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Jonathan and Reginald Carr death sentences overturned
The Wichita Eagle ^ | July 25, 2014 | Amy Renee Leiker

Posted on 07/26/2014 9:02:00 AM PDT by kiryandil

The Kansas Supreme Court on Friday overturned death sentences for Jonathan and Reginald Carr, brothers convicted of murdering five people in one of Wichita’s most notorious crime sprees.

The state’s high court in separate rulings issued Friday unanimously struck down three of each man’s four capital murder convictions in the Dec. 15, 2000, execution-style killings of four people in a snow-covered soccer field. A remaining capital murder conviction for each man was upheld by the court, but the death sentence connected to it was vacated after a 6-1 majority said the district court judge who presided over the brothers’ trial – the late Paul W. Clark – was in error when he refused to hold separate sentencing proceedings for the men.

Justice Nancy Mortiz disagreed with the decision, saying that separate hearings would not have influenced the outcome because witness testimony, the “unusually egregious facts” of the case and evidence against the Carr brothers was so strong...

(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: activistjudges; deathpenalty; jesters; wichitahorror
The US Crimnel Jesters System strikes again!

Do you finally, at long last, understand that your Owners are mocking you daily, peasants?

If peasants want justice in this country, work to spring the perps yourselves.

Then they can just disappear...

1 posted on 07/26/2014 9:02:00 AM PDT by kiryandil
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To: kiryandil
Justice for the Trayvons!
2 posted on 07/26/2014 9:07:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: kiryandil

As we say around here, “There is no law West of the Kaw”


3 posted on 07/26/2014 9:08:00 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: kiryandil

The clown “judges” are going to keep this crap up and it won’t be long before Americans start dealing out “justice” to these animals.


4 posted on 07/26/2014 9:08:06 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (America is not a refugee camp! It is my home!!!)
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To: kiryandil

Aren’t these the same scumbags that made the brother/sister have relations with one another before murdering them?


5 posted on 07/26/2014 9:09:01 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: kiryandil
Consolidating trials for cases with the same factual basis is standard procedure. The judge and jury were free to give different findings and decisions for each defendant.

As long as the brothers continue to be behind bars forever, the liberal hand-wringing to excuse black-on-white hate crimes just wastes more taxpayer money.

6 posted on 07/26/2014 9:09:09 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

9mm worked.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 9:12:05 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: yldstrk

Wouldn’t that be “south of the Kaw”? I’m just saying...


8 posted on 07/26/2014 9:12:46 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: kiryandil
To kill for life, so let us chilling judgment.
9 posted on 07/26/2014 9:13:22 AM PDT by eizverson22
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To: FlingWingFlyer


Newt Gingrich 2012 Speech – Constitutional Removal of Radical-Liberal Federal Judges


10 posted on 07/26/2014 9:13:49 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: kiryandil

This was another horrific crime the media covered up. Here’s another...

http://www.amren.com/news/2007/05/the_knoxville_h/


11 posted on 07/26/2014 9:13:59 AM PDT by Ultima
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To: kiryandil

the mugshots of these two arrogant pukes...made it all too apparent that they were SURE they would never face ole Sparky!!


12 posted on 07/26/2014 9:14:31 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: eizverson22
To kill for life, so let us chilling judgment.

???

Try posting in English next time...

13 posted on 07/26/2014 9:19:38 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: vladimir998

well, I don’t think so, I am in Kansas City


14 posted on 07/26/2014 9:20:23 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Puppage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wichita_Massacre


15 posted on 07/26/2014 9:21:16 AM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

I watched this trial on CourtTV. I’ll never forget it.

These monsters tortured the victims before killing them one by one, in front of each other.

The victims were sodomized so forcefully, they had deep rug burns on their knees.

After slaughtering these kids, they went back to the home of one of the victims and tortured and slaughtered the family dog.

The prosecutor cried when describing the crime.


16 posted on 07/26/2014 9:21:27 AM PDT by bimboeruption (REMEMBER MISSISSIPPI!)
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To: kiryandil
They truly are evil pieces of excrement.

The judges, that is.

Leftists want us all dead - anyone who threatens normal Americans is their ally.

17 posted on 07/26/2014 9:21:54 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: yldstrk

Okay, but Wichita is south of the Kaw. The Kaw runs east-west. Wichita is in the county next to the “s” in “Arkansas” (Arkansas River) on this map:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_River#mediaviewer/File:Kansasrivermap.png

Isn’t that way down south of the Kaw?


