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Turkey to send another jihad flotilla to Gaza, this time with troops
Jihad Watch ^ | 7/26/2014 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/26/2014 6:19:59 PM PDT by markomalley

The people on the Mavi Marmara flotilla were genocidal Jew-hating jihadis, as you can see in the second video above: they were chanting a jihad war cry recalling Muhammad’s massacre of the Jews of Arabia: “Khaybar, Khaybar, O Jews, the army of Muhammad will return.” See the photos here of their weapons.

And now Turkish troops will be accompanying a new jihad flotilla to Gaza. Will they attack Israeli troops?

“Turkey to send another Freedom Flotilla to Gaza,” Middle East Monitor, July 26, 2014:

The Turkish humanitarian relief organisation (IHH) is currently organising a “Freedom Flotilla II” which will carry humanitarian aid to the besieged Gaza Strip, IHH chairman Bulent Yildrim said Thursday.

In statements to Gulf Online, Yildrim said that his organisation has embarked on legal procedures and paperwork required to obtain a permit for the trip. As soon as a final permit is issued, the IHH along with other international organisations will immediately set up the convoy.

The chairman of IHH, a major organiser of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla I, said that Turkish army troops will accompany the ships to protect it from any potential attack, pointing out that his organisation demanded the government to provide protection for them as Turkish citizens.

Maze Keheil, the president of the European Campaign for Lifting the Siege on Gaza, confirmed his campaign’s intention to take part in the new flotilla, as it did in first one in 2010.



TOPICS: Egypt; Extended News; Israel; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bulentyildrim; egypt; europeanunion; gaza; hamas; iran; israel; jordan; lebanon; mazekeheil; nato; rop; sinai; syria; turkey; wot
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1 posted on 07/26/2014 6:19:59 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

OUTSTANDING post! Thanks. HOORAY Robert Spencer! BTTT!


2 posted on 07/26/2014 6:21:37 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: markomalley

I can’t imagine a NATO member fighting Israel. No telling what that would cause.


3 posted on 07/26/2014 6:22:15 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: markomalley

How do you stop a ship from running a blockade, short of blowing it out of the water?

Obviously these guys want to provoke a violent response, especially with troops on board.


4 posted on 07/26/2014 6:24:28 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: markomalley

May their barbarian flotilla develop mysterious catastrophic leaks over deep water..


5 posted on 07/26/2014 6:24:43 PM PDT by Darksheare (I don't have a copy. one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: markomalley

That which floats, can also sink. Especially if it’s overloaded with islamonazis. Ha! What a stupid idea.


6 posted on 07/26/2014 6:25:26 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: markomalley

The big thing is Turkey is sending troops to Israel. When Israel interdicts them, will they fire? Are they trying to get NATO to enter the war on the side of the Palestinians?


7 posted on 07/26/2014 6:25:26 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: yarddog
I can’t imagine a NATO member fighting Israel. No telling what that would cause.

Especially if a flotilla ship sinks. And the Turks can point the blame to Israel.

Then Turkey would, undoubtedly, invoke Article 5 of the NATO Charter:

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

8 posted on 07/26/2014 6:25:31 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Seems the new jihadis in Turkey’s capitol want to be the first to be vaporized by an Israeli nuke. Works for me, but I was hoping all nukes would be saved for Iran.


9 posted on 07/26/2014 6:26:19 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Just doing laps around the sun and shaking my head that progressives can believe what they do!)
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To: canuck_conservative

Best thing would be a couple of frogmen plant charges just small enough to cause the hull to pop open wide and scuttles it. Then take their damn sweet time dispatching rescue boats.


10 posted on 07/26/2014 6:26:50 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: markomalley

That really worries me. Turkey is probably the only country in the area which is militarily more powerful than Israel.


11 posted on 07/26/2014 6:28:26 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: markomalley

I had a feeling this mook would cause World War III before his term was up.


12 posted on 07/26/2014 6:28:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: markomalley; All

Will Cynthia McKinney be on board?


13 posted on 07/26/2014 6:29:24 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: yarddog

Interesting—this NATO angle.

Use of Turkish armed forces to protect a flotilla interfering with the security of Israel is a provocation, so Israel interdicting the Turkish protected force could not be seen as act of war, but as one of defense by Israel.

Therefore, Turkey cannot then invoke the NATO charter.

