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7 / 2014To My Christian Friends Who Side With Israel (Hurl Alert)
Tales Of An Arab Girl ^ | July 23, 2014 | Ronia

Posted on 07/26/2014 11:33:33 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople

I would like to apologize in advance if this post comes off as angry. But I’m angry. I’m angry at all this unfair bloodshed and I’m angry at feeling betrayed by fellow Christians. I’m angry at ignorance. I’m angry at propaganda that shoves misconstrued realities down peoples’ throats.

I am aware that most of the Christians I know are westernized, and thus, like myself, have been raised with Zionistic, anti-Islamic viewpoints. But I hope that if nothing else, then through this blog post you would at least consider the other side: there are Christians who love Jesus as much as you do, they’re Palestinian, and they can’t support what Israel is doing.

I’m not an expert on this topic, and I don’t claim to have an expert understanding of it. All I have is personal experience, personal study, and personal conviction. I really appreciate you taking the time to hear me out.

I’d like to jog your memory for a brief moment. Would that be alright?

(Excerpt) Read more at talesofanarabgirl.tumblr.com ...


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To: MuttTheHoople

Friend of God, friend to Israel. Enemy of God, enemy of Israel.

It is as plain and simple as that.


2 posted on 07/26/2014 11:35:45 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Possibly one of the single most ignorant piles of stupidity I have ever read!


3 posted on 07/26/2014 11:37:37 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Dear Ronia,
So you would support people that would shoot rockets at your home. You would support people that would strap on body bombs and blow up your family members. You would not retaliate to stop them because all this is fair bloodshed.

Wow! You need to get out more!

4 posted on 07/26/2014 11:40:36 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MuttTheHoople
there are Christians who love Jesus as much as you do, they’re Palestinian, and they can’t support what Israel is doing.

Supporters of Islam should be cheering the Israelis. The Islamists routinely proclaim they love death so the Israelis are giving them what they love. It's a win-win for both sides.

5 posted on 07/26/2014 11:40:58 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: MuttTheHoople

“I’m angry at all this unfair bloodshed and I’m angry at feeling betrayed by fellow Christians. I’m angry at ignorance. I’m angry at propaganda that shoves misconstrued realities down peoples’ throats.”

I wonder how he feels about abortion?


6 posted on 07/26/2014 11:41:24 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
I’m not an expert on this topic

Obviously...!

If what she say in her blog is true, why haven't the Palestinians thrown Hamas out of Gaza...?

O'Wait I know...

7 posted on 07/26/2014 11:43:18 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MuttTheHoople

phil·is·tine

noun
1.
a person who is hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts, or who has no understanding of them.
“I am a complete philistine when it comes to paintings”
adjective
1.
hostile or indifferent to culture and the arts.
“a philistine government”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Philistines were a PIA back in the time of the Kingdom of Israel


8 posted on 07/26/2014 11:44:10 AM PDT by gasport (President Omoeba needs to evolve a spine)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Just because Isis, al queda, and palestinians wear different looking turbans doesn't mean the same insane mindset isn't going on just beneath them.
9 posted on 07/26/2014 11:46:12 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (false claims of racism--the first refuge of a liberal scoundrel)
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To: MuttTheHoople

(Side note: if Israel is on the defensive, then my understanding of the terms “defense” and “offense” has been terribly, horribly misconceived all this time....In other words, the JOOOOS are kicking our ass?


10 posted on 07/26/2014 11:51:10 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Dear idiot Arab Girl,

God is Zionistic and anti-Islamic. Therefore, so am I.

Best regards,
Dr. Thorne

11 posted on 07/26/2014 11:52:46 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Islam is evil. It is a religion centered on killing people.


12 posted on 07/26/2014 11:55:45 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: MuttTheHoople
"Fellow Christians."

The same way Ubama is a "Christian," right?

13 posted on 07/26/2014 12:02:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: no-to-illegals

Some of the worst Jew-haters in the Middle East are Arabs who are Christian.

Start with Dr. George Habash, founder of PFLP-GC.
Then there’s Dr. Hanan Ashwari, former PLO mouthpiece.

It’s a survival thing, it’s a wannabe thing, it’s even a “Chrislam” thing, but you don’t have to be a Middle Eastern Muslim to hate Israel & the Jews. Not by a long shot.


14 posted on 07/26/2014 12:12:06 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: MuttTheHoople
..there appears to be a compartmentalization of thinking by this young woman (I'm assuming she is not just a face being posted by Hamas as a front)

It is a miserable mind that tries to reconcile two opposing world views as being compatible.

A true Christian born-again experience should, in time, rid one of such pathological thinking--I pray her journey there is a short one...

15 posted on 07/26/2014 12:12:09 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: elcid1970

The Beast is always busy making collections.


16 posted on 07/26/2014 12:14:18 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MuttTheHoople
On the upside, in a year she'll announce that she is a Moslem convert. And the Moslems will make her shut up because she is a woman. They'd be right for the wrong reason. But she would shut up.