18 posted on 07/26/2014 9:24:05 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: kiryandil

I bet Hillary! would have gotten them off in the first place........and then laughed about it.


19 posted on 07/26/2014 9:24:07 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: kiryandil

Jonathan Carr, now 34, and Reginald Carr, 36, were in their 20s when the crimes occurred.

On Dec. 7, The Carr brothers car-jacked Andrew Schreiber, a former Wichita State baseball player and honor student. He was forced at gunpoint to drive around east Wichita, withdrawing money from ATMs before being released unharmed. His captors fired a bullet into his car tire.

On Dec. 11, Ann Walenta, a cellist with the Wichita Symphony, was critically shot during a carjacking attempt. She died of her wounds on Jan. 2, 2001.

The brothers were convicted in 2002 of terrorizing, robbing, sexually assaulting, kidnapping and murdering a group of young people on Dec. 15, 2000, as part of a seven-day crime spree across Wichita.

Jason Befort, 26, Brad Heyka, 27, Aaron Sander, 29, and Heather Muller, 25, were killed in an execution-style shooting after being forced to kneel in a frozen soccer field at 29th Street North and Greenwich.

A fifth victim, a 25-year-old woman who was shot in the back of the head and left for dead, survived and ran naked through the snow to a nearby house for help. Her escape tipped off a manhunt for the killers, who were arrested later that day. She later became a key witness at the brothers’ trial.

Just your average ‘sons of Obama’


20 posted on 07/26/2014 9:25:03 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: vladimir998

It loops around in Kansas City and forms part of the Missouri western border, so basically what the saying means, I heard it from another lawyer older than I am, is there is no law west of the Missouri border


21 posted on 07/26/2014 9:25:45 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

You believed what a lawyer told you? (snicker; just kidding).


22 posted on 07/26/2014 9:27:44 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: kiryandil
The noob seems to have a problem with that. Maybe a bot?
23 posted on 07/26/2014 9:27:48 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Jim from C-Town

The Carrs are long past their expiration date.

5.56mm


24 posted on 07/26/2014 9:28:10 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: kiryandil

From Wikipedia.... “The Carr brothers, 22-year-old Reginald and 20-year-old Jonathan, already had lengthy criminal records when they began their spree.[4] On December 8, 2000, having recently arrived in Wichita, they committed armed robbery against 23-year-old assistant baseball coach, Andrew Schreiber. Three days later, they shot and mortally wounded 55-year-old cellist and librarian, Ann Walenta, as she tried to escape from them in her car; she died three days later.

Their crime spree culminated on December 14, when they invaded a home and subjected five young men and women to robbery, sexual abuse, and murder. The brothers broke into a house chosen nearly at random where Brad Heyka, Heather Muller, Aaron Sander, Jason Befort and his girlfriend, a young woman identified as ‘H.G.’, all in their twenties, were spending the night. They initially scoured the house for valuables. In a much-remarked point of tragedy, H.G. learned of Befort’s intent to propose marriage when the Carrs, by chance, discovered the engagement ring hidden in a can of popcorn. After the search, the Carrs forced their hostages to strip naked, bound and detained them, and subjected them to various forms of sexual humiliation, including rape and oral sex.[4] They also forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other. They then drove the victims to ATMs to empty their bank accounts, before finally taking them to a snowy deserted soccer complex on the outskirts of town and shooting them execution-style in the backs of their heads, leaving them for dead. The Carr brothers then drove Befort’s truck over the bodies.

They returned to the house to ransack it for more valuables, and in the process killed Nikki, H.G.’s muzzled dog. H.G. survived because her metal barrette deflected the bullet, and ran naked for more than a mile in freezing weather to report the attack and seek medical attention.

The Carr brothers, who took few precautions, were captured by the police the next day, and Reginald was identified by Schreiber and the dying Walenta. “.................This was a gruesome crime. I would take to the streets like Jesse does when he doesn’t like a verdict and demand this be over turned if this was my loved one that was killed. God please comfort the families of those slain.......the rest of my feelings I can not type.


25 posted on 07/26/2014 9:28:21 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: kiryandil

our masters can overrule anything they want...they’ll find a reason......they are not the ones suffering at the hands of violent crime....they are carefully secreted behind gated communities and their offspring sprinted off to private schools...


