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Our Nation Of Immigrants Forgets Its Past
The Hartford Courant ^ | July 16, 2014 | Professor Frank Harris III

Posted on 07/26/2014 6:22:06 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: liberalh8ter

Ditto for me except that it’s Eastern Poland instead of Naples, Italy.


41 posted on 07/26/2014 7:59:53 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Life’s a b*tch, professor. Go re-read some world history and get a clue, you commie maggot.


42 posted on 07/26/2014 8:00:32 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is a big difference between legal immigration and illegal. Open borders have been tried before, didn’t work out so well for the American Indians or Mexico when the opened up TX to all US immigration.

We actually do remember our past, some of us do anyway.


43 posted on 07/26/2014 8:05:14 AM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun free zones?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

**Our Nation Of Immigrants Forgets Its Past**.

They need to learn English and then take the naturalization test and become legal Americans.


44 posted on 07/26/2014 8:10:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: x1stcav

When my grandmother died, about forty years ago, we had to go through her things. Among her treasures we found the book that she had used to study English when she first arrived in this country a century ago.


45 posted on 07/26/2014 8:13:44 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: reg45

It was a good country back then.


46 posted on 07/26/2014 8:16:36 AM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: logic101.net
"We actually do remember our past, some of us do anyway."

Correct, those whose family came on the Mayflower look at many as johnny come late-leys who ruined the country. And some of then especially detest the catholics from Ireland and southern Europe. Then there are these descendents of Spanish/Mexican who arrived in what is now the US long before all or many white europeans

The notion of legal versus illegal is a relatively new construct.

47 posted on 07/26/2014 8:20:28 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Two points:

1. We never admitted all immigrants-those with criminal records, with contagious diseases were not admitted.

2. We did not have a welfare state to speak of in the early 1900’s. I believe it was Milton Friedman who said free immigration and a welfare state were incompatible.


48 posted on 07/26/2014 8:39:44 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, my ancestors were immigrants, but LEGAL immigrants who stood in line at Ellis Island hoping that they would be found worthy of entering America. They had to pass both a legal inspection and a medical exam before being released to enter the United States and there were strict quotas for admission from individual countries. Even though these requirements were rudimentary, the vast majority of those illegally entering on our southern border would not pass the tests our ancestors had to pass.


49 posted on 07/26/2014 8:54:05 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Utter tripe.

A succinct but accurate evaluation!

The writer has crammed just about every irrelevant concept into his article, while ignoring all the factors that completely refute his argument.

For what actually pertains to immigration questions in the reality of 2014, see An American Immigration Policy.

Or consider this answer to former President Bush's 2006 immigration speech: Reply To President Bush.

I am not anti immigrant. Three of my four grandparents were immigrants. They came here in a very different era, when the population was less than a fourth of the present, and everyone was expected to be personally responsible. The present is a sea change from the late 19th Century, and those changes are very very significant, and very pertinent to all of us who wish to maintain the America of the Founding Fathers. Only those who intend us ill, or who have their heads buried in the sand, will ignore the dangers posed by the sort of drivel, offered by the subject writer.

William Flax

50 posted on 07/26/2014 8:56:07 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My paternal grandparents came over in 1915 from Germany. They followed all the rules, the learned the language, they did everything required of them regarding health and paperwork and fees and waiting their turn.

My mother's side id a bigger mish-mash, but there is some Cherokee lineage in there, as well as legal immigrants from Ireland who were treated pretty badly.

Are we so terrible for simply wanting current immigrants to also follow the rules?

51 posted on 07/26/2014 8:57:46 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

migrants are not immigrants.


52 posted on 07/26/2014 9:09:39 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How many of these “poor oppressed children” has the author of this article taken into his/her home?


53 posted on 07/26/2014 9:10:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: The Great RJ
I have my grandmother's medical check card from when she came across from England.

She was one year old at the time, 1897.It was stamped off every day by the ship's doctor.

Any sign of TB, etc., and she would have remained on the boat for the return trip to England,

54 posted on 07/26/2014 9:11:38 AM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Professor Frank Harris III"

How much you want to bet this is just another silver spoon Lefty screaming doctrine for the masses that he himself would never follow in his own life.

55 posted on 07/26/2014 9:11:50 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

His photo is at the link.


56 posted on 07/26/2014 9:23:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have an idea...go in and occupy those Central American countries, clean them up so that children won’t feel like they have to leave.

Makes a hell of lot more sense than sending our troops halfway around the world to do the bidding of the Saudis.


57 posted on 07/26/2014 9:25:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The key line of the poem written for the Statue of Liberty is NOT merely about the “tired”, “poor” and “hungry”. It ends, for emphasis, with “yearning to be FREE” and last I checked most ILLEGAL immigrants have as much political freedom and human rights IN THEIR DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES as do American citizens and the millions of LEGAL immigrants to America; and therefore the freedoms offered by analogy by the Statue of Liberty are not really talking about MOST illegal migrants.


58 posted on 07/26/2014 11:24:48 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Dilbert San Diego

We aren’t a nation of immigrants, we were founded by Brits rebelling against Britain, and immigration didn’t even kick off until generations after our founding, unfortunately, those immigrants who started coming in the mid 1800s brought their liberalism with them and started voting, and they vote the same today.


59 posted on 07/26/2014 2:06:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Sacajaweau
People came because it was new, vacant and ready for settling.

640 acres and a mule, now it is EBT cards, big difference.

60 posted on 07/26/2014 3:55:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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