Would she then understand the nature of Mohammedans?

17 posted on 07/26/2014 12:15:38 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: MuttTheHoople

Another terrorist propaganda drone whining because the victims are shooting back


18 posted on 07/26/2014 12:17:03 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MuttTheHoople
"Palestinians are not Hamas."

There was an election in 2006. Hamas won. Now they have to live with the consequences.

19 posted on 07/26/2014 12:17:14 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: elcid1970

Because you have to remember that these “Arab Christians” have been “dhimmis” for so long.


20 posted on 07/26/2014 12:19:02 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: MuttTheHoople

“Israel has no right to terrorize and take the lives of hundreds and hundreds of innocent Palestinians under the guise of “defending themselves against Hamas.” That is baloney, it doesn’t make sense, and nobody with a working brain can really fall for that.”

Pure idiocy. Muslims (whether fatah, hamas or some other terrorist groups) have been attacking and killing Israeli civilians for at least 50 YEARS. The specific group doesnt matter, the point is that Israeli attacks have been DEFENSIVE in response to Muslim offensive attacks. Want to stop the killing, all muslims have to do is stop attacking. It’s the Muslims who have violated EVERY peace agreement. Muslims are digging tunnels into Israel not the other way around. Palestinians are the ones who say that ALL Israelis are legitimate targets. This anti Israel stuff is insanity.


21 posted on 07/26/2014 12:23:06 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Biggirl

isis is giving an education to those attempting to remain Christian in northern and western Iraq and northern Syria. This author, poor girl, has given support to people like isis / al quaeda and when her time comes to be one of the counted she will instead have been calculated and convicted in the ways of the Beast. Another lost soul is this authors fate.


22 posted on 07/26/2014 12:24:34 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Biggirl

Got that. It’s just that hearing that some Arabs worship as Christians might make people here think, “Oh, well, at least they’re not fanatical Islamic jihadis!”

Fact is, majority Christian towns like Nazareth & Bethlehem have been mostly depopulated of their non-Muslims.


23 posted on 07/26/2014 12:25:20 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: MuttTheHoople

A lot of “Christians” at one time thought that the Nazis were the bees knees.


24 posted on 07/26/2014 12:27:16 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: elcid1970

A miracle that the Christians shrines in the mentioned places still stand.


25 posted on 07/26/2014 12:27:28 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Overlooked is the fact the American evangelical Christianity has, miraculously, mostly shunned the Jew-hate that has traditionally characterized older forms of Christianity, especially those from the Middle East.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 12:28:09 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: MuttTheHoople

As a “Christian” she should be more outraged that “moderate” Saudi Arabia doesn’t allow Christian churches to be built.


27 posted on 07/26/2014 12:28:41 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Biggirl

ISIS is destroying MOSQUES they don’t like!

Christian shrines in the ISIS `caliphate’ will soon be obliterated just like the Bamayan Buddhas, and for the same reason.

And by the same bloody Mohammedan savages!


28 posted on 07/26/2014 12:31:19 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

Yep, they just destroyed a shrine to the prophet Jonah.


29 posted on 07/26/2014 12:33:18 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: MuttTheHoople

Did not read all of this but noticed she is not as critical of muslims. I support Israel over them any day. Israel had been very patient but enough is enough.


30 posted on 07/26/2014 12:34:06 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: MuttTheHoople
Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" (the term Palestinian is a Latinized version of Philistine, the way Rome mocked the Jews as they drove them out of the Holy Land).

You can find "Peleset" or "Peleshet" and other similar names in Egyptian, Hebrew, and Greek going back centuries before the Roman conquest and expulsion.

31 posted on 07/26/2014 12:40:33 PM PDT by x
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To: Dr. Thorne

God is for all humans on EARTH, be they Christians, Jews and Muslims, Atheists, Agnostics, Buddhists, Hindus, etc.,. All they have to do is open their hearts and souls to God. No human being is without the possibility of redemption. It is there for all mankind.

Warfare is another matter. Autonomous nations have the right to defend against attacks and invasions.

But God loves no nation and no people more than another. We humans are all children of God; some have just not found their way home. Sadly, some might never do so.


32 posted on 07/26/2014 12:42:47 PM PDT by two134711
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To: MuttTheHoople

What is her reaction to Christians being murdered by Moslems all over the world? Silence, I expect.


33 posted on 07/26/2014 12:59:28 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: piytar

No, it is not stupidity — what you’re seeing is the evil taqiyyah face of Islam.

Get used to it.


35 posted on 07/26/2014 1:27:17 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: MuttTheHoople

there are Christians who love Jesus as much as you do, they’re Palestinian, and they can’t support what Israel is doing.

Most Christians would surely support a peoples right to defend themselves. I know I do. Here is what the Palestinians need to do. Stop their terrorist from bombing Israel. That stops so does everything else.