26 posted on 07/26/2014 9:29:24 AM PDT by cherry
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To: vladimir998

lol yeah well what can I say


27 posted on 07/26/2014 9:33:00 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: kiryandil

It is good to fear the sword of the state, for it has its purpose.


28 posted on 07/26/2014 9:33:11 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: kiryandil
KS SC: Oh, they're definitely guilty of murder and rape and torture but we should have had this paper and that paper and this hearing and that hearing and the judge wasn't holding his mouth right...

JUST F-ING EXECUTE THEM ALREADY!

All you need is one high-powered rifle round. Have one stand in front of the other.
29 posted on 07/26/2014 9:36:14 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: All

Well, hell’s coming and it may not be too far away....
What these liberal leftists have wrought will catch up when the American people reach the tipping point....


30 posted on 07/26/2014 9:37:14 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: blueyon
One of the victims was a seminary student, I assume the rest were clearly Christians as well.

Probably has something to do with the Carr brothers treatment of them as well as the legal system's treatment of the Carrs.

31 posted on 07/26/2014 9:39:41 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: kiryandil
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, August 30, 2001
Those five young people in Wichita, Kansas chose "active compliance." . . . When it first occurred, only the Wichita Eagle paid attention to the alleged crimes of the Carr brothers. Our webzine, FrontPageMagazine.com discovered the story about a month later and published it on the Internet, whereupon it rapidly became a cause celebre – but only on the Internet and in conservative papers such as The Washington Times. You will not see Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather or Peter Jennings talking about this crime. . . Focusing on "hate crimes" committed by white people might be good for a journalist’s career. But it gives the public a very inaccurate view of what is actually happening on the street . . . .

One place where the public could get an accurate report on inter-racial crime was the Department of Justice National Crime Victimization Survey. I have extracted and posted several times the stats for 1995 - 2008. But no longer. It appears that the Obama / Holder Dept. of Just Us and Our People refuses to publish the survey data. However the FBI still lists the race of the criminal but there is no mention of the victims' race.

BTW I recall this Wichita crime when it happened. During the trial some whites gathered outside the court house demanding justice. There was an AP report calling those people racists. I emailed the AP employee stating that I hoped that one day she would experience exactly what those victims went through.

32 posted on 07/26/2014 9:44:36 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: kiryandil
From the story; During a news conference held Friday in response to the rulings, Sedgwick County District Attorney Marc Bennett said his office is “committed to upholding the law and ensuring the safety” of Sedgwick County citizens. In response to a question, he told reporters he would seek the death penalty against the brothers a second time.

So Kansas and Sedgwick County will go through a second round of separate trials for these now-convicted murderers to satisfy the Kansas Supreme Court that these brothers deserve the death penalty. Wunderbar!

33 posted on 07/26/2014 9:47:29 AM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: kiryandil

It figures. Next thing you know they will be on the streets again. Next time you will hear about them is when they start doing what they do so well again.


34 posted on 07/26/2014 9:48:37 AM PDT by sport
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

When the time comes there won’t be enough rope for all of these journalists.


35 posted on 07/26/2014 9:49:14 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No pictures on this thread yet - I’m guessing sons of Obama if, that is Obama had sons.


36 posted on 07/26/2014 9:55:27 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: kiryandil

The time has come for the re-incarnation of

Texas John (Horton) Slaughter.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Horton_Slaughter)

The man who cleaned up Tombstone.

A man so fearsome that **Geronimo** - leader of the Bedonkohe Apache - made a wide path around John’s town, because he knew that if ever John got his track, he was as good as dead.

John once famously said -
“I’ve got a guardian angel who protects me,” he would assure well-meaning friends when they sought to caution him about his reckless and daring life-style. “My angel keeps these owl hoots and gunslicks from even denting me. He has told me that I’ll die in bed when I’m good and ready, and not by the hand of some no good outlaw.”

And indeed, he did die in bed at his ranch.

More here
http://www.rense.com/general81/angel.htm


37 posted on 07/26/2014 9:56:53 AM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: kiryandil

Horrific!


38 posted on 07/26/2014 10:17:42 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: blueyon
They also forced the men to engage in sexual acts with the women, and the women with each other.

The justices probably considered this high art protected by the Constitution.

39 posted on 07/26/2014 10:38:40 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: kiryandil

Life without parole. Done.
For a fraction of the cost a death sentence is certain to cost.


