40 posted on 07/26/2014 7:43:21 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Pump some serious smoke thru them and see the smoke rising from the houses. Then take them out with F16’s.


41 posted on 07/26/2014 8:00:05 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (The last suit you wear has no pockets!)
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To: BerryDingle
Thousands of crates of C4 would be a more permanent solution for a year or so.

True, but the CS is much easier to distribute AND it reveals the entire network... at least until they start installing airtight bulkheads.

Actually, C4 explodes too fast, about 26,000fps. For tunnels, you need a slower "PUSH" rather than a sharp blast.

ANFO or Composition B work better for tunnels. Fuel/Air works well, too.

Seconds From Disaster - S01E08 - Inferno In Guadalajara (24th Aug 2004)

42 posted on 07/26/2014 8:00:33 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "Our Emperor may have no clothes, but doesn't he have a wonderful tan" - MSM)
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To: Dusty Road

“Years ago I used to blow up anthills using oxygen and acetylene.”

Kill a terrorist leader, then FAE the funeral procession.


43 posted on 07/26/2014 8:14:31 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (GM is dead and Al Queada is alive.)
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To: Dusty Road

Rather than “blow up” why not pump huge amounts of argon gas. It’s heavier that O2, settles in the low lying areas. It absorb the O2. Anyone in a low lying area with argon simply suffocates - quickly...


44 posted on 07/26/2014 10:00:07 AM PDT by Jim Shoe
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To: Tzfat

I just heard on NPR that the only reason there are tunnels is for peaceful trade. They only need the tunnels because the border crossings are closed. NPR and Hamas wouldn’t lie would they?


45 posted on 07/26/2014 10:44:43 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Organic Panic

Nah... NPR is part of the new world order. They are so kind and true.


46 posted on 07/26/2014 10:50:10 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: US_MilitaryRules

“Pump some serious smoke thru them and see the smoke rising from the houses. Then take them out with F16’s.”

I suggested the same thing on another forum.


47 posted on 07/26/2014 11:05:12 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: IMR 4350
Muslims remind me of fire ants. Not good for anything and will swarm and bite at the least provocation.

Good analogy.

48 posted on 07/26/2014 6:47:03 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Tzfat

So you would kill the infants, the children, and everyone in Gaza just because they MIGHT become Hamas one day.

I understand you now.

That is Genocide. Which is a war crime.


49 posted on 07/26/2014 8:03:44 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: Bailee

No, genocide is when you go into a peaceful people and destroy their culture, cl society, and kill them all. That is what Hamas wants to do to Israel. It is their charter. Hamas is Gaza. Gaza is Hamas.


50 posted on 07/27/2014 3:26:23 AM PDT by Tzfat
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