Besides after Turkey’s perfidy in 2003 with not allowing our armed forces to invade Iraq from Turkey, they can go to hell.


14 posted on 07/26/2014 6:30:49 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: markomalley
And now Turkish troops will be accompanying a new jihad flotilla to Gaza.

If they do, and if I understand correctly, Turkey will have perpetrated an act of war. Does the NATO Charter apply when a member state is the aggressor?

15 posted on 07/26/2014 6:31:39 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: gura
Will Cynthia McKinney be on board?

We can hope.

16 posted on 07/26/2014 6:32:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: markomalley

If your idea of ‘humanitarian’ is to cut off somebody’s head, then what kind of ‘humanitarian supplies’ are on this ship ?


17 posted on 07/26/2014 6:32:55 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I knew from the beginning that Obama’s “Transformation” would the beginning of World War III, which is what Obama and the left wants..Im actually surprised we have hung on this long, I expected the apocalypse a few years ago under Obama..now its all coming into place


18 posted on 07/26/2014 6:33:03 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama will have his War, all Presidents want their War for history.
His will come by doing nothing and showing weakness.
Americans will Die and suffer for it.
19 posted on 07/26/2014 6:34:58 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Does the NATO Charter apply when a member state is the aggressor?

How is it spun? These troops are protecting innocent, defenseless aid workers who were attacked by an intractable foe?

IMHO, it wouldn't take much of an excuse for Obama to buy off on it. Not like we can count on the GOPe to go against THE WON, can we?

20 posted on 07/26/2014 6:35:24 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Not a day goes by that I don’t gain more respect for the cause of the Crusades.


21 posted on 07/26/2014 6:38:20 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: canuck_conservative

Well, yeah. It’s an act of provocation. Anything to stir up a hornet’s nest. Community organizing.


22 posted on 07/26/2014 6:38:42 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Bogey78O
The big thing is Turkey is sending troops to Israel. When Israel interdicts them, will they fire?

What experience does Turkey have with anti-submarine warfare? They'll need against Israel's Dolphin-class subs.

23 posted on 07/26/2014 6:44:49 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: markomalley

Maybe, maybe not. Some Pubbies won’t tolerate that cr*p - Zero backed down when Cruz called him out on the attempted boycott via FAA prohibitions. But yeah, Zero’d probably jump at the chance to screw Israel further.


24 posted on 07/26/2014 6:44:59 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: gura

Hopefully her and Ayers.


25 posted on 07/26/2014 6:45:08 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Bogey78O
The big thing is Turkey is sending troops to Israel.

What?

26 posted on 07/26/2014 6:47:26 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: yarddog

The problem is that Israel has nuclear weapons.


27 posted on 07/26/2014 6:47:34 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: windsorknot

Hear, hear!


28 posted on 07/26/2014 6:47:40 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: painter

My guess is that Israel would be extremely reluctant to use nuclear weapons but I suspect they would use them rather than be destroyed.

That just might be what has kept countries like Pakistan and Turkey from attacking them.


29 posted on 07/26/2014 6:50:51 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: MtnClimber
Seems the new jihadis in Turkey’s capitol want to be the first to be vaporized by an Israeli nuke

The only time Israel uses a nuke is under the Samson option.

30 posted on 07/26/2014 6:53:11 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: painter

BINGO! GOG And MEGOG!


31 posted on 07/26/2014 6:53:14 PM PDT by crazydad (Obamamohamed is a traitor)
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To: markomalley

Sink ‘em as soon as they enter Israeli waters (yes, that’s off Gaza too).


32 posted on 07/26/2014 6:55:12 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: exit82
Use of Turkish armed forces to protect a flotilla interfering with the security of Israel is a provocation

Here's Turkey's response: How does a humanitarian mission (cue the devastation of Gaza) interfere with Israel's security?

33 posted on 07/26/2014 6:55:39 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: yarddog
"Turkey is probably the only country in the area which is militarily more powerful than Israel. "

Turkey is a moderate power in the region.

But they have NO Power Projection capability and the IAF would annihilate them.

34 posted on 07/26/2014 6:57:40 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: markomalley

35 posted on 07/26/2014 6:58:22 PM PDT by Citizen Zed ("Freedom costs a buck o five" - Gary Johnston, TAWP)
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To: markomalley

I was just thinking. If they really do have humanitarian supplies, Israel might just let them land.