36 posted on 07/26/2014 1:35:09 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: piytar

The muslims have a word for the lying to the infidels in order to lure them into a killing trap.


37 posted on 07/26/2014 1:42:51 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: ozzymandus

What does she care as long as it is not her the Muslims kill? At least not yet. I think her dhimmi opinion is similar to that of someone who suffers from Stockholm Syndrome.


38 posted on 07/26/2014 1:45:36 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: This I Wonder32460

I haven’t read the whole thread or gone to the site, but has she expressed an opinion about ISIS yet?


39 posted on 07/26/2014 1:46:41 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: elcid1970
"Some of the worst Jew-haters in the Middle East are Arabs who are Christian."

Don't forget that worderfully unbiased news reporter Helen Thomas

40 posted on 07/26/2014 1:48:31 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: MamaB

God will bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel.


41 posted on 07/26/2014 2:30:26 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: fella

Called “tayqqia”.


42 posted on 07/26/2014 2:32:26 PM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: MuttTheHoople

I knew this the second that I saw her picture, but then she wrote it right out: “I’m a Palestinian”

One question. Who started this between Gaza and Israel?? Oh, the so called “Palestinians”??? Well WHAT a surprise.
If my neighbor threw a bomb into my yard, he would get his yard destroyed. I don’t play.


43 posted on 07/26/2014 3:11:32 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Ok, the joke's over. Bring back the Constitution.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

“I’m angry at ignorance.”

“I’m not an expert on this topic, and I don’t claim to have an expert understanding of it.”

OK.


44 posted on 07/26/2014 3:48:58 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: MuttTheHoople; hoagy62

Yes this is true, but there are genuine “Palestinian” Christians who DON’T SUPPORT terror, and they also don’t like people being killed by Israel in war (yes some are civilians who happen to be used as ‘shields’ by the terrorists).

I think most of all we know that Israel has a right to defend herself and the civilians against terror attacks, and war sucks. It is a tragedy that anyone has to die. Pray for (even a temporary) peace!


45 posted on 07/26/2014 4:11:28 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: MuttTheHoople
Israel has no right to terrorize and take the lives of hundreds and hundreds of innocent Palestinians under the guise of “defending themselves against Hamas.” That is baloney, it doesn’t make sense, and nobody with a working brain can really fall for that.

Before commenting on other people having "working brains," or not it is worth confirming that you have one yourself.

You have no depth of knowledge, history and the politics of a mass murderer, from where "muslims" come from.

"Palestine," as a country, with rational laws, a flag, national money, embassadors, and a visible means of creating a viable country, not merely talking about it, has never existed, even, as one terrorist put it, did not exist before 1974...

"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism."
PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977

Before ""Palestinians" existed, muslims of the levant, and hundreds of thousands of other muslims imported from surrounding countries, were offered a homeland, and they walked away based on the promise by the world's other muslims that Jews were to be pushed into the sea, and muslims could have all of the homelands created by the United Nations.
They failed.

The "not yet created" Palestinians never had a country to be 'occupied' by the Jews or anyone else. So it is best to excise the word "occupation" from your political vocabulary, since it removes all doubt as to your status as an ignorant moron.

That you can't understand it is to be expected. Some people act inferior simply because they ARE inferior. And totally ignorant.

Good luck with your unicorn, rainbows and flowers approach to appeasing the bloodthirsty murdering savages in the Gaza Strip.
Whatever you do, don't actually go there!

46 posted on 07/26/2014 7:16:14 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Biggirl
A miracle that the Christians shrines in the mentioned places still stand.

A lot of them no longer do.

47 posted on 07/26/2014 7:21:39 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: elcid1970

“Some of the worst Jew-haters in the Middle East are Arabs who are Christian.”

Just 100 years ago, European and American Christians were Jew-haters as well. In fact, their Jew-hatred was so venomous that the Zionist movement was born. By an atheist Jew.

Arab Christians are just 100 years behind their European and American co-religionists.


48 posted on 07/26/2014 7:29:28 PM PDT by sagar
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To: jjotto

“Overlooked is the fact the American evangelical Christianity has, miraculously, mostly shunned the Jew-hate that has traditionally characterized older forms of Christianity, especially those from the Middle East.”

Precisely!


49 posted on 07/26/2014 7:35:10 PM PDT by sagar
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To: x
You can find "Peleset" or "Peleshet" and other similar names in Egyptian, Hebrew, and Greek going back centuries before the Roman conquest and expulsion.

Assuming that's a valid claim (with no documentation), that does not in any way allow its modern redefinition to become the tiny remnant left over by from the perverse execution of the Balfour Declaration.

The muslim State did not exist in 1949, it did not exist in 1949, and it certainly doesn't exist today.

Without the misguided charity of European countries, and the military help of oil-producing muslim countries, Gaza and the West Bank would revert to desert within 5 years! Whether the primitive animals inhabiting them kill off each other or not.

50 posted on 07/26/2014 7:38:29 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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