40 posted on 07/26/2014 10:41:27 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: kiryandil

Now in the olden days they would be decorating a lamp post in the morning.

People didn’t put up with this back then. Unfortunately they would often get the wrong man.


41 posted on 07/26/2014 11:27:14 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
I remember this case well. They raped the woman in front of her boyfriend. When they were done with her they put her in a garbage bag in a dumpster.

I believe the moral thing to do at this point would be to pardon them both and set them free.

Nature will then be free to take its course. Who knows, they might even wind up in garbage bags in a dumpster? Not that I would encourage such a thing.

42 posted on 07/26/2014 11:38:25 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: kiryandil

>If peasants want justice in this country, work to spring the perps yourselves.

That won’t work because the perps are too well protected in prison.
And it doesn’t get at the “root” of the problem.

But if the people took it upon themselves to “impeach” the judges, that might have some effect.
Their homes can never be so secure without becoming prisons.


43 posted on 07/26/2014 12:00:50 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Good speech... what came of it?... absoutely nothing..

APATHY?... maybe.. All conservative voices of candidates were defeated and a known collaborator with democrats was selected.. (2012)

Change by law was possible 30 years ago... NOT NOW...
Voting mechanisms have been corrupted.. the system is broken..

Working within the system is a diversion to gain time..
For a complete take over by the leftists..
As of 2014.. it’s a done deal..

ONLY BLOOD can change things..


44 posted on 07/26/2014 12:04:22 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I remember this case well. They raped the woman in front of her boyfriend. When they were done with her they put her in a garbage bag in a dumpster.

I remember it because it happened 2 miles from my home. You have the first part right, but when they were done with them they took them out to a nearby soccer field and had them lay down on the snow covered ground and shot them in the backs of the head execution style. The survivor who's initials are H.G., stumbled naked in the snow to a house about a mile away and knocked on the door of someone's house. Had she not done that, the n*ggers would have gotten away with it.
45 posted on 07/26/2014 4:21:53 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Truth is the enemy of our dysfunctional government.)
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To: Old Yeller
You're right. I got it mixed up with the case of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian.

This one was not a hate crime either, of course.

46 posted on 07/26/2014 5:02:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: kiryandil
These tables are from when we had a Department of Justice and they are from the annual survey of tens of thousands of crime victims. Emphasis on survey and statistics because some years show zero white on black sexual attacks crimes.

As best I can figure the Obama / Holder Department of Just Us and Our People no longer permit the tables showing interracial crimes. Here's why.

Criminal Victimization in the United States, [YYYY] Statistical Tables

Table 42: "Percent distribution of single-offender victimizations, by type of crime, race of victim, and perceived race of offender"
"Rape/Sexual assault"

Year of Stats Total
Rape/
Sexual assault
Race of Victims % White
Offenders
% Black
Offenders
%
Not known
& other
1995 255,260 White 78.7 15.3
38,330 Black 7.9 * 92.1
1996 216,710 White 82.2 8.8 *
44,890 Black 13.5 * 80.2 6.3 *
1997 234,800 White 74.8 8.0 *
43,890 Black 0.0 * 93.7 6.3 *
1998 225,330 White 77.2 9.9 *
47,430 Black 7.2 * 68.9 23.9 *
1999 274,020 White 79.4 7.3 *
67,890 Black 0.0 * 79.3 20.7 *
2000 199,360 White 81.5 7.0
33,780 Black 7.0 79.7 13.3
2001 183,160 White 71.3 17.1
29,980 Black 13.4 65.5 21.1
2002 134,140 White 76.0 13.1
59,490 Black 14.2 85.8
2003 131,030 White 57.9 15.5
24,010 Black 0.0 87.9 12.1
2004 139,900 White 65.1 8.3
39,300 Black 0.0 89.8 10.2
2005 111,590 White 44.5 33.6
36,620 Black 0.0 100.0
2006 194,270 White 50.6 16.7
17,920 Black 0.0 43.0 57.0
2007 185,430 White 75.5 7.6
12,780 Black 0.0 100.0
2008 117,640 White 74.9 16.4
46,580 Black 0.0 74.8 25.2

*0.0 Estimate is based on 10 or fewer sample cases
May not sum to 100.0 % due to rounding

1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008

47 posted on 07/26/2014 5:50:24 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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