If it turns out to be weapons then the next time would be the “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me” time.


36 posted on 07/26/2014 6:58:49 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: markomalley

I don’t think the Turkish troops will make it to shore —


37 posted on 07/26/2014 6:59:23 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: markomalley

Invading with troops to break a block aid is an act of war, Israel legally has the right to sink those ships.

Stupid move...


38 posted on 07/26/2014 6:59:40 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: yarddog

Turkey does not have nukes except for NATO. Yes, I suspect Zer0 will side for exterminating Isreal. I also expect there are high-level military that will take him out if he does this, better than the attempts against hitler.


39 posted on 07/26/2014 7:05:07 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Just doing laps around the sun and shaking my head that progressives can believe what they do!)
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To: markomalley

The Israelis should simply have a word with the Kurds - in Turkey as well as Iraq.


40 posted on 07/26/2014 7:12:20 PM PDT by bjc (Show me the data!)
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To: Bogey78O

The Israelis were scuttling Muslim armaments ships bound for Palestine way back in 1948. When the ships were refloated & their cargoes dried out, the devious clever Israelis diverted their shipments to Jewish harbors.

If the Turks want to mix it up directly with the IDF, thar’s a gonna be trouble.

Too bad. Turkish troops fought alongside us in the Korean War. They were good allies when Kemal Ataturk was their model.


41 posted on 07/26/2014 7:12:39 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: MtnClimber

Turkey could probably get all the nukes they want from Pakistan tho it might be a bit of trouble getting them transferred.

I think some here are greatly underestimating Turkey’s military capability as well as their fighting spirit.


42 posted on 07/26/2014 7:26:10 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: markomalley

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America


Israel and Gaza are part of Asia...


43 posted on 07/26/2014 7:27:25 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: MtnClimber
Damascus will be the first to be nuked.

Isaiah 17:1New King James Version (NKJV)

Proclamation Against Syria and Israel

17 The burden against Damascus.

“Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, And it will be a ruinous heap.

44 posted on 07/26/2014 7:27:34 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: hanamizu
Israel and Gaza are part of Asia...

Turkey is a NATO member.

45 posted on 07/26/2014 7:29:17 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: elcid1970

Do the Turks remember the Liberty?


46 posted on 07/26/2014 7:30:50 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

“I had a feeling this mook would cause World War III before his term was up.”

Erdogan desperately needs an EXTERNAL war, to distract from his INTERNAL problems. And this wouldn’t be his first try at it.

March 28, 2014
Turkey allegedly plotted ‘false flag’ attack to start a war with Syria

A leaked audio tape has allegedly caught Turkish officials red-handed plotting a false flag attack. They are heard scheming a staged provocation against itself and blaming it on Syria.

This false flag attack would then be used as a precursor for a military invasion and war against Syria. On the tape, the high-ranking officials are heard conspiring to attack the Suleiman Shah Tomb.

The tomb is in Syria but is considered Turkish territory, and it’s guarded by Turkish special forces. On the tape, it’s also discussed that Al-Qaeda terrorists would play the role of patsies.
http://www.examiner.com/article/turkey-allegedly-plotted-false-flag-attack-to-start-a-war-with-syria


47 posted on 07/26/2014 7:32:16 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: elcid1970
Turkish troops fought alongside us in the Korean War. They were good allies when Kemal Ataturk was their model.

Yep. Had it not been for the Turkish Brigade, I might not be here.

48 posted on 07/26/2014 7:32:47 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: markomalley

For Turkey to include soldiers in an effort to break through a legal blockade is effectively an act of war. Thus Israel can and should interdict and disable these vessels at sea, with notification to a neutral power that these ships will require aid in their removal to a neutral port.

Possibly the easiest means to do this would be for Israel to make a small, acoustic torpedo, without explosives other than to propel perhaps 20 pounds of tough nylon cable into the ships propeller, rendering it inoperative and unable to be fixed at sea. Like sticking a ball of yarn into a blender.

But there are many, many ways to disable ships at sea from a distance. If nothing else, put a bunch of .50 caliber armor piercing rounds through their engine.


49 posted on 07/26/2014 7:33:51 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: markomalley

Another reason never to let Turkey into NATO.


50 posted on 07/26/2014 7:45:18 PM PDT by garjog (Obama: bringing joy to the hearts of Terrorists everywhere